XP, SBLive, TSW

XP doesn't actually support game-port anymore, what 'limited' support that
is left in XP, is as stated -> very very limited, even the Microsoft wheels
& joysticks that MS branded don't work right, or fully supported anymore (on
the wheels it is impossible if not just near impossible to get separate
pedals/axis and or the Force Feedback to work under XP...)

But, as far as TSW goes, your best solution is to get the (1 or 2 part
solution) upgrade/fix directly from Thomaswheel, or atleast get the same
exact components elsewhere... Their (1) gameport to USB converter is the
best one out there (they do not MFG it) and (2) then many wheels have to
have the POTs (potentiometers that the wheel and pedals use to detect/relay
movement or input) changed to ones that are compatable with the signals that
the USB device expects. as far as I have read on the boards over the last
couple years, you can even send in the wheels and they will do the "fixes"
for a small fee, IIRC?


Kendt Eklund enlightened us with:
> PAM-OFF (EldredP) wrote in message
> >...
>> Well, I built a new computer(thanks to a generous fellow sim racer).
>> Since the mobo doesn't have any ISA slots, I can't use my PDPL
>> gamecard. The USB wheel I have doesn't have split-axis, so that
>> makes it difficult to drive. I tried using my SBLive's gameport to
>> run my TSW wheel. Couldn't find(or create) a config that worked
>> right. Either the config didn't show both pedals, or the calibrate
>> screen kept jumping around. This is a winXP system, and I'm sure
>> I'm just not used to XP yet. Any assistance would be appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eldred
>> --
>
> I had the same problem upgrading a friend's computer to XP because he
> had a TSW wheel. Its been a little while, but IIRC particular models
> of the TSW do not work well under XP with the gameport. I think the 2
> options are an upgrade from TSW, or a gameport-USB converter.
>
> HTH,
> Kendt

Bottom line is gameport support+XP=good luck...

Gameport support is severely limited in WinXP.

I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?


"EldredP" -OFF> wrote in message
...
> Well, I built a new computer(thanks to a generous fellow sim racer).
Since the
> mobo doesn't have any ISA slots, I can't use my PDPL gamecard. The USB
wheel I
> have doesn't have split-axis, so that makes it difficult to drive. I
tried
> using my SBLive's gameport to run my TSW wheel. Couldn't find(or create)
a
> config that worked right. Either the config didn't show both pedals, or
the
> calibrate screen kept jumping around. This is a winXP system, and I'm
sure I'm
> just not used to XP yet. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
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> I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?

Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt

bob wrote in :

>> I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?
>
> Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt
>
>
>

Not a lot of computers in academic or corporate environments deal with
gaming stuff. At least, not "in the open". Many companies run programs
to sniff out and remove games from computers on their networks.

When I was in the office envirnment, my support guys knew a ton of
stuff about network protocols, security, doing massive upgrades to a
few hundred computers at a go, and a whole bunch of other stuff. They
knew diddley about gameports, or whether ATI was better than nVidia at
rendering GPL or NR2K3.

--
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In article >, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr."
> writes:

>I have xp. The short of it is that it will be very difficult to get the TSW
>working with XP correctly. With my TSW2, it would work but work poorly
>because the option Uwe was talking about does not exist in XP, poll with
>interrupts enabled. So, I didnt have that much success until I got new lower
>grade 200 pots from Thomas Enterprises and a USB converter, then it was a
>ton better. They actually have a better method now that will basically
>rewire the TSW into a "native" USB controller with the high grade pots and
>that is what I will do eventually but havent since I dont drive that much
>right now. So, I would go that route ..

Crap - I was hoping that it was just some setting I missed because I'm not used
to XP. Looks like I'm stuck racing with my old PC until I get the new pots.
Either that, or load Win2k on it instead...
Thanks

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In article >, "Biz"
> writes:

>Bottom line is gameport support+XP=good luck...
>
>Gameport support is severely limited in WinXP.
>
>I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?

We don't have too many driving wheels in an office setting...<g>

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In article >, "bob" >
writes:

>Subject: XP, SBLive, TSW
>From: "bob" >
>Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:30:10 -0500
>
>> I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?
>
>Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt
>
>

Like what's your beef? I don't know you from Adam, but you've for some reason
decided to insult me at every chance. So bob - why *have* you picked me as
your random anonymous internet target?

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"EldredP" wrote...
>> <snip>
> Like what's your beef? I don't know you from Adam, but you've for some
> reason decided to insult me at every chance. So bob - why *have* you
> picked me as your random anonymous internet target?

He hopes other poster will jump to your aid. Do I need to remind you of your
own .sig?

Jan.
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"bob" > wrote in message
...
> > I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?
>
> Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt
>
>

He knows some important stuff, like what a jackass you are....

Bottom line, Eldred: USB is a better "game port" than the old game port
(consumes fewer resources; less lag). Yer PDPI excepted.

"EldredP" -OFF> wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Biz"
> > writes:
>
> >Bottom line is gameport support+XP=good luck...
> >
> >Gameport support is severely limited in WinXP.
> >
> >I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?
>
> We don't have too many driving wheels in an office setting...<g>
>
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