GOODBYE to the PT Cruiser

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:56:01 +0100, DAS wrote:

> Better than the old ones. Mechanics and bodyshop workers may cheer less.
> We'll see.
>
> DAS

C'mon! FIAT kept many a corner mechanic in business until they pulled the
plug!

Ever driven a LADA? Hard to conceptualize, but it's a FIAT, only WORSE!!!!!

In all fairness, the new 500 looks like a cool car. If they make good I'd
even consider one.


>
> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling' --
> "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:55:12 -0500, JLA wrote:
> [...]>
>> Oh, no! FIATs in the US again?
>>
>> Mechanics cheer!
>>
>>
>>
>>

On Jul 15, 8:05 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:56:01 +0100, DAS wrote:
> > Better than the old ones. Mechanics and bodyshop workers may cheer less.
> > We'll see.
>
> > DAS
>
> C'mon! FIAT kept many a corner mechanic in business until they pulled the
> plug!
>
> Ever driven a LADA? Hard to conceptualize, but it's a FIAT, only WORSE!!!!!
>
> In all fairness, the new 500 looks like a cool car. If they make good I'd
> even consider one.
>
>
>
> > To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling' --
> > "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:55:12 -0500, JLA wrote:
> > [...]>
> >> Oh, no! FIATs in the US again?
>
> >> Mechanics cheer!

What the hell are you doing in this group?? LOL Check out my
thread.. 1949 chrysler royal

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:17:30 -0700, Nza wrote:

> On Jul 15, 8:05 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク > wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:56:01 +0100, DAS wrote:
>> > Better than the old ones. Mechanics and bodyshop workers may cheer less.
>> > We'll see.
>>
>> > DAS
>>
>> C'mon! FIAT kept many a corner mechanic in business until they pulled the
>> plug!
>>
>> Ever driven a LADA? Hard to conceptualize, but it's a FIAT, only WORSE!!!!!
>>
>> In all fairness, the new 500 looks like a cool car. If they make good I'd
>> even consider one.
>>
>>
>>
>> > To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling' --
>> > "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:55:12 -0500, JLA wrote:
>> > [...]>
>> >> Oh, no! FIATs in the US again?
>>
>> >> Mechanics cheer!
>
> What the hell are you doing in this group?? LOL Check out my
> thread.. 1949 chrysler royal


I just did.


Believe it or not, one of my most favorite vehicles on Earth is...'94-95
Chrysler minivans. Well, not the mini-minivans, although we had one when
the kids were little. I like the long-wheelbase version. Had three of
those, one AWD, and one well on it's way to Toyota type mileage.

I also had an LHS ('94) that I traded when I bought the Scion, and have
been kicking myself ever since. For $600, I should have kept it. I don't
like large American cars, but that thing was GREAT, got ~28 MPG combined,
and handled almost as well as an old Celica I had!

> JLA wrote:
> From AB
>
> ***
> Chrysler's long-lived PT Cruiser will finally roll off into the
sunset next month after a decade in production. According to the
Detroit Free Press, when the 2010 model year winds down at Chrysler's
Toluca, Mexico plant on July 9, the final Cruisers will be produced.
The retro-styled five door hatchback was a sensation when it debuted
and inspired customers to pay a premium over the sticker price to get
one. Over the years, the styling was tweaked only slightly its
competitiveness declined significantly as DaimlerChrysler steadfastly
refused to invest in it.
>
> The Cruiser was originally earmarked for discontinuation a year
ago, but when Chrysler emerged from bankruptcy, it needed product, so
the automaker kept it alive for another 12 months. The Toluca factory
will now be re-tooled for production of another retro-design small
car, the Fiat 500 which joins the Chrysler lineup later this year.
>
> ****

Could this have been the NEXT PT Cruiser??

From AB

The end of production of the Chrysler PT Cruiser prompted someone to
try his hand at rendering what could have been a next-generation
edition of the retro hatchback. It's often been said that following
up a retro design is particularly difficult, though admittedly, BMW
has managed to do so with the Mini.

The artist, Andrew Currie, has taken his cue from Mini by retaining
the original PT's basic shape, with the biggest changes applied to
the nose. A larger grille with four round, exposed headlamps still
retains the flavor of the outgoing model. If the design were applied
to a more modern platform with an up-to-date powertrain and better
handling, it's certainly possible it could have been successful. The
problem is that such designs tend to be fashion statements, and you
know what they say about "One day you're in ..." In part,
Mini's success has come by expanding the concept to different body
styles including the Clubman, Countryman and the upcoming coupe and
roadster. It's not clear that a single PT variant could do the job.

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On Jul 18, 12:58 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:17:30 -0700, Nza wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 8:05 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:56:01 +0100, DAS wrote:
> >> > Better than the old ones. Mechanics and bodyshop workers may cheer less.
> >> > We'll see.
>
> >> > DAS
>
> >> C'mon! FIAT kept many a corner mechanic in business until they pulled the
> >> plug!
>
> >> Ever driven a LADA? Hard to conceptualize, but it's a FIAT, only WORSE!!!!!
>
> >> In all fairness, the new 500 looks like a cool car. If they make good I'd
> >> even consider one.
>
> >> > To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling' --
> >> > "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:55:12 -0500, JLA wrote:
> >> > [...]>
> >> >> Oh, no! FIATs in the US again?
>
> >> >> Mechanics cheer!
>
> > What the hell are you doing in this group?? LOL Check out my
> > thread.. 1949 chrysler royal
>
> I just did.
>
> Believe it or not, one of my most favorite vehicles on Earth is...'94-95
> Chrysler minivans. Well, not the mini-minivans, although we had one when
> the kids were little. I like the long-wheelbase version. Had three of
> those, one AWD, and one well on it's way to Toyota type mileage.
>
> I also had an LHS ('94) that I traded when I bought the Scion, and have
> been kicking myself ever since. For $600, I should have kept it. I don't
> like large American cars, but that thing was GREAT, got ~28 MPG combined,
> and handled almost as well as an old Celica I had!

Damn, i didn't realise you were an old mofo.. LOL!
I have sworn off marriage and children, personally.. i already pay
enough taxes.. no need to strap the little *******s with debt before
they are conceived...

> >
> > ****
>
> Could this have been the NEXT PT Cruiser??
>
> From AB
>
> The end of production of the Chrysler PT Cruiser prompted someone to
> try his hand at rendering what could have been a next-generation
> edition of the retro hatchback. It's often been said that following
> up a retro design is particularly difficult, though admittedly, BMW
> has managed to do so with the Mini.
>
> The artist, Andrew Currie, has taken his cue from Mini by retaining
> the original PT's basic shape, with the biggest changes applied to
> the nose. A larger grille with four round, exposed headlamps still
> retains the flavor of the outgoing model. If the design were applied
> to a more modern platform with an up-to-date powertrain and better
> handling, it's certainly possible it could have been successful. The
> problem is that such designs tend to be fashion statements, and you
> know what they say about "One day you're in ..." In part,
> Mini's success has come by expanding the concept to different body
> styles including the Clubman, Countryman and the upcoming coupe and
> roadster. It's not clear that a single PT variant could do the job.
>
> View the attachments for this post at:
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.p...20671#56320671
>
Several years ago there was a rumor that Chrysler would make the next-
gen PT on the Sebring platform and go with a of course much modified and
updated version of the old Airflow.

In article >,
lid (JLA) wrote:

> The Toluca factory
> will now be re-tooled for production of another retro-design small
> car, the Fiat 500 which joins the Chrysler lineup later this year.

The PT Cruiser didn't quite meet my needs, but I gave it a close look.
I know the 500 puddle jumper is not what I need, so it won't get me in
the Chrysler salesroom. Over the last few years Chrysler has wasted
money using their trucks as an attraction in direct mail outs to me, not
my interest either. Why the hell would a house of always two Chrysler
cars over 25 years want a truck?
I can see that the 500 may be attractive as a two person commuter car.

At this time the VW 2.0L diesel has my interest. I'll be looking closely
at the slightly larger Jetta VW plans to manufacture in their new USA
plant.

CopperTop wrote:


> Several years ago there was a rumor that Chrysler would make the next-
> gen PT on the Sebring platform and go with a of course much modified and
> updated version of the old Airflow.
Which year? 1934, 35,36,37. Great car. I saw one at a Chrysler show where
someone had installed a Fluid Drive from a later Chrysler, it was really
sweet! Also, don't forget the DeSoto Airflow!