How much weight to put at the back of truck to make it steady in snow

Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in snowy
region. One person has suggested to put some sand bags or cement bags
in the empty truck bed to make the truck steady during driving in
snow. He has all weather tires. How much weight needs to put in the
back of this truck? Did any member of this NG did this? With thanks in
advance.

arfam4 wrote:

>Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in snowy
>region. One person has suggested to put some sand bags or cement bags
>in the empty truck bed to make the truck steady during driving in
>snow. He has all weather tires. How much weight needs to put in the
>back of this truck? Did any member of this NG did this? With thanks in
>advance.
>
>
Usually a couple of 75# sand bags behind the rear wheels is
enough. Of course, those "All Weather" tires just won't cut it in real
snow. Get some Michelin LTX M/S tires for the rear at least.

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arfam4 wrote:

>Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in snowy
>region. One person has suggested to put some sand bags or cement bags
>in the empty truck bed to make the truck steady during driving in
>snow. He has all weather tires. How much weight needs to put in the
>back of this truck? Did any member of this NG did this? With thanks in
>advance.
>
>
Usually a couple of 75# sand bags behind the rear wheels is
enough. Of course, those "All Weather" tires just won't cut it in real
snow. Get some Michelin LTX M/S tires for the rear at least.

--
..boB
97 H-D FXDWG - Turbocharged!!
01 Dakota Quad Sport, 5.9/Auto/4x4
83 GMC Jimmy (beater)
66 427SC Cobra Replica - Project
66 Mustang coupe - Daily Driver



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> Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in
> snowy region. One person has suggested to put some sand
> bags or cement bags in the empty truck bed to make the truck
> steady during driving in snow. He has all weather tires. How
> much weight needs to put in the back of this truck?

Idealy you would want a 50/50 split in weight front and rear.... That
would probably leave the back end riding low though with all that weight.

> Did any member of this NG did this?

I drive a 2001 Silverado 2500HD 4x4.... Adding 500 pounds to the bed
made no difference. Of course, it's got a torque pumping diesel motor and I
have a heavy foot.... =)

Mike

with my 2001 2500HD 4x4 I noticed improvement with a few hundred pounds of
extra weight.
"Mike Borkhuis" > wrote in message
.. .
> > Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in
> > snowy region. One person has suggested to put some sand
> > bags or cement bags in the empty truck bed to make the truck
> > steady during driving in snow. He has all weather tires. How
> > much weight needs to put in the back of this truck?
>
> Idealy you would want a 50/50 split in weight front and rear.... That
> would probably leave the back end riding low though with all that weight.
>
> > Did any member of this NG did this?
>
> I drive a 2001 Silverado 2500HD 4x4.... Adding 500 pounds to the bed
> made no difference. Of course, it's got a torque pumping diesel motor and
I
> have a heavy foot.... =)
>
> Mike
>
>

> with my 2001 2500HD 4x4 I noticed improvement with a few hundred
> pounds of extra weight.

Like I mentioned, with the power of the Duramax and my heavy foot it
didn't seem to matter.... The truck performs better in 4 wheel drive with
the empty bed.

Mike

> with my 2001 2500HD 4x4 I noticed improvement with a few hundred
> pounds of extra weight.

Like I mentioned, with the power of the Duramax and my heavy foot it
didn't seem to matter.... The truck performs better in 4 wheel drive with
the empty bed.

Mike

Fletcher wrote:

> with my 2001 2500HD 4x4 I noticed improvement with a few hundred pounds of
> extra weight.
> "Mike Borkhuis" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>>Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in
>>>snowy region. One person has suggested to put some sand
>>>bags or cement bags in the empty truck bed to make the truck
>>>steady during driving in snow. He has all weather tires. How
>>>much weight needs to put in the back of this truck?
>>
>> Idealy you would want a 50/50 split in weight front and rear.... That
>>would probably leave the back end riding low though with all that weight.
>>
>>
>>>Did any member of this NG did this?
>>
>> I drive a 2001 Silverado 2500HD 4x4.... Adding 500 pounds to the bed
>>made no difference. Of course, it's got a torque pumping diesel motor and
>
> I
>
>>have a heavy foot.... =)
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Adding weight to the rear of a 4x4 doesn't help much as you are simply
transfering some of the weight of the front drive wheels and adding it
to the rear wheels while increasing the mass that must be accelerated
and controlled. Adding weight to the rear of a 2WD transfers weight off
of the non-driving front wheels.

With a 4x4 truck you are normally in 2wd aka rwd most of the time.
Adding weight to the back improves the traction of a normally front
heavy pickup considerably. This allows you to start up from a light in
snowy conditions without spinning the tires or fishtailling without
needing 4wd and the drivetrain windup and steering issues that brings
when there is patchy snow and dry spots on the road. With my Chev 3500
dually I use 1,000# of concrete blocks which helps tremendously and
still leaves plenty of capacity for cargo when needed. For a F150 srw
500# is probably plenty.

W.P.


Rob Munach wrote:
>
> Fletcher wrote:
>
> > with my 2001 2500HD 4x4 I noticed improvement with a few hundred pounds of
> > extra weight.
> > "Mike Borkhuis" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> >
> >>>Hi! My son has a Ford 4x2 F150 Supercab truck. He lives in
> >>>snowy region. One person has suggested to put some sand
> >>>bags or cement bags in the empty truck bed to make the truck
> >>>steady during driving in snow. He has all weather tires. How
> >>>much weight needs to put in the back of this truck?
> >>
> >> Idealy you would want a 50/50 split in weight front and rear.... That
> >>would probably leave the back end riding low though with all that weight.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Did any member of this NG did this?
> >>
> >> I drive a 2001 Silverado 2500HD 4x4.... Adding 500 pounds to the bed
> >>made no difference. Of course, it's got a torque pumping diesel motor and
> >
> > I
> >
> >>have a heavy foot.... =)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Adding weight to the rear of a 4x4 doesn't help much as you are simply
> transfering some of the weight of the front drive wheels and adding it
> to the rear wheels while increasing the mass that must be accelerated
> and controlled. Adding weight to the rear of a 2WD transfers weight off
> of the non-driving front wheels.

"Pete C." schrieb:

> With a 4x4 truck you are normally in 2wd aka rwd most of the time.
> Adding weight to the back improves the traction of a normally front
> heavy pickup considerably. This allows you to start up from a light in
> snowy conditions without spinning the tires or fishtailling without
> needing 4wd and the drivetrain windup and steering issues that brings
> when there is patchy snow and dry spots on the road. With my Chev 3500
> dually I use 1,000# of concrete blocks which helps tremendously and
> still leaves plenty of capacity for cargo when needed. For a F150 srw
> 500# is probably plenty.
>
> W.P.

Right.
I always carry my heavy wooden toolbox (round 90kg) and some other nice handy
stuff with me in my BJ42. This green gherkin has a very light backend always
wanting to overtake in fast turns. Winter DOES make this issue more critical.

Axel