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Haynes manual instructions
Nedavno Bill 2 pise:
| > >This should be included with every Haynes manual sold: | > >http://u225.torque.net/haynes_instructions.html | > | > While they are not the best choice, they are not quite that bad. | | Actually yes they are. They are filled with so much incorrect, | incomplete information that your money is better spent paying a couple | bucks more for the factory service manual. I have 1977 Puch Maxi, and was happy to find Haynes manual for it (from 1973) on amazon.com. Never even heard about Haynes until I joined this group. I am completely disappointed with it as this seems to be a "complete idiots guide" to disassemble and assemble it's engine. OK, not quite, but I hoped for much more details. I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and BMW. Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-) -- ___ ____ /__/ / \ ** Registrovani korisnik Linuksa #291606 ** / / \/ /\ \ ** http://counter.li.org/ ** /__/\____/--\__\ ** Reply at: iimperl - at - ml1 - dot - net ** |
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Highly doubtful. In fact, probably worse.
Bite the bullet and get the Factory Service Manual's. Yvan wrote: > I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and BMW. > Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-) > > > |
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Nedavno Mike Behnke pise:
| Highly doubtful. In fact, probably worse. | | Bite the bullet and get the Factory Service Manual's. | | > I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and | > BMW. Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-) I probably will. -- ___ ____ /__/ / \ ** Registrovani korisnik Linuksa #291606 ** / / \/ /\ \ ** http://counter.li.org/ ** /__/\____/--\__\ ** Reply at: iimperl - at - ml1 - dot - net ** |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 20:51:47 +0100, Yvan > wrote:
>Nedavno Mike Behnke pise: > >| Highly doubtful. In fact, probably worse. >| >| Bite the bullet and get the Factory Service Manual's. >| >| > I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and >| > BMW. Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-) > >I probably will. I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* You subscribe on an annual fee basis; something like $25 a year or some such. Can't remember the name, but, that is the way I would go. A -physical- shop manual weights 20 pounds, takes a day to put together into the binders, and is a monstrosity. And unless you're changing out the rod bearings on your pistons or something, it seems to be a *bit* of overkill for most repairs you would make as a hobbyist. Many repairs require specialized tools, and those are going to cost you a fortune, and you may only use them once. Sometimes it makes more sense to bring the dang thing into a qualified service shop. Lg |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name > offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* Alldata. Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. > A -physical- shop manual weights 20 pounds, takes a day to put > together into the binders, and is a monstrosity. Horse****. A physical shop manual consists of one or a few volumes, usually totalling about 5 pounds and fitting easily on a bookshelf. How do I know? Well, it might have something to do with the twenty or thirty factory service manuals I own. > And unless you're changing out the rod bearings on your pistons or > something, it seems to be a *bit* of overkill for most repairs you would > make as a hobbyist. If you're trying to replace "rod bearings on your pistons", you've got much bigger problems than what manual to use. > Sometimes it makes more sense to bring the dang thing into a qualified > service shop. Sometimes it makes more sense to know what the hell you're talking about before you post. DS |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:52:03 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
> wrote: >On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote: > >> I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name >> offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* > >Alldata. Yah, thanks. Alldata. I've heard a lot about it but haven't signed up ( yet ). > Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It >contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several >sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. hmmmmm > >> A -physical- shop manual weights 20 pounds, takes a day to put >> together into the binders, and is a monstrosity. > >Horse****. A physical shop manual consists of one or a few volumes, >usually totalling about 5 pounds and fitting easily on a bookshelf. How do >I know? Well, it might have something to do with the twenty or thirty >factory service manuals I own. So, that is horse****. I bought a service manual for a car and it came in two cardboard boxes. And it was big, and it was heavy. Maybe my memory of it isn't as clear as it should be, but I remember big, and I remember heavy. Of course, I'm not the "Hulk" you probably are, I'm just a little guy. >> And unless you're changing out the rod bearings on your pistons or >> something, it seems to be a *bit* of overkill for most repairs you would >> make as a hobbyist. > >If you're trying to replace "rod bearings on your pistons", you've got >much bigger problems than what manual to use. exactly so >> Sometimes it makes more sense to bring the dang thing into a qualified >> service shop. > >Sometimes it makes more sense to know what the hell you're talking about >before you post. blow it out your ass. I've been around longer than you have chump ( with a small c ). And I know more than you do, chump. Maybe not about any one particular thing, but things in general. Outta my way, sleezeball. BTW, ever finish high school did we? Lg >DS DS for damn shame. |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:52:03 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
> wrote: >On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote: > >> I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name >> offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* > >Alldata. Yah, thanks. Alldata. I've heard a lot about it but haven't signed up ( yet ). > Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It >contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several >sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. hmmmmm > >> A -physical- shop manual weights 20 pounds, takes a day to put >> together into the binders, and is a monstrosity. > >Horse****. A physical shop manual consists of one or a few volumes, >usually totalling about 5 pounds and fitting easily on a bookshelf. How do >I know? Well, it might have something to do with the twenty or thirty >factory service manuals I own. So, that is horse****. I bought a service manual for a car and it came in two cardboard boxes. And it was big, and it was heavy. Maybe my memory of it isn't as clear as it should be, but I remember big, and I remember heavy. Of course, I'm not the "Hulk" you probably are, I'm just a little guy. >> And unless you're changing out the rod bearings on your pistons or >> something, it seems to be a *bit* of overkill for most repairs you would >> make as a hobbyist. > >If you're trying to replace "rod bearings on your pistons", you've got >much bigger problems than what manual to use. exactly so >> Sometimes it makes more sense to bring the dang thing into a qualified >> service shop. > >Sometimes it makes more sense to know what the hell you're talking about >before you post. blow it out your ass. I've been around longer than you have chump ( with a small c ). And I know more than you do, chump. Maybe not about any one particular thing, but things in general. Outta my way, sleezeball. BTW, ever finish high school did we? Lg >DS DS for damn shame. |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote: > > >>I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name >>offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* > > > Alldata. Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It > contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several > sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. Daniel, I own two alldata subscriptions - one for a GM, the other for a Chrysler product. While I am only recently finding that not all their information is complete, I have consistently noticed that what they do have is word-for-word out of the FSM. Figures and schematics are an exact copy of the ones in the FSM. You've obviously seen different? Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote: > > >>I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name >>offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* > > > Alldata. Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It > contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several > sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. Daniel, I own two alldata subscriptions - one for a GM, the other for a Chrysler product. While I am only recently finding that not all their information is complete, I have consistently noticed that what they do have is word-for-word out of the FSM. Figures and schematics are an exact copy of the ones in the FSM. You've obviously seen different? Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> I think there is some *online* service, don't remember the name > offhand, and they have your service manual *online.* Alldata. Naw, they don't. They have *THEIR* service manual online. It contains somebody else's digest of information that comes from several sources. Many procedures are reasonably complete, others aren't. > A -physical- shop manual weights 20 pounds, takes a day to put > together into the binders, and is a monstrosity. Horse****. A physical shop manual consists of one or a few volumes, usually totalling about 5 pounds and fitting easily on a bookshelf. How do I know? Well, it might have something to do with the twenty or thirty factory service manuals I own. > And unless you're changing out the rod bearings on your pistons or > something, it seems to be a *bit* of overkill for most repairs you would > make as a hobbyist. If you're trying to replace "rod bearings on your pistons", you've got much bigger problems than what manual to use. > Sometimes it makes more sense to bring the dang thing into a qualified > service shop. Sometimes it makes more sense to know what the hell you're talking about before you post. DS |
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