SL2 Rotted out & fails NYS Inspection...*Sigh*

Welcome back? You going through with the buy already or soon? You're
looking at a 4 banger vue right? 6 cyl uses a timing belt and is a bit
of a pain and pricey to service anything on. I had a feeling the HHR
wasnt so great. It looked like it wasa rush job to target the PT cruiser
/ H2 market. (The kind of market that didnt really care if it was a good
or pratical vehicle, just that it looked different.) I never even knew
the HHR was coming out. There wasnt any hype that I read about and I
only learned of it months after it came out I think. Lots of hype about
a lot of other GM concepts that never make it, how the HHR made it, I'll
never know... At least the Solstice made it.

As far as small suv's go the Ecotec equiped Vue seems to be the most
pratical and by far the better looking. It wont tow much of a load but
who tows these days to justify these big gas sucking suv's? (I'm not an
environmentalist but living beyond ones needs in that manner is stupid.)
The ecotec with "traction control" should get you where ever you're
going. Not sure what the weather and roads are like where you're at but
AWD is often over kill so pass on that. (think they dropped the awd opt
for 4cyl. though) I dont know if GM's doing their 24hr test drive thing
still but be sure to take one simular to what you want for a test drive
if you havent already so if you have any issues with something you wont
be disappointed later.

Good luck.



In article >,
says...
> Well blah blah,
>
> Not that you talked me into it or anything, but more because that when I
> went to the Chevy dealer to sign for the HHR, they rescinded their offer on
> my trade-in down to $150!! Plus, after arraigning on Sat. to have the actual
> car in question there last night for us to look at, they forgot to bring it
> over from another lot making us wait for 1 hour with a 3 year old. In
> addition, after arguing with the sales guy over the trade in value and what
> he promised, I can overhear the manager calling my car "a piece of sh*t and
> if the you want to give him $586 for it, it can out of your f---in' salary".
> The whole experience and the way we were treated last night turned my
> stomach, so I'm stopping tonight to get my deposit back. Anyway on a whim,
> we stopped by the Saturn dealer on the way home, mostly to see what they
> had. I really didn't like anything they had except the new Vue. I didn't
> realize how much they changed since my parents Vue. (Theirs is the first
> year Vue V6 AWD) My wife like the way that they changed some things and
> rounded off the front end as well as more importantly for her, changed the
> interior, so she's hooked on it. It's got a lot more room in it than the
> HHR and more features for our money. The best thing was in addition to a
> decent price we worked out, they then went out and checked my Saturn.
> They're giving me $1K for trade in plus $500 for being a previous Saturn
> owner. Yea, I know that the no haggle thing prevents them from playing
> with the MSRP number, so this is where they can play with the numbers, but
> there is the psychological impact of making me feel better about my car.
> Anyway, payments work out to be $10 cheaper a month than the HHR, so I get
> more car for my money. Is it my dream car? No, but I really had started out
> looking for a cheap commuter car anyway, so....I guess it looks like I'll be
> hanging around here after all, so welcome me back!
>
> Oh, and my wife likes the special promo around here of "Buy a Saturn, get a
> $500 shopping spree at Target"....Me personally? Give me another $500 off
> the friggin' car, but Christmas is coming anyway, right?
>
> Wish me luck!!
>
> Scott
>
>
> "blah blah" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > > In article >,
> > > "IYM" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, the car has 180K on it, uses 2 quarts of oil per month, and I
> had to
> > > > slip the inspector $20 the last two years to get him to "help" it
> through
> > > > the emissions. The inspection is due in a few weeks again so between

Pretty much looks like we're going through....Yes, looking at the 4 banger,
but a 5 speed...Gets better mileage than the auto (sticker states
24city/30hwy which is identical to the HHR - Not that you get what it says
anyway, but it's a comparative guide)...Don't need the AWD anyway.....Long
Island is as flat as a pancake, and the snow we get here is not a big
deal.....Not worried about towing. I have a '99 F150 Lariat that is my real
baby. My wife went with my Dad to look at it during the day and drive
it again, and she's even more hooked....We'll see what happens...

Thanks again,

Scott

"blah blah" > wrote in message
...
> Welcome back? You going through with the buy already or soon? You're
> looking at a 4 banger vue right? 6 cyl uses a timing belt and is a bit
> of a pain and pricey to service anything on. I had a feeling the HHR
> wasnt so great. It looked like it wasa rush job to target the PT cruiser
> / H2 market. (The kind of market that didnt really care if it was a good
> or pratical vehicle, just that it looked different.) I never even knew
> the HHR was coming out. There wasnt any hype that I read about and I
> only learned of it months after it came out I think. Lots of hype about
> a lot of other GM concepts that never make it, how the HHR made it, I'll
> never know... At least the Solstice made it.
>
> As far as small suv's go the Ecotec equiped Vue seems to be the most
> pratical and by far the better looking. It wont tow much of a load but
> who tows these days to justify these big gas sucking suv's? (I'm not an
> environmentalist but living beyond ones needs in that manner is stupid.)
> The ecotec with "traction control" should get you where ever you're
> going. Not sure what the weather and roads are like where you're at but
> AWD is often over kill so pass on that. (think they dropped the awd opt
> for 4cyl. though) I dont know if GM's doing their 24hr test drive thing
> still but be sure to take one simular to what you want for a test drive
> if you havent already so if you have any issues with something you wont
> be disappointed later.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> In article >,
> says...
> > Well blah blah,
> >
> > Not that you talked me into it or anything, but more because that when I
> > went to the Chevy dealer to sign for the HHR, they rescinded their offer
on
> > my trade-in down to $150!! Plus, after arraigning on Sat. to have the
actual
> > car in question there last night for us to look at, they forgot to bring
it
> > over from another lot making us wait for 1 hour with a 3 year old. In
> > addition, after arguing with the sales guy over the trade in value and
what
> > he promised, I can overhear the manager calling my car "a piece of sh*t
and
> > if the you want to give him $586 for it, it can out of your f---in'
salary".
> > The whole experience and the way we were treated last night turned my
> > stomach, so I'm stopping tonight to get my deposit back. Anyway on a
whim,
> > we stopped by the Saturn dealer on the way home, mostly to see what they
> > had. I really didn't like anything they had except the new Vue. I
didn't
> > realize how much they changed since my parents Vue. (Theirs is the
first
> > year Vue V6 AWD) My wife like the way that they changed some things and
> > rounded off the front end as well as more importantly for her, changed
the
> > interior, so she's hooked on it. It's got a lot more room in it than
the
> > HHR and more features for our money. The best thing was in addition to
a
> > decent price we worked out, they then went out and checked my Saturn.
> > They're giving me $1K for trade in plus $500 for being a previous Saturn
> > owner. Yea, I know that the no haggle thing prevents them from playing
> > with the MSRP number, so this is where they can play with the numbers,
but
> > there is the psychological impact of making me feel better about my car.

> > Anyway, payments work out to be $10 cheaper a month than the HHR, so I
get
> > more car for my money. Is it my dream car? No, but I really had started
out
> > looking for a cheap commuter car anyway, so....I guess it looks like
I'll be
> > hanging around here after all, so welcome me back!
> >
> > Oh, and my wife likes the special promo around here of "Buy a Saturn,
get a
> > $500 shopping spree at Target"....Me personally? Give me another $500
off
> > the friggin' car, but Christmas is coming anyway, right?
> >
> > Wish me luck!!
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > "blah blah" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > > In article >,
> > > > "IYM" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, the car has 180K on it, uses 2 quarts of oil per month, and
I
> > had to
> > > > > slip the inspector $20 the last two years to get him to "help" it
> > through
> > > > > the emissions. The inspection is due in a few weeks again so
between

Phil,

Tried to e-mail you at the attached address, but it was kicked back. If
your still interested in the place, send me a e-mail addy to reply to...

Scott


"Philip Nasadowski" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "IYM" > wrote:
>
> > I'm in Suffolk - You willing to go out to around the Sayville area? If
so
> > and are interested I'll send you the info....
>
> Sure why not? It's not *that* far i do a 75 mile each way field
> call once a week anyway heh.

In article >,
"IYM" > wrote:

> Phil,
>
> Tried to e-mail you at the attached address, but it was kicked back. If
> your still interested in the place, send me a e-mail addy to reply to...


Oh, it's usermail.com, not usermale.com. It confuses skimmers, and
sometimes usenet posters