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Would the Liberty diesel fit a Wrangler?



 
 
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Old July 26th 05, 05:14 AM
Bret Ludwig
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Default Would the Liberty diesel fit a Wrangler?

Is it very hard to put a VM engine from a Liberty in a Wrangler? I
have a three year old Wrangler (TJ) that ate a valve out of warranty
and I want to put a diesel engine in for mileage even though I know it
really makes more economic sense just to go to the junkyard and get
another stock engine. My neighbor says that a non-Jeep diesel would be
a better bet such as a Toyota 1HZ or a Mercedes five cylinder. What has
to be changed out beides the wiring, mounts and transmission?

In my state they do not inspect for emissions on a diesel.

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Old July 26th 05, 05:44 AM
griffin
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I'd say the entire fuel system (tank/lines/injector system/etc).

Hmm, just found this too which might give you some idea:

http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Is it very hard to put a VM engine from a Liberty in a Wrangler? I
> have a three year old Wrangler (TJ) that ate a valve out of warranty
> and I want to put a diesel engine in for mileage even though I know it
> really makes more economic sense just to go to the junkyard and get
> another stock engine. My neighbor says that a non-Jeep diesel would be
> a better bet such as a Toyota 1HZ or a Mercedes five cylinder. What has
> to be changed out beides the wiring, mounts and transmission?
>
> In my state they do not inspect for emissions on a diesel.
>



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Old July 26th 05, 05:50 AM
Bret Ludwig
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According to the book I have the only reason the tank would need
replacement is if it were "terne plated". Is my tank terne plated? I
don't think so. Same with stock lines.

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Old July 26th 05, 06:26 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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I think you should immediately take out your engine out and start
taking measurements.
What state doesn't follow federal laws?
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Is it very hard to put a VM engine from a Liberty in a Wrangler? I
> have a three year old Wrangler (TJ) that ate a valve out of warranty
> and I want to put a diesel engine in for mileage even though I know it
> really makes more economic sense just to go to the junkyard and get
> another stock engine. My neighbor says that a non-Jeep diesel would be
> a better bet such as a Toyota 1HZ or a Mercedes five cylinder. What has
> to be changed out beides the wiring, mounts and transmission?
>
> In my state they do not inspect for emissions on a diesel.

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Old July 26th 05, 04:50 PM
Earle Horton
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In Colorado, if you live outside the Colorado Clean Air Program (which is
itself something of a joke) area, then there is no emission inspection of
non-commercial vehicles at all. I could put a diesel engine, or a coal
burning gas generator for that matter, under the hood and no one would be
the wiser. I imagine that if I were putting out opaque black smoke that
blanketed the entire highway and caused a multiple vehicle accident, I might
get a ticket. Or maybe not.

However, if this vehicle is subject to emissions inspection at all, the
owner is likely to get a nasty surprise when the inspector does not find the
original type engine under the hood. First thing to check is the legality
of the conversion.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> I think you should immediately take out your engine out and start
> taking measurements.
> What state doesn't follow federal laws?
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Is it very hard to put a VM engine from a Liberty in a Wrangler? I
> > have a three year old Wrangler (TJ) that ate a valve out of warranty
> > and I want to put a diesel engine in for mileage even though I know it
> > really makes more economic sense just to go to the junkyard and get
> > another stock engine. My neighbor says that a non-Jeep diesel would be
> > a better bet such as a Toyota 1HZ or a Mercedes five cylinder. What has
> > to be changed out beides the wiring, mounts and transmission?
> >
> > In my state they do not inspect for emissions on a diesel.



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Old July 26th 05, 05:20 PM
Bret Ludwig
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The states do not officially disobey federal laws, they just do not
enforce them and neither does the EPA. It's very common out here to
look under the hood of a Camaro, Corvette or Mustang late model or a
truck that was originally made with full electronic closed loop
systems-'85 to '98 or so-and find a Holley carb, points distributor (or
aftermarket electronic), headers , no AIR, no cat. The Hispanics
especially LOVE to do this. They take them back to Mexico that way and
anyone there can fix them then. You walk past an eighties or nineties
truck and smell no-converter gas smell, you can bet Jose is behind the
chrome plated chain steering wheel before looking.

When they enforce the laws against them they might enforce them
against me too, but that isn't happening in the very near future. Which
you know very well.

If I use the Liberty VM engine it WILL meet any law in the US, in fact
as long as the vehicle has 7500 miles even KKKalifornia will approve
it. It's a used 49 state car you know.

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Old July 26th 05, 07:25 PM
Earle Horton
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Tienes razón, pero ¿por qué hacerse delincuente, sin ganar nada? En este
caso, el motor de Liberty servirá para nada, excepto ponerle rabio a Bill.
Menos poder, más oler, demasiado sonar. No valdrá nada.

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> The states do not officially disobey federal laws, they just do not
> enforce them and neither does the EPA. It's very common out here to
> look under the hood of a Camaro, Corvette or Mustang late model or a
> truck that was originally made with full electronic closed loop
> systems-'85 to '98 or so-and find a Holley carb, points distributor (or
> aftermarket electronic), headers , no AIR, no cat. The Hispanics
> especially LOVE to do this. They take them back to Mexico that way and
> anyone there can fix them then. You walk past an eighties or nineties
> truck and smell no-converter gas smell, you can bet Jose is behind the
> chrome plated chain steering wheel before looking.
>
> When they enforce the laws against them they might enforce them
> against me too, but that isn't happening in the very near future. Which
> you know very well.
>
> If I use the Liberty VM engine it WILL meet any law in the US, in fact
> as long as the vehicle has 7500 miles even KKKalifornia will approve
> it. It's a used 49 state car you know.
>



 




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