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Cory Dunkle wrote: > <SNIP> You broke several of my well-publicized rules of behavior. First, you did a Dumb Thing in front of a cop. You *should be* old enough and smart enough to know what power through puddles can do. If not, go back and learn it. Whatever you do, don't try justifying it. You screwed up. Second, you *Acted Guilty*. Never pull over voluntarily until the disco lights are on in your mirror and the cop is clearly *staying behind you*. If you'd simply driven on down the street nicely, he might have changed his mind - but you'll never know now. If *you* pull over first, *he's* gotta pull over (to see what's up) unless he's in a hurry to get somewhere else. Third, you tried to argue at the scene. That's neither the time nor the place. If you want to argue, that's what courts are for. Fourth, you started an argument over your 'guilt' when the offer was a *good deal*. The officer was trying to give you a break and you essentially jumped down his throat for it. Really *really* stupid. Now, you want to *fight* the 'easy-way-out' ticket you got because you didn't *really* do that? Well, DUH! You've never seen Eric Idle going "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" on Python? If you *ever* want to get to the point where you get the breaks you think you deserve, you'd better learn to *recognize them*! Had you explained your loss of traction (as you did) and *apologized* for what you did (instad of trying to justify it as OK), you might not have even gotten the seatbelt cite. So basically, you talked yourself out of a break and into trouble. You're beginning to give 'young and stupid' a bad name. -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that) |
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"Motorhead Lawyer" > wrote in message
oups.com... > > Cory Dunkle wrote: > > > <SNIP> > > You broke several of my well-publicized rules of behavior. > > First, you did a Dumb Thing in front of a cop. You *should be* old > enough and smart enough to know what power through puddles can do. If > not, go back and learn it. Whatever you do, don't try justifying it. > You screwed up. Okay, a puddle I can't see I should apparently know is there to not accelerate with so much throttle. Right, that makes a lot of sense. By the time the tire spun I was through the puddle, it chirped and I was going on with getting moving. > Second, you *Acted Guilty*. Never pull over voluntarily until the > disco lights are on in your mirror and the cop is clearly *staying > behind you*. If you'd simply driven on down the street nicely, he > might have changed his mind - but you'll never know now. If *you* pull > over first, *he's* gotta pull over (to see what's up) unless he's in a > hurry to get somewhere else. I'm not stupid. I know when a cop is going to stop me. As the tire chirped I saw the cop slowing for the light and had a feeling he was gonna give me a hard time over it. I checked my mirror and he was turning around so I stopped. Of course if I was driving an econo-box I wouldn't have even bothered checking on waht the cop was doing. He most likely wouldn't have thought anything of it had I been driving an econo-box or if it was soccer-mom in her minivan with the kids. It's called profiling. The cop had a prejudice against me because I was driving a car with a V8, a louder exhaust, and is from the '60s. it doesn't matter that it's a family car with a small block that isn't very fast and takes a lot of coaxing to spin the tires. Anyhow, I'm not gonna go on and pretend to be oblivious to what happened when a cop is obviously going to stop me. I'm going to find a suitable place to stop and wait for him. > Third, you tried to argue at the scene. That's neither the time nor > the place. If you want to argue, that's what courts are for. At the least I am going to explain to the cop what happened, which is what I did. It bothered me when he showed me no respect. > Fourth, you started an argument over your 'guilt' when the offer was a > *good deal*. The officer was trying to give you a break and you > essentially jumped down his throat for it. Really *really* stupid. The cop offered me no "*good deal*". He knew as well as I did that careless driving would be a totally BS ticket that wouldn't stand up in court. I have pictures of the intersection in case it comes to that. If anything I'd be just as well with the careless driving ticket as I highly doubt it would hold up in court. The seatbelt ticekt will probably be a pain in the ass to fight. > Now, you want to *fight* the 'easy-way-out' ticket you got because you > didn't *really* do that? Well, DUH! You've never seen Eric Idle going > "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" on Python? If you *ever* want to get to the > point where you get the breaks you think you deserve, you'd better > learn to *recognize them*! This is not a "break". I did nothing wrong, and nothing unsafe, and I highly doubt anything illegal either. I'd love to see the law that says it's illegal to briefly spin your tire on wet pavement. > Had you explained your loss of traction (as you did) and *apologized* > for what you did (instad of trying to justify it as OK), you might not > have even gotten the seatbelt cite. Not so. The cop didn't want to hear any of it. He was clearly prejudiced and nothing I could have said would change his mind. > So basically, you talked yourself out of a break and into trouble. > You're beginning to give 'young and stupid' a bad name. What it comes down to it that I'm innocent. I did nothing careless or dangerous. Why should I have to jump through hoops and play games when I am innocent? I was polite from the start. I stopped without him having to come barreling after me, pulled into a parking spot so as not to be in a dangerous spot as most morons stop in or have him have to get out in the street, and was polite all the way until the point where he disrespected me after I explained what happened. He gave me the ticket before he gave me a chance to explain what happened. Regardless, what's done is done. The cop had a prejudice and he gave me a ticket for something I didn't even do. So be it. I have a witness, so fighting it should be that much easier. Cory |
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"Motorhead Lawyer" > wrote in message
oups.com... > > Cory Dunkle wrote: > > > <SNIP> > > You broke several of my well-publicized rules of behavior. > > First, you did a Dumb Thing in front of a cop. You *should be* old > enough and smart enough to know what power through puddles can do. If > not, go back and learn it. Whatever you do, don't try justifying it. > You screwed up. Okay, a puddle I can't see I should apparently know is there to not accelerate with so much throttle. Right, that makes a lot of sense. By the time the tire spun I was through the puddle, it chirped and I was going on with getting moving. > Second, you *Acted Guilty*. Never pull over voluntarily until the > disco lights are on in your mirror and the cop is clearly *staying > behind you*. If you'd simply driven on down the street nicely, he > might have changed his mind - but you'll never know now. If *you* pull > over first, *he's* gotta pull over (to see what's up) unless he's in a > hurry to get somewhere else. I'm not stupid. I know when a cop is going to stop me. As the tire chirped I saw the cop slowing for the light and had a feeling he was gonna give me a hard time over it. I checked my mirror and he was turning around so I stopped. Of course if I was driving an econo-box I wouldn't have even bothered checking on waht the cop was doing. He most likely wouldn't have thought anything of it had I been driving an econo-box or if it was soccer-mom in her minivan with the kids. It's called profiling. The cop had a prejudice against me because I was driving a car with a V8, a louder exhaust, and is from the '60s. it doesn't matter that it's a family car with a small block that isn't very fast and takes a lot of coaxing to spin the tires. Anyhow, I'm not gonna go on and pretend to be oblivious to what happened when a cop is obviously going to stop me. I'm going to find a suitable place to stop and wait for him. > Third, you tried to argue at the scene. That's neither the time nor > the place. If you want to argue, that's what courts are for. At the least I am going to explain to the cop what happened, which is what I did. It bothered me when he showed me no respect. > Fourth, you started an argument over your 'guilt' when the offer was a > *good deal*. The officer was trying to give you a break and you > essentially jumped down his throat for it. Really *really* stupid. The cop offered me no "*good deal*". He knew as well as I did that careless driving would be a totally BS ticket that wouldn't stand up in court. I have pictures of the intersection in case it comes to that. If anything I'd be just as well with the careless driving ticket as I highly doubt it would hold up in court. The seatbelt ticekt will probably be a pain in the ass to fight. > Now, you want to *fight* the 'easy-way-out' ticket you got because you > didn't *really* do that? Well, DUH! You've never seen Eric Idle going > "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" on Python? If you *ever* want to get to the > point where you get the breaks you think you deserve, you'd better > learn to *recognize them*! This is not a "break". I did nothing wrong, and nothing unsafe, and I highly doubt anything illegal either. I'd love to see the law that says it's illegal to briefly spin your tire on wet pavement. > Had you explained your loss of traction (as you did) and *apologized* > for what you did (instad of trying to justify it as OK), you might not > have even gotten the seatbelt cite. Not so. The cop didn't want to hear any of it. He was clearly prejudiced and nothing I could have said would change his mind. > So basically, you talked yourself out of a break and into trouble. > You're beginning to give 'young and stupid' a bad name. What it comes down to it that I'm innocent. I did nothing careless or dangerous. Why should I have to jump through hoops and play games when I am innocent? I was polite from the start. I stopped without him having to come barreling after me, pulled into a parking spot so as not to be in a dangerous spot as most morons stop in or have him have to get out in the street, and was polite all the way until the point where he disrespected me after I explained what happened. He gave me the ticket before he gave me a chance to explain what happened. Regardless, what's done is done. The cop had a prejudice and he gave me a ticket for something I didn't even do. So be it. I have a witness, so fighting it should be that much easier. Cory |
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In article >, Cory Dunkle wrote:
> I'm not stupid. I know when a cop is going to stop me. As the tire chirped I > saw the cop slowing for the light and had a feeling he was gonna give me a > hard time over it. I checked my mirror and he was turning around so I > stopped. Still a bad move. The other day I am taking the backside route home down one of the view residental streets that goes anywhere around here. I am doing about 25 mph, 28mph tops, 25mph limit when a cop is waiting at a sign street. Waits way too long. He waits for me to pass then he guns it up to like 35-40 to catch me and get on my ass. Stop sign ahead. I put on my signal and I have to slowly stop cause this cop is looking like he's gonna rear end me. I stop and make my turn, he follows. He gets on my ass again. I make my next turn to get home and he doesn't follow. I am pretty sure he ran my plates, I was pretty sure he was going to stop me for a papers check at least. But maybe he was bright enough to read the address on the computer screen and realize that's exactly where I was headed, at least with the final turn he saw since that's where it goes. > Of course if I was driving an econo-box I wouldn't have even > bothered checking on waht the cop was doing. He most likely wouldn't have > thought anything of it had I been driving an econo-box or if it was > soccer-mom in her minivan with the kids. Cops are pretty dumb about cars fairly often. I've had more than one person relate how a cop hassled them about spinning tires on acceleration when they were driving some crappy escort or other gutless car. Usually there was something that actually could and did do it nearby. |
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In article >, Cory Dunkle wrote:
> I'm not stupid. I know when a cop is going to stop me. As the tire chirped I > saw the cop slowing for the light and had a feeling he was gonna give me a > hard time over it. I checked my mirror and he was turning around so I > stopped. Still a bad move. The other day I am taking the backside route home down one of the view residental streets that goes anywhere around here. I am doing about 25 mph, 28mph tops, 25mph limit when a cop is waiting at a sign street. Waits way too long. He waits for me to pass then he guns it up to like 35-40 to catch me and get on my ass. Stop sign ahead. I put on my signal and I have to slowly stop cause this cop is looking like he's gonna rear end me. I stop and make my turn, he follows. He gets on my ass again. I make my next turn to get home and he doesn't follow. I am pretty sure he ran my plates, I was pretty sure he was going to stop me for a papers check at least. But maybe he was bright enough to read the address on the computer screen and realize that's exactly where I was headed, at least with the final turn he saw since that's where it goes. > Of course if I was driving an econo-box I wouldn't have even > bothered checking on waht the cop was doing. He most likely wouldn't have > thought anything of it had I been driving an econo-box or if it was > soccer-mom in her minivan with the kids. Cops are pretty dumb about cars fairly often. I've had more than one person relate how a cop hassled them about spinning tires on acceleration when they were driving some crappy escort or other gutless car. Usually there was something that actually could and did do it nearby. |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote: > Peter, you have to start learning to trim your quotes. I agree. I've been trying to figure how to incorporate the link for "show quoted text" is. Any suggestions? |
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