Chrysler Crossfire

Hans Mücke wrote:


>
> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".

Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p

Steve wrote:
> Hans Mücke wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
>> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
>> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
>
>
> Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
>

True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog.
Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate
to describe a miss that was pretty close.

I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-)


Matt

Steve wrote:

> Hans Mücke wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
>> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
>> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
>
>
> Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
>

And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled.

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')

Matt Whiting wrote:

> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog.
> Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate
> to describe a miss that was pretty close.
>
> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-)

The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
is a near hit.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

Bill Putney wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
>>
>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-)
>
>
> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
> that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
> A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
> what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
> you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
> is a near hit.

I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Bill Putney wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>
>>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
>>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
>>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
>>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
>>>
>>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss"
>> is that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning
>> should. A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something
>> (though I get what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is
>> used to mean that you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is
>> not a near miss - it is a near hit.
>
>
> I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
> be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
> then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
> little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
> distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.
>
>
> Matt

So 'near death' means...? Death is binary.

The sun so hot I froze to death, Susanna don't you cry... 8^)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

Bill Putney wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>
>> Hans Mücke wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
>>> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
>>> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
>>
>
> And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled.
>

Speak for yourself- I always feel very gruntled after a big BBQ dinner :P

all dealer for dc thats 5 star can work on them and at least one tech in any 5
star has been a sent to school to be crossfire certifed and again i will say no
one wants to work on them all merc. inside and out

Sarge wrote:

> "mic canic" wrote in message: "If you live in the snow belt it's a summer
> car it gets stuck easy works better with the traction control off no spare
> but they give ya a can of fix a flat most dealer don't want to work on them
> takes for ever to get parts great on gas and quick off the line this is my
> personal opinion and I have to work on them to boot."
>
> Its not that all dealers don't won't to work on them. Only certain dealers
> are authorized as service centers for them. My wife works at a dealership.
> They do not sell them becuase they cannot service them. She had to turn
> down a sale of one and send the customer to another dealership to buy one.
> She did get three more sales from the customer. The customer was a casino
> looking ot give cars away for the month.
>
> Sarge

oh that reminds me a new 2 seater is due out in 2 years and yes it will have a
hemi

Steve wrote:

> Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> > Group, what are your opinions of the Chrysler Crossfire? I am researching
> > insights on the Crossfire for a possible purchase. Thanks!
> >
> > norm
> >
> >
>
> My opinion went up now that they're selling them at bargain basement
> prices... when it was a substantial fraction of the cost of a Viper it
> didn't impress me AT ALL.

Bill Putney" > wrote in message
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> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> Bill Putney wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
>>>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
>>>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
>>>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
>>>>
>>>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
>>> that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
>>> A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
>>> what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
>>> you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
>>> is a near hit.
>>
>>
>> I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
>> be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
>> then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
>> little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
>> distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> So 'near death' means...? Death is binary.
>
Life and death are only separated chronologically. So it's a different
dimension than a near miss! The good news is, it's a one-dimensional
problem.