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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message .umich.edu... > Apparently having failed to learn the lesson, Chrysler paid Bitsu****ti to > pull prolonged "No, really, we've fixed it this year, this time for > sure" shenanigans on them between 1987 and 1994 with the 3.0 litre V6. > Post-'94 3.0s aren't bad engines. If only that was true. My SO's Caravan is inflicted with the Mitsubishi junk. The rest of the van has been relatively trouble free. The engine even at it best is a weak noisy piece of crap. The last time there was a problem, the dealer's solution was to try to sell her a new engine. Fortunately an independent mechanic was able to repair it by replacing a burned valve. However, even after repairing it, he suggested dumping it immediately. He had nothing good to say about the engine. Apparently my SO has one of the better ones.... Personally there is no way I'll ever be seduced into buying another Chrysler product. As soon as our last Dodge truck goes to the happy hunting ground I'll swear off from Chrysler products forever. Long ago my Father warned me not to buy Chryslers (as his Father warned him when he was young). I was too stupid to believe him and suffered for not trusting his experience. I think one Chrysler product per generation is enough (and I've had two). Chrysler may not have learned their lesson, but I have learned mine. Ed |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Don Stauffer wrote:
> Our new one has an auto :-( We'd have preferred the manual, but we knew > the last van we had, a '94 model, was one of the very last ones with > manual. None in 95 and beyond. Actually, 1995 was the last year in which handshift minivans were available in North America from Chrysler Corp, and then only with the 2.5-litre 4-cylinder engine. > I don't think there are ANY minivans now with manual. There are lots of them...outside North America. Everywhere else in the world, you can have your Chrysler Voyager with a very nice turbodiesel engine and a 5-speed. |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message >> Actually, 1995 was the last year in which handshift minivans were > There are lots of them...outside North America. Everywhere else in the > world, you can have your Chrysler Voyager with a very nice turbodiesel > engine and a 5-speed. Whose turbo-diesel are they using? Ed |
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"C. E. White" > wrote in message news:9FbEe.171282$x96.141280@attbi_s72... > Whose turbo-diesel are they using? > > Ed I dont know the answer, but Mercedes (Daimler) has long technology in diesels and turbo diesels. Outside the USA there is a rather wide availability of decent technology. My son in Norway bought a Ford station wagon at auction for about $5000. (I was surprised to find it was in great shape) New cars there usually cost from $30,000 upward. (My bosses GS430 would have cost $200,000 in taxes) This little Ford has plenty of power, runs well, gets great economy, and is a 4 cylinder diesel. Darn sure doesnt run like what I would expect from a 4 cyl diesel. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, C. E. White wrote:
> > There are lots of them...outside North America. Everywhere else in the > > world, you can have your Chrysler Voyager with a very nice turbodiesel > > engine and a 5-speed. > > Whose turbo-diesel are they using? Steyr-Daimler-Puch |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message .umich.edu... > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, C. E. White wrote: > >> > There are lots of them...outside North America. Everywhere else in the >> > world, you can have your Chrysler Voyager with a very nice turbodiesel >> > engine and a 5-speed. >> >> Whose turbo-diesel are they using? > > Steyr-Daimler-Puch Thanks. Is this the same engine they are using in the Jeep Liberty? Are the vans assembled in the US and shipped to Europe? Ed |
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"Kruse" > wrote in message oups.com... > Chevy II four cylinder engine without any problems. > Oh, wait. I forgot that this was GM. Yep... I'm one of the people who call the Iron Duke engine bad names. For me, it was a POS. The one in our 84 Fiero cracked early on, and GM denied there was any problem. Finally, when it could limp no further, I pulled it out and surely enough there was the characteristic crack. Several trips to the boneyard yielded many more engines of the same year with the same cracked blocks. Finally, I found one that was worn out but no crack, had it bored, and rebuilt it. GM has made ****teaux engines which include some of the 3800's (although many are quite reliable, not all series are), the DOHC affront to humanity, and a few others. By the way, I just bought the CR annual review, and although I openly do not trust CR very much, it is helpful in finding a body style I like, and picking out the engine/transmission options I can get. It looks like, if I am to buy new or slightly used, it is probably going to be a Honda or a Toyota, but CR's ratings had little or nothing to do with it. |
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