New Jersey Legislator Wants to Ban Smoking in Your Car

©hri§tÇræm® <> wrote in
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> I smoke. I smoke in my car.

It's not our fault smokers have abused the privelege.
People are tired of putting up with smokers and their foul habit.

And yet smokers still are not getting the message.


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Jim Yanik
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"Dave" > wrote in
ups.com:

>
> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:46:48 -0600, Comrade Yamamoto
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Good deal. More regulations, that cost money to enforce. YOUR money,
>> >at that. Personally, I don't want to pay the government to hold my
>> >hand(as
> if
>> >I had a choice).
>>
>> Unfortunately, you smokers are unable to police yourselves, so Uncle
>> Sam has to step in and do it for you.
>
> So does this mean that because of all those "speed-related deaths"
> that you're a proponent of speed limits also now?
>
> Dave
>
>

"speed-related" gets slapped on crashes regardless of whether it actually
was or not.It's practically meaningless.

All part of the "speed-kills" lobby.

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"David W. Poole, Jr." > wrote in
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> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:58:43 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
> was understood to have stated the following:
>
>>
>>I'm all for this. Driving with a burning stick in your hand endangers
>>everyone else on the highways. And ban radios and TVs and cell phones
>>and food from moving vehicles.
>
> I'm all for banning morons who drive around without a properly
> maintained vehicle.
>
>

Yet most states have dropped periodic inspection requirements.

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Jim Yanik
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John R Cambron *> wrote in
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>
>
> "Scott en Aztlán" wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:58:43 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I'm all for this. Driving with a burning stick in your hand endangers
>> >everyone else on the highways.
>>
>> Not to mention all the litter caused by smokers throwing their butts
>> out the window of their car, or emptying their ashtrays onto the
>> ground next to their parking space...
>
> You can thank the automobile manufactures for that. A lot of
> cars now don't come equipped with ash trays in them anymore.
>

No,you can't pass the blame like that.
Most smokers flick their butts out the window even though they have an
ashtray,and that's still NO excuse for emptying their ashtray on the ground
anywhere.

And no excuse for smokers to not provide their own ashtray in cars that
don't have one,nor any excuse for smokers to drop butts on the ground when
walking.

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Jim Yanik
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at
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"David W. Poole, Jr." > wrote in
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> On 10 Jul 2005 18:14:30 -0700, "Dave" > was
> understood to have stated the following:
>
>>
>>A 20 oz water bottle, with some water, is a better place for a burning
>>cigarette than a plastic bag. Same idea though, just less chance of
>>burning up my car.
>
> I have a very cool plastic bag type thing that's small enough to fit
> in your pocket unobtrusively. It's lined with some type of foil so
> that if you were to put a lit butt in it, it would go out. It also has
> mechanism in it that allows it to seal tightly, confining the odor to
> the bag. Though I always field-strip my cigarettes, when I'm at a
> non-smoker's house I'll put the butts in the bag as opposed to leaving
> the butts on my pocket to cut down on the odor. When I get back in the
> car I dump the bag's content into the ashtray or into an outside trash
> receptacle.
>
>
>

You are the rare exception,rather than the norm.

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Jim Yanik
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at
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"JohnH" > wrote in
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>
>>> A 20 oz water bottle, with some water, is a better place for a
>>> burning cigarette than a plastic bag. Same idea though, just less
>>> chance of burning up my car.
>>
>> I have a very cool plastic bag type thing that's small enough to fit
>> in your pocket unobtrusively. It's lined with some type of foil so
>> that if you were to put a lit butt in it, it would go out. It also
>> has mechanism in it that allows it to seal tightly, confining the
>> odor to the bag. Though I always field-strip my cigarettes, when I'm
>> at a non-smoker's house I'll put the butts in the bag as opposed to
>> leaving the butts on my pocket to cut down on the odor. When I get
>> back in the car I dump the bag's content into the ashtray or into an
>> outside trash receptacle.
>
> It's good you're considerate to go to this trouble, but maybe you
> should step back and *really* read what you just posted.
>
> I quit 15 years ago from smoking for 15 years before that. It's
> possible, and the rewards are tremendous - I made cigarettes MY bitch!
> I don't even think about them now.
>
>
>

Many employers will not hire a smoker these days,health insurance costs
more for them,and the public is enacting more and more laws restricting
smoking.

I guess some things are going allright.

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Jim Yanik
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at
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 20:40:50 GMT, "Skip Elliott Bowman"
> > wrote:
>
>>>>You should take up criminal coddling as a career.
>>>
>>> Name someone who gets paid a living wage to coddle criminals.
>>
>>Alberto Gonzalez coddles criminals every day.
>
> How so?

People using medicinal marijuana are under threat of federal prosecution,
while corporate gross malfeasance and embezzlement barely get a slap on the
wrist. That's one example.

I'd also like to know why calls for a special prosecutor or even an
investigation of the "irrational exuberance toward war in Iraq" have been
ignored. The GOP was willing to spend $52 million to expose Clinton's
affair with an intern, so why not a war that has cost thousands of lives and
billions of dollars? That's another example.

"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:04:34 -0400, "David W. Poole, Jr."
> > wrote:
>
>>On 10 Jul 2005 18:18:21 GMT, Jim Yanik .> was
>>understood to have stated the following:
>>
>>>Except that the vast majority of smokers litter.
>>
>>Got proof?
>>
>>>(there's FAR too many cig butts around for it to be a small minority)
>>
>>Very few of the smokers I know litter.
>
> EVERY smoker I know, and quite a few that I don't know but have had
> the opportunity to observe, litters.

You know me (or not, as you choose) and I have never tossed a single butt.
And I smoke (trying to quit).

"Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
.. .
> "David W. Poole, Jr." > wrote in
> :
>
>> On 10 Jul 2005 18:18:21 GMT, Jim Yanik .> was
>> understood to have stated the following:
>>
>>>Except that the vast majority of smokers litter.
>>
>> Got proof?
>>
>>>(there's FAR too many cig butts around for it to be a small minority)
>
> Did you not read the above?
>>
>> Very few of the smokers I know litter.
>
> But you don't KNOW anywhere close to a majority of smokers.
> Not even one percent of them.
>
>>
>>>It's a reflex with smokers to flick away or drop the cig butt when
>>>finished.
>>
>> Just like it's a reflex for everyone who eats from a fast food
>> restaurant to throw their packaging out the car window.
>
> Smokers will even smoke where there are no ashtrays or butt
> receptacles,where there are signs that smoking is prohibited,and the
> MAJORITY toss their butts,as evidenced by the tremendous number of butts
> that are found everywhere,far too many to be from a few "bad" smokers,and
> by many people's observation of them doing it.

Cite your source of this assertion, please. The bit about the majority of
smokers tossing their butts, that is.

Cite.

Jim Yanik wrote:
> =A9hri=A7t=C7r=E6m=AE <> wrote in
> :
>
> > I smoke. I smoke in my car.
>
> It's not our fault smokers have abused the privelege.
> People are tired of putting up with smokers and their foul habit.
>
> And yet smokers still are not getting the message.

The "privilege"?? What ever happened to freedom?