'90 Turbo 200 -> REAL hard to start ?

There are a number of threads about things like this on the Audiworld T44 forum:
http://forums.audiworld.com/v8/

A few things to suspect:
- Dirty injectors - Run a bottle of Techron injector cleaner in a tank of gas.
- Failed pressure check valve on the fuel pump - replace pump
- Fuel filter needs replacing

Tony
'91 100q

Courtney Thomas wrote:

> But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
> 5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
> idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
> startup too.
>
> The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
> battery's new.
>
> The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
> great.
>
> It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
>
> What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
>
> Appreciatively,
> Courtney Thomas

Try replacing the temperature switch, it may be giving a false signal to the
ECU


"Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe 5
> secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
> idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
> startup too.
>
> The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the battery's
> new.
>
> The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
> great.
>
> It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
>
> What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
>
> Appreciatively,
> Courtney Thomas
> --
> s/v Mutiny
> Rhodes Bounty II
> lying Oriental, NC
> WDB5619
>

But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
startup too.

The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
battery's new.

The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
great.

It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.

What's wrong and how can it be cured ?

Appreciatively,
Courtney Thomas
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

did the tune up adjust the co level? the co has a major part in starting the
car , i have adjusted the co on a few 200s with quicker starting as a
result, it is most likely adjusting slightly will help, if it doesnt turn
the opposite direction be sure not to adjust it too much and do it with the
car running so you dont have no starting at all,
www.audicd.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
"Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
> 5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
> idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
> startup too.
>
> The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
> battery's new.
>
> The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
> great.
>
> It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
>
> What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
>
> Appreciatively,
> Courtney Thomas
> --
> s/v Mutiny
> Rhodes Bounty II
> lying Oriental, NC
> WDB5619
>

Courtney,
Check out the troubleshooting info at Scott Mockry's web site:
www.sjmautotechnik.com
Try pulling the fault codes and see if anything turns up there.
If the car sits unused for a couple days, does the hard starting go away?
(fuel pressure leakdown likely)
On a different tack ;-) how did Mutiny fare during Frances?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
> 5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
> idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
> startup too.
>
> The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
> battery's new.
>
> The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
> great.
>
> It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
>
> What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
>
> Appreciatively,
> Courtney Thomas
> --
> s/v Mutiny
> Rhodes Bounty II
> lying Oriental, NC
> WDB5619
>

Nedavno news.blueyonder.co.uk pise:

| did the tune up adjust the co level?

How do you do that?


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Steve,

Thanks for asking. Mutiny's fine, being on the hard in coastal NC,
including tarped & strapped down.

As for the Audi, sitting up for a few days doesn't affect it's current
malady. The mechanic says that since it intermittently emits white smoke
on startup it may be a head gasket or crack between cylinder walls,
since the smoke is possibly anti-freeze.

Thanks again for your response.

Cordially,
Courtney



Steve Sears wrote:

> Courtney,
> Check out the troubleshooting info at Scott Mockry's web site:
> www.sjmautotechnik.com
> Try pulling the fault codes and see if anything turns up there.
> If the car sits unused for a couple days, does the hard starting go away?
> (fuel pressure leakdown likely)
> On a different tack ;-) how did Mutiny fare during Frances?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> "Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
>>5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
>>idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
>>startup too.
>>
>>The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
>>battery's new.
>>
>>The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
>>great.
>>
>>It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
>>
>>What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
>>
>>Appreciatively,
>>Courtney Thomas
>>--
>>s/v Mutiny
>>Rhodes Bounty II
>>lying Oriental, NC
>>WDB5619
>>
>>
>
>


--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Courtney,
Good to hear about Mutiny - the news coverages of damages from those storms
seemed to always include footage of piles of boats.
To see if the smoke is antifreeze, a simple test is to get a glass jar, and
hold the open mouth of the jar behind the tailpipe until you get a good
quantity of condensation in the jar. Put the jar in the freezer. If the
liquid in the jar has not frozen by the next day, it's antifreeze.
A compression/leakdown test will show you if there's any leakage in the
cylinders - also, if you hold an inspection mirror over the spark plug holes
of a warm engine, if there's an a/f leak into a cylinder apparently it will
show up as fogging on the mirror.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for asking. Mutiny's fine, being on the hard in coastal NC,
> including tarped & strapped down.
>
> As for the Audi, sitting up for a few days doesn't affect it's current
> malady. The mechanic says that since it intermittently emits white smoke
> on startup it may be a head gasket or crack between cylinder walls,
> since the smoke is possibly anti-freeze.
>
> Thanks again for your response.
>
> Cordially,
> Courtney
>
>
>
> Steve Sears wrote:
>
> > Courtney,
> > Check out the troubleshooting info at Scott Mockry's web site:
> > www.sjmautotechnik.com
> > Try pulling the fault codes and see if anything turns up there.
> > If the car sits unused for a couple days, does the hard starting go
away?
> > (fuel pressure leakdown likely)
> > On a different tack ;-) how did Mutiny fare during Frances?
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> > "Courtney Thomas" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>But once it starts all's well. Even after it finally gets started [maybe
> >>5 secs of crank time] it takes an equal time to finally get up to normal
> >>idle rpms. Sometimes a puff of white smoke is emitted out the exhaust on
> >>startup too.
> >>
> >>The oil pressure, temp and alternator gauges all show OK and the
> >>battery's new.
> >>
> >>The car has about 350K miles on it but other than the hard starting runs
> >>great.
> >>
> >>It's been recently tuned-up with no improvement.
> >>
> >>What's wrong and how can it be cured ?
> >>
> >>Appreciatively,
> >>Courtney Thomas
> >>--
> >>s/v Mutiny
> >>Rhodes Bounty II
> >>lying Oriental, NC
> >>WDB5619
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> s/v Mutiny
> Rhodes Bounty II
> lying Oriental, NC
> WDB5619
>