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Neon cooling fans
I acquired a 96 neon, and it has a problem with the cooling fans not
turning on. I traded the fan relay with the horn relay, and the horn continued working, but the fan still did not. Also, when I plugged the relay in with the engine hot, I could feel it clicking, but no fan. Then I put a jumper across the two contacts that the relay is supposed to connect and the fan still didn't turn on. Another problem is that although the air conditioner clutch engages when it is turned on, the fan doesn't start. I notice that this car has two fans. I have not yet had an opportunity to get a service manual for this car (not sure I'm going to keep it anyway). I'm wondering, if one fan is dead, will it prevent either one from starting? Why two fans anyway? Is it a two speed system with two fans, or is one for the engine and the other for the AC? |
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"Robbie and Laura Reynolds" > wrote in message ... > I acquired a 96 neon, and it has a problem with the cooling fans not > turning on. I traded the fan relay with the horn relay, and the horn > continued working, but the fan still did not. Also, when I plugged the > relay in with the engine hot, I could feel it clicking, but no fan. > Then I put a jumper across the two contacts that the relay is supposed > to connect and the fan still didn't turn on. > > Another problem is that although the air conditioner clutch engages when > it is turned on, the fan doesn't start. > > I notice that this car has two fans. I have not yet had an opportunity > to get a service manual for this car (not sure I'm going to keep it > anyway). I'm wondering, if one fan is dead, will it prevent either one > from starting? Why two fans anyway? Is it a two speed system with two > fans, or is one for the engine and the other for the AC? Are the Fuses in the PDC good? have you checked for battery voltage and a good ground when the fan is supposed to be on? Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech |
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maxpower wrote: > Are the Fuses in the PDC good? have you checked for battery voltage and a > good ground when the fan is supposed to be on? > > Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech What does "PDC" stand for? I assume you're talking about the box behind the battery, because that's where the fuses and relays are. I checked the fuses, and they were good. I hadn't gotten around to the voltage yet. Looks like a nice sun-shiny morning. I'll get out there with a volt meter next. |
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have a local dealer run the vin there was a recall for fan issues on some
neons Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote: > I acquired a 96 neon, and it has a problem with the cooling fans not > turning on. I traded the fan relay with the horn relay, and the horn > continued working, but the fan still did not. Also, when I plugged the > relay in with the engine hot, I could feel it clicking, but no fan. > Then I put a jumper across the two contacts that the relay is supposed > to connect and the fan still didn't turn on. > > Another problem is that although the air conditioner clutch engages when > it is turned on, the fan doesn't start. > > I notice that this car has two fans. I have not yet had an opportunity > to get a service manual for this car (not sure I'm going to keep it > anyway). I'm wondering, if one fan is dead, will it prevent either one > from starting? Why two fans anyway? Is it a two speed system with two > fans, or is one for the engine and the other for the AC? |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote:
> I acquired a 96 neon, and it has a problem with the cooling fans not > turning on. I traded the fan relay with the horn relay, and the horn > continued working, but the fan still did not. Also, when I plugged the > relay in with the engine hot, I could feel it clicking, but no fan. Then > I put a jumper across the two contacts that the relay is supposed to > connect and the fan still didn't turn on. Could be a dead fusible link (or other circuit-protection device) in the fan's power circuit, upstream of the fan relay. Put your voltmeter or test light across ground and the fan relay socket slot that mates with the relay's terminal 30. If you find no voltage, you've got an open in the circuit. These fusible links tend to blow only for a reason, i.e., the fan motor starts drawing too much current because its bearings are shot. And once that circuit protection is open, BOTH fans will fail to run. DS |
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"Robbie and Laura Reynolds" > wrote in message ... > > > maxpower wrote: > > > Are the Fuses in the PDC good? have you checked for battery voltage and a > > good ground when the fan is supposed to be on? > > > > Glenn Beasley > > Chrysler Tech > > What does "PDC" stand for? I assume you're talking about the box behind > the battery, because that's where the fuses and relays are. I checked > the fuses, and they were good. I hadn't gotten around to the voltage > yet. Looks like a nice sun-shiny morning. I'll get out there with a > volt meter next. Yes thats what I am refering to, PDC Power Distribution Center |
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"philthy" > wrote in message ... > have a local dealer run the vin there was a recall for fan issues on some > neons > > Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote: > > > I acquired a 96 neon, and it has a problem with the cooling fans not > > turning on. I traded the fan relay with the horn relay, and the horn > > continued working, but the fan still did not. Also, when I plugged the > > relay in with the engine hot, I could feel it clicking, but no fan. > > Then I put a jumper across the two contacts that the relay is supposed > > to connect and the fan still didn't turn on. > > > > Another problem is that although the air conditioner clutch engages when > > it is turned on, the fan doesn't start. > > > > I notice that this car has two fans. I have not yet had an opportunity > > to get a service manual for this car (not sure I'm going to keep it > > anyway). I'm wondering, if one fan is dead, will it prevent either one > > from starting? Why two fans anyway? Is it a two speed system with two > > fans, or is one for the engine and the other for the AC? > The only recall that was out on a cooling problem for that year vehicle was replacing the radiator assembly. (recall#694) And that was only if the vehicle was built at the Toluca Plant and it had to be built between April 24 1996 thru May 28 1996. !997 and 98 Had the radiator fan relay recall #7691 and 7692 Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech |
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"Daniel J. Stern" wrote: > > Could be a dead fusible link (or other circuit-protection device) in the > fan's power circuit, upstream of the fan relay. Put your voltmeter or test > light across ground and the fan relay socket slot that mates with the > relay's terminal 30. If you find no voltage, you've got an open in the > circuit. These fusible links tend to blow only for a reason, i.e., the fan > motor starts drawing too much current because its bearings are shot. > > And once that circuit protection is open, BOTH fans will fail to run. > > DS Great info! Thanks. |
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Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote:
> > "Daniel J. Stern" wrote: > >> Could be a dead fusible link (or other circuit-protection device) in the >> fan's power circuit, upstream of the fan relay. Put your voltmeter or test >> light across ground and the fan relay socket slot that mates with the >> relay's terminal 30. If you find no voltage, you've got an open in the >> circuit. These fusible links tend to blow only for a reason, i.e., the fan >> motor starts drawing too much current because its bearings are shot. >> >> And once that circuit protection is open, BOTH fans will fail to run. >> >> DS > > Great info! Thanks. > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0545-0, 07/11/2005 > Tested on: 07/11/2005 12:59:59 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > Can you spin the bad fan by hand? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0545-0, 07/11/2005 Tested on: 07/11/2005 1:00:17 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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High Sierra wrote: > Can you spin the bad fan by hand? I can't really assume that it is a bad fan yet, but yes, both of them spin freely. I know that's a good question, because when the fan went bad in my 93 voyager, it locked up. |
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