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Selfmaded E90-Pictures
Hello BMW-Enthusiasts,
here are selfmaded Pictures of the new BMW 320i Model E90 on my private Website: http://www.hadel.net/autos/html/d_pkw_bmw_320i.html All the Cars are Righthanded-Drives for the Export to Asia Best Regards from Germany Jens Hadel www.hadel.net |
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Thanks for the post.
As for the looks of the cars...what a convoluted mess. Maybe they look better "in the flesh". Sure hope so. Sure doubt it. I sense the value of E46 3-Series is on the rise. - GRL Jens Hadel wrote: > Hello BMW-Enthusiasts, > > here are selfmaded Pictures of the new BMW 320i Model E90 on my private > Website: > > http://www.hadel.net/autos/html/d_pkw_bmw_320i.html > > All the Cars are Righthanded-Drives for the Export to Asia > > > Best Regards from Germany > > > Jens Hadel > www.hadel.net > |
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GRL > haute in die Tasten:
> I sense the value of E46 3-Series is on the rise. > LOL Whenever [insert brand name here] replaces a car with a new model, some guys begin to whine and tell funny things about the resale value of the soon to be replaced car. When the E38 was replaced by the E65, the huge depreciation of this car became even worse, so it was with the E39/E60, and I bet that it will be the same with the E46/E90. BTW: I just read the first review on the E90, published by german car mag auto motor sport, and they were amazed. The only negative things they found ot during their first test ride, was the fact that you need to push a button for starting the engine - instead of just turning the key. Frank -- please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Citroen - Made in Trance |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:38:19 -0000, "tim"
> wrote: > > >> As for the looks of the cars...what a convoluted mess. Maybe they look >> better "in the flesh". Sure hope so. Sure doubt it. > >Hmmm, what HAVE they done to the radiator grills! Made it look like the new Audi? -- Dan Drake |
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I'm sure the point about E46 values to go up was (mostly) a joke. I
also don't doubt that the E60 will be mechanically very competent (if not particularly reliable, since BMW has had trouble with that of late, as have all the German brands) and mostly better overall than the E46. On the other hand, as far as looks go, and that was the point after all, I find it hard to believe that, given the photos in the posted link, anybody will call the E60 an improvment over the E46. It appears to be an awkward looking beast, at best. The rear 1/4 view I found particularly unattractive. Say what you will about the E46, it is at least a pleasant shape and in some colors and from some angles quite beautiful. Maybe the E60 look will grow on those of us who don't like it now, but I doubt it. I think this leaves a giant opening for Infiniti and especially Lexus with the IS replacement. The G35 is no beauty, but at least it's a mostly harmonic shape. We don't know yet what Toyota will do with the IS. The old one was too boy racer, a little small and needed 50 hp, but that's about all it needed. - nopcbs Frank Kemper wrote: > GRL > haute in die Tasten: > > > I sense the value of E46 3-Series is on the rise. > > > > LOL > > Whenever [insert brand name here] replaces a car with a new model, some > guys begin to whine and tell funny things about the resale value of the > soon to be replaced car. > > When the E38 was replaced by the E65, the huge depreciation of this car > became even worse, so it was with the E39/E60, and I bet that it will be > the same with the E46/E90. BTW: I just read the first review on the E90, > published by german car mag auto motor sport, and they were amazed. The > only negative things they found ot during their first test ride, was the > fact that you need to push a button for starting the engine - instead of > just turning the key. > > Frank > > -- > please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact > > Citroen - Made in Trance |
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"nopcbs" > haute in die Tasten:
> On the other hand, as far as looks go, and that was the point after > all, I find it hard to believe that, given the photos in the posted > link, anybody will call the E60 an improvment over the E46. I have seen the E90 (E60 ist the 5'series) several times in real life because some BMW guy seems to live in my neighborhood and so a slightly camouflaged pre-series sedan was parked in my street several days. My general impression is: 1. I like the design. The car looks nice and sporty. 2. Given the fact that the E90 is substantially larger than the E46, they succeded in hinding this fact somehow. 3. IMHO the visual difference between E46 and E90 is smaller than the difference between E38 and E65 and between E39 and E60. I would like to call the designs of those cars revolutionary (which does not mean that every revolution is a good thing), while the E90 is more of an evolution. 4. Yes, I think the design is an improvement. Frank -- please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Citroen - Made in Trance |
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I stand corrected. It was the E90 I meant, not E60. E-confusion.
In the end, I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves if the new series is a stying success. You've seen it and like. I have seen only photos and don't care for the look. At least, as you imply, Bangle was reigned in a bit. - nopcbs Frank Kemper wrote: > "nopcbs" > haute in die Tasten: > > > On the other hand, as far as looks go, and that was the point after > > all, I find it hard to believe that, given the photos in the posted > > link, anybody will call the E60 an improvment over the E46. > > I have seen the E90 (E60 ist the 5'series) several times in real life > because some BMW guy seems to live in my neighborhood and so a slightly > camouflaged pre-series sedan was parked in my street several days. My > general impression is: > > 1. I like the design. The car looks nice and sporty. > 2. Given the fact that the E90 is substantially larger than the E46, they > succeded in hinding this fact somehow. > 3. IMHO the visual difference between E46 and E90 is smaller than the > difference between E38 and E65 and between E39 and E60. I would like to > call the designs of those cars revolutionary (which does not mean that > every revolution is a good thing), while the E90 is more of an evolution. > 4. Yes, I think the design is an improvement. > > Frank > -- > please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact > > Citroen - Made in Trance |
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This week's review in the UK Sunday Times was very favourable:
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...450589,00.html The model tested was the 320d. The journalist did not like the appearance both inside and out, but still thought the best small car just got better. DAS BMW 3-Series By Andrew Frankel of The Sunday Times Who can catch it now? I first drove a car at 150mph exactly 20 years ago. It was a Ferrari. I can remember the anticipation as the toll booth barrier released me onto a deserted French autoroute and I booted it. Its 3 litre V8 engine got me to 135mph fairly quickly but that last 15mph took an age. After howling at me for what seemed like days, the engine finally pushed the speedo needle to the magic ton-and-a-half mark. I did 150mph again last week, but in rather different circumstances. This time I was not in an Italian supercar but a 2 litre diesel saloon. Again it took a long time, and I can't vouch for the accuracy of its speedo, but what I do know is that, given a sufficiently long stretch of road, the new BMW 320d will comfortably reach 150mph. Twenty years ago you'd have struggled to find a 2 litre diesel that would do 100mph. Such is the pace of change in this industry in general and at BMW in particular that with the new 3-series BMW finds itself in the curious position of replacing a car that's still the best in its class and selling in massive numbers despite being six years old. Last year in Britain it outsold the likes of the Vauxhall Vectra and Volkswagen Polo. Although the coupé, touring and cabriolet models will continue until they're gradually superseded over the next two years, the new saloon will be in the showrooms from March. It is slightly larger in every direction, considerably less attractive and even more able than the car it replaces. The showpiece of the new range is clearly the 320d. It will sell as many as all the other 3-series models put together and, for the money, it offers the best value. In SE trim the 320d costs £24,390, or just £1,800 more than a similarly specified 320i. Yet it offers more power (163bhp v 150bhp) and better acceleration (0-62mph in 8.3sec v 9sec). It will also depreciate much more slowly, but the killer is its fuel consumption: this car, which even BMW says will do 140mph, will return around 50mpg. The petrol car can't get close to 40mpg. These figures are extraordinary. A shame, then, that such a superlative engine is fitted to such a disappointing looking car. It's not ugly like the 1-series or 7-series. BMW couldn't afford to risk doing anything radical to a car responsible for 60% of its sales. If anything, it has been too conservative. The car is bland on the outside, drab on the inside and a poor shadow of its sleek looking predecessor. It looks like a committee car. When I tested it in Spain it attracted very little attention, even after a couple of hundred miles in and out of Spanish towns. Once, I got stopped by the police. They had a good look over the car but even after I had won them over and got chatting they seemed unaware they were in the presence of perhaps the most important car to be launched in Europe this year. BMW has worked hard on the interior and has liberated more leg and shoulder room in the back. Then again it has largely negated these advances by reducing headroom. If you're 6ft or more, the rear of the cabin will be as off-limits as ever. But owners of this, the fifth generation of the 3-series, will never sit in the back and will care rather more about how it drives. And by its class standards it is exceptional. Quicker and dramatically more refined than its closest rival, the noisy Audi A4 2.0TDI, it rides and handles with more aplomb, too. On the motorway the engine remains unobtrusive even at high speeds and when the roads start to curve you'll find the 3-series a more willing partner than ever. There's more grip, the steering is sharp and full of feel and, in extremis, its manners are utterly impeccable. The other 3-series I drove, the £28,455 330iSE, was slightly less impressive, not least because BMW had chosen to fit it with its ghastly (and mercifully optional) active steering system. This varies the steering's gearing according to road speed with the result that you never quite know how far the car is going to turn when you move the wheel. But its new 3 litre 258bhp engine is a masterpiece, hurling this staid-looking saloon to 62mph in 6.3sec. It would go past 155mph, too, were it not for electronic intervention. But the little diesel is the star and the only thing that really depresses me is that it's soon to become the weapon of choice for all those thousands of neanderthal single males who currently use the 3-series as a guided missile in their quest to get from one end of the motorway to the other faster than anyone else. I can already hear the drooling. BMW is not to be blamed for the excesses of its customers. Unlike its last effort, the deeply disappointing 1-series, BMW has judged the 3-series if not to perfection then certainly to a level damn near to it. It may look a little dull inside and out, but do not let that mask the true significance of the new 3-series: the finest small saloon in the world just got a whole lot better. Vital statistics Model BMW 320d SE Engine type Four-cylinder in line, 1995cc Power/Torque 163bhp @ 4000rpm / 251 lb ft @ 2000rpm Transmission Six-speed manual Fuel/CO2 49.6mpg (combined) / 153g/km Performance 0-62mph: 8.3sec / Top speed: 140mph (officially) Price £24,390 Verdict The best small saloon in the world Rating 4/5 The opposition Model Mercedes C220 CDI Classic SE, £24,650 For Comfortable ride, good handling, frugality Against Limited performance, too costly Model Audi A4 2.0 TDI SE, £21,950 For Great-looking and beautifully built Against Noisy engine, chassis not up to BMW's -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "nopcbs" > wrote in message oups.com... >I stand corrected. It was the E90 I meant, not E60. E-confusion. > > In the end, I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves if the > new series is a stying success. You've seen it and like. I have seen > only photos and don't care for the look. At least, as you imply, Bangle > was reigned in a bit. > > - nopcbs > > > Frank Kemper wrote: >> "nopcbs" > haute in die Tasten: >> >> > On the other hand, as far as looks go, and that was the point after >> > all, I find it hard to believe that, given the photos in the posted >> > link, anybody will call the E60 an improvment over the E46. >> >> I have seen the E90 (E60 ist the 5'series) several times in real life > >> because some BMW guy seems to live in my neighborhood and so a > slightly >> camouflaged pre-series sedan was parked in my street several days. My > >> general impression is: >> >> 1. I like the design. The car looks nice and sporty. >> 2. Given the fact that the E90 is substantially larger than the E46, > they >> succeded in hinding this fact somehow. >> 3. IMHO the visual difference between E46 and E90 is smaller than the > >> difference between E38 and E65 and between E39 and E60. I would like > to >> call the designs of those cars revolutionary (which does not mean > that >> every revolution is a good thing), while the E90 is more of an > evolution. >> 4. Yes, I think the design is an improvement. >> >> Frank >> -- >> please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact >> >> Citroen - Made in Trance > |
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Looks like the (awful) MG ZT.
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