Brakes squeal!!!!

Yes. Had squeal about 2-3 yr ago on my then fairly new Mercedes.

And I regularly hear squeals from other cars and commercial vehicles, and
here in UK our product mix is quite different (even if half or more of the
cars are made by GM and Ford).

DAS

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"Steve" > wrote in message
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[...]
> That's just an asinine comment. The braking systems used by Ford, GM, and
> Chrysler ALL come from the same set of vendors, mainly Kelsey-Hayes and
> Bendix. And many foreign car brake systems (especially Japanese) are
> virtually identical, even when built by other vendors. I've heard
> squealing brakes from every major brand of vehicle, its extremely common.
[...]

I know the possibility exists that brakes can squeal when braking, but not
constantly at low speeds and even worse while turning corners.

"Dori A Schmetterling" > wrote in message
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> Yes. Had squeal about 2-3 yr ago on my then fairly new Mercedes.
>
> And I regularly hear squeals from other cars and commercial vehicles, and
> here in UK our product mix is quite different (even if half or more of the
> cars are made by GM and Ford).
>
> DAS
>
> For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
> ---
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
> [...]
>> That's just an asinine comment. The braking systems used by Ford, GM, and
>> Chrysler ALL come from the same set of vendors, mainly Kelsey-Hayes and
>> Bendix. And many foreign car brake systems (especially Japanese) are
>> virtually identical, even when built by other vendors. I've heard
>> squealing brakes from every major brand of vehicle, its extremely common.
> [...]
>
>

Sorry, didn't take in your post properly. Only on braking.

Still, I doubt that your reported squeal would be particular to any brand.

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Dan" > wrote in message
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>I know the possibility exists that brakes can squeal when braking, but not
>constantly at low speeds and even worse while turning corners.
>
> "Dori A Schmetterling" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yes. Had squeal about 2-3 yr ago on my then fairly new Mercedes.
>>
>> And I regularly hear squeals from other cars and commercial vehicles, and
>> here in UK our product mix is quite different (even if half or more of
>> the cars are made by GM and Ford).
>>
>> DAS
>>
>> For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
>> ---
>>
>> "Steve" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> [...]
>>> That's just an asinine comment. The braking systems used by Ford, GM,
>>> and Chrysler ALL come from the same set of vendors, mainly Kelsey-Hayes
>>> and Bendix. And many foreign car brake systems (especially Japanese)
>>> are virtually identical, even when built by other vendors. I've heard
>>> squealing brakes from every major brand of vehicle, its extremely
>>> common.
>> [...]
>>
>>
>
>

>
>>>> That's just an asinine comment. The braking systems used by Ford, GM,
>>>> and Chrysler ALL come from the same set of vendors, mainly Kelsey-Hayes
>>>> and Bendix. And many foreign car brake systems (especially Japanese)
>>>> are virtually identical, even when built by other vendors. I've heard
>>>> squealing brakes from every major brand of vehicle, its extremely
>>>> common.

Yes, today they are all MADE by a few companies, but notice the parts
are not necessarily interchangeable between systems built by one
company for different car manufacturers. There is the little thing
called design. It is controlled not by the brake manufacturer, but by
the auto manufacturer, who specifies how it is to be built.

Also, if you look back just a few years, GM used exclusively Delco
Moraine - which was a wholly owned GM subsidiary.Chrysler used almost
exclusively their own manufacture, with a good mix of Kelsey Hayes
thrown in in later years.AMC used Delco Moraine, Bendix, and
Bendix/Budd hybrids (bendix calipers and Budd rotors)
And any mechanic who lived through the eighties in North America KNOWS
Chrysler's reputation at the time for squealing brakes - whether you
worked for a Chrysler dealer or not.

did you clean and lube the caliper slides and keep the anti rattle clips in
place?
the rubber boot of the caliper is suppose to pull the pad away from the rotor
ever so slightly to help cut squeal

Dan wrote:

> I have a '99' Intrepid. I had the rotors turned last year and they rusted
> and then"peeled" a layer off. Not sure I understand why, I have never had
> this happen before. Anyway, I replaced rotors on the front and installed new
> "anti-squeal" ceramic pads. Well, they squeal at low speeds and when making
> a right turn, the squeal is louder from the left front. I wanted the ceramic
> pads to cut down on the dark colored dust that accumulates on the wheels.
> Anyone have this problem that was able to make the ceramic pads work without
> squeal?
>
> Thanks, Dan

On Fri, 27 May 2005 09:55:22 GMT, "Richard" >
wrote:

I second that with the nice Autozone Asian rotors. I got a pair of
their mid to premium rotors for my 98 Voyager and they were
shrink-wrapped and top quality! Cheap too... less than $25 a piece.

>Autozone sells "nice" Chinese rotors. Next time mail order a set of Brembo's
>from Tire Rack. If it's not the shield, check that they but lube or anti
>noise compound on the back of the pads and on the pins and other contact
>areas.
>
>Richard.
>

On Sat, 28 May 2005, Ken Peterson wrote:

> >Autozone sells "nice" Chinese rotors. Next time mail order a set of
> >Brembo's from Tire Rack.

> I second that with the nice Autozone Asian rotors. I got a pair of their
> mid to premium rotors for my 98 Voyager and they were shrink-wrapped and
> top quality! Cheap too... less than $25 a piece.

1) You missed the sarcasm.

2) It's nice for you that you only spent $25 apiece on rotors, but I will
not entrust my life *OR* yours to Chinese brake parts on my car.

Daniel J. Stern wrote:

> On Sat, 28 May 2005, Ken Peterson wrote:
>
>
>>>Autozone sells "nice" Chinese rotors. Next time mail order a set of
>>>Brembo's from Tire Rack.
>
>
>>I second that with the nice Autozone Asian rotors. I got a pair of their
>>mid to premium rotors for my 98 Voyager and they were shrink-wrapped and
>>top quality! Cheap too... less than $25 a piece.
>
>
> 1) You missed the sarcasm.
>
> 2) It's nice for you that you only spent $25 apiece on rotors, but I will
> not entrust my life *OR* yours to Chinese brake parts on my car.

But there were shrink-wrapped! What more could you ask for? :-)

Matt

All:

It turned out to be the shield rubbing the inside of the rotor. Bent it out
a little and the squeals are gone. did both front shields. As for the other
questions, yes, I did replace the expander (anti rattle) clips, yes, I did
re-lube the caliper pins, yes, I did put anti-squeal grease on them. The
only thing that resolved it was bending out the shield.

Thanks to ALL who gave me ideas to look at.
Dan

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
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> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 May 2005, Ken Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Autozone sells "nice" Chinese rotors. Next time mail order a set of
>>>>Brembo's from Tire Rack.
>>
>>
>>>I second that with the nice Autozone Asian rotors. I got a pair of their
>>>mid to premium rotors for my 98 Voyager and they were shrink-wrapped and
>>>top quality! Cheap too... less than $25 a piece.
>>
>>
>> 1) You missed the sarcasm.
>>
>> 2) It's nice for you that you only spent $25 apiece on rotors, but I will
>> not entrust my life *OR* yours to Chinese brake parts on my car.
>
> But there were shrink-wrapped! What more could you ask for? :-)
>
> Matt

All:

It turned out to be the shield rubbing the inside of the rotor. Bent it out
a little and the squeals are gone. did both front shields. As for the other
questions, yes, I did replace the expander (anti rattle) clips, yes, I did
re-lube the caliper pins, yes, I did put anti-squeal grease on them. The
only thing that resolved it was bending out the shield.

Thanks to ALL who gave me ideas to look at.
Dan

"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> did you clean and lube the caliper slides and keep the anti rattle clips
> in
> place?
> the rubber boot of the caliper is suppose to pull the pad away from the
> rotor
> ever so slightly to help cut squeal
>
> Dan wrote:
>
>> I have a '99' Intrepid. I had the rotors turned last year and they rusted
>> and then"peeled" a layer off. Not sure I understand why, I have never had
>> this happen before. Anyway, I replaced rotors on the front and installed
>> new
>> "anti-squeal" ceramic pads. Well, they squeal at low speeds and when
>> making
>> a right turn, the squeal is louder from the left front. I wanted the
>> ceramic
>> pads to cut down on the dark colored dust that accumulates on the wheels.
>> Anyone have this problem that was able to make the ceramic pads work
>> without
>> squeal?
>>
>> Thanks, Dan
>