2001 Neon transmission

Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is very
hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few seconds.
I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
pitch wine for a few seconds.
This all just started resently. Any ideas?

Mike
mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

Questions: Have you checked the ATF level when the vehicle is hot per the
owner's manual? How many miles on the vehicle? What is the transmission
service history? Sluggish initial shift into drive/reverse gears,
especially when cold is usually a sign of low fluid level or a partially
clogged filter.

Bob

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
> generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
> It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is very
> hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
> notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few seconds.
> I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
> pitch wine for a few seconds.
> This all just started resently. Any ideas?
>
> Mike
> mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
>
>

Questions: Have you checked the ATF level when the vehicle is hot per the
owner's manual? How many miles on the vehicle? What is the transmission
service history? Sluggish initial shift into drive/reverse gears,
especially when cold is usually a sign of low fluid level or a partially
clogged filter.

Bob

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
> generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
> It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is very
> hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
> notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few seconds.
> I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
> pitch wine for a few seconds.
> This all just started resently. Any ideas?
>
> Mike
> mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
>
>

Car has approx 105,000km on it.
Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
ago)
I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.
I think that my gf may have blowen a seal or something. I mentioned that it
was acting up and then she admited to attempting to put it if first gear
while slowing almost to a stop, which on a automatic, was reverse. (Her car
is a manual transmission)
I have not had a chance to check under the car except for this morning. I
noticed what I think is a light grade oil/fluid on the driver side of the
oil pan, which I am guessing is the transmission housing. I am not sure if
this was acually oil/fluid, or just condinsation/moisture mixed with road
dirt on the underside of the engine. I will fine out more later. I hope she
did not kill the tranny, as I still do not have my other car road ready.
This could make for a cold winter waiting for the bus.
Mike

"Bob Shuman" > wrote in message
...
> Questions: Have you checked the ATF level when the vehicle is hot per the
> owner's manual? How many miles on the vehicle? What is the transmission
> service history? Sluggish initial shift into drive/reverse gears,
> especially when cold is usually a sign of low fluid level or a partially
> clogged filter.
>
> Bob
>
> "Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
> ...
> > Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
> > generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
> > It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is
very
> > hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
> > notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few
seconds.
> > I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
> > pitch wine for a few seconds.
> > This all just started resently. Any ideas?
> >
> > Mike
> > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
> >
> >
>
>

Car has approx 105,000km on it.
Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
ago)
I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.
I think that my gf may have blowen a seal or something. I mentioned that it
was acting up and then she admited to attempting to put it if first gear
while slowing almost to a stop, which on a automatic, was reverse. (Her car
is a manual transmission)
I have not had a chance to check under the car except for this morning. I
noticed what I think is a light grade oil/fluid on the driver side of the
oil pan, which I am guessing is the transmission housing. I am not sure if
this was acually oil/fluid, or just condinsation/moisture mixed with road
dirt on the underside of the engine. I will fine out more later. I hope she
did not kill the tranny, as I still do not have my other car road ready.
This could make for a cold winter waiting for the bus.
Mike

"Bob Shuman" > wrote in message
...
> Questions: Have you checked the ATF level when the vehicle is hot per the
> owner's manual? How many miles on the vehicle? What is the transmission
> service history? Sluggish initial shift into drive/reverse gears,
> especially when cold is usually a sign of low fluid level or a partially
> clogged filter.
>
> Bob
>
> "Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
> ...
> > Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
> > generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
> > It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is
very
> > hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
> > notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few
seconds.
> > I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
> > pitch wine for a few seconds.
> > This all just started resently. Any ideas?
> >
> > Mike
> > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
> >
> >
>
>

You still don't say if the fluid is full or not. The first thing to do is
to check the level following procedure in the owner's manual. (It really is
simple to do). Add the correct ATF (ATF+4 I believe) if it's low to bring
it to the "full hot" line on the dipstick and see how it performs.

If you had it flushed properly 10kMs ago, then you should not need it done
again unless they screwed up and used the wrong fluid or did a power flush
only. Make sure if you do the flush and fill that they actually DROP THE
TRANS PAN since most places won't do this and use a power flush system which
leaves all the residue in the pan, steel filings on the magnet, and the
dirty filter untouched.

Also make sure they use the correct fluid as the incorrect fluid will cause
more problems than you have already and end up costing you a lot in the end.

Bob

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Car has approx 105,000km on it.
> Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
> ago)
> I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.

You still don't say if the fluid is full or not. The first thing to do is
to check the level following procedure in the owner's manual. (It really is
simple to do). Add the correct ATF (ATF+4 I believe) if it's low to bring
it to the "full hot" line on the dipstick and see how it performs.

If you had it flushed properly 10kMs ago, then you should not need it done
again unless they screwed up and used the wrong fluid or did a power flush
only. Make sure if you do the flush and fill that they actually DROP THE
TRANS PAN since most places won't do this and use a power flush system which
leaves all the residue in the pan, steel filings on the magnet, and the
dirty filter untouched.

Also make sure they use the correct fluid as the incorrect fluid will cause
more problems than you have already and end up costing you a lot in the end.

Bob

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Car has approx 105,000km on it.
> Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
> ago)
> I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Car has approx 105,000km on it.
> Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
> ago)
> I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.
> I think that my gf may have blowen a seal or something. I mentioned that
it
> was acting up and then she admited to attempting to put it if first gear
> while slowing almost to a stop, which on a automatic, was reverse. (Her
car
> is a manual transmission)

The worst I've ever seen this do is just cause the car to stall.

> I have not had a chance to check under the car except for this morning. I
> noticed what I think is a light grade oil/fluid on the driver side of the
> oil pan, which I am guessing is the transmission housing. I am not sure if
> this was acually oil/fluid, or just condinsation/moisture mixed with road
> dirt on the underside of the engine. I will fine out more later. I hope
she
> did not kill the tranny, as I still do not have my other car road ready.
> This could make for a cold winter waiting for the bus.

As another poster said, check the fluid level as per manual. Should be:
drive around till car's warmed up, stop on a level surface, change through
all gear positions, allowing a couple seconds in each gear, then leave in
park, with the engine running. Check the dipstick. Should be between second
and third hole where it says "Warm" and "hot" respectively.

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Car has approx 105,000km on it.
> Had all the fluids flushed and filled when I bought it. (approx 95,000km
> ago)
> I am bringing it in to do a flush and fill this weekend.
> I think that my gf may have blowen a seal or something. I mentioned that
it
> was acting up and then she admited to attempting to put it if first gear
> while slowing almost to a stop, which on a automatic, was reverse. (Her
car
> is a manual transmission)

The worst I've ever seen this do is just cause the car to stall.

> I have not had a chance to check under the car except for this morning. I
> noticed what I think is a light grade oil/fluid on the driver side of the
> oil pan, which I am guessing is the transmission housing. I am not sure if
> this was acually oil/fluid, or just condinsation/moisture mixed with road
> dirt on the underside of the engine. I will fine out more later. I hope
she
> did not kill the tranny, as I still do not have my other car road ready.
> This could make for a cold winter waiting for the bus.

As another poster said, check the fluid level as per manual. Should be:
drive around till car's warmed up, stop on a level surface, change through
all gear positions, allowing a couple seconds in each gear, then leave in
park, with the engine running. Check the dipstick. Should be between second
and third hole where it says "Warm" and "hot" respectively.

Well... It is not the fluid level.
Looks like the torque converter and /or pump. Got a look at the magnet and
it had a small pile of shavings.
First quote to have them changed is approx $1500.


"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone had any issues with there automatic transmission in a second
> generation Neon? I am starting to wonder if mine is begining to fail.
> It has been cool the past few mornings and I have noticed that it is very
> hesitent to go into gear. It shifts fine into the possition, however, I
> notice that it acts as if it is in nutral and not gear for a few seconds.
> I have also noticed that once it gets into reverse, that it makes a high
> pitch wine for a few seconds.
> This all just started resently. Any ideas?
>
> Mike
> mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
>
>