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Old July 16th 05, 03:12 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Bill wrote:

> For what its worth, R13 was (and may still be ) used in vapor traps for
> vacume systems typicaly found in laboratories (freeze dryers, etc). The
> idea being to remove moisture before it gets to the vacume pump-- some
> cascade systems got to around -120 C as I recall (I serviced these units
> about 20 years ago and as I am an old fart, my memory is not too good
> anymore---I believe the refrigerant I used was actualy called R13B1)


Grand, but you really have to watch those suffixes. There are refrigerants
with the same number but different suffixes ("a" vs "A" vs "B" etc.) that
aren't the same thing.

And no car ever made has ever used R13-anysuffix.
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Old July 16th 05, 07:41 PM
John Kunkel
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Bill wrote:
>
>> For what its worth, R13 was (and may still be ) used in vapor traps for
>> vacume systems typicaly found in laboratories (freeze dryers, etc). The
>> idea being to remove moisture before it gets to the vacume pump-- some
>> cascade systems got to around -120 C as I recall (I serviced these units
>> about 20 years ago and as I am an old fart, my memory is not too good
>> anymore---I believe the refrigerant I used was actualy called R13B1)

>
> Grand, but you really have to watch those suffixes. There are refrigerants
> with the same number but different suffixes ("a" vs "A" vs "B" etc.) that
> aren't the same thing.
>
> And no car ever made has ever used R13-anysuffix.


Which obviously differs from your original statement "There is no such
thing as R13".


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Old July 17th 05, 04:27 AM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, John Kunkel wrote:

> > And no car ever made has ever used R13-anysuffix.

>
> Which obviously differs from your original statement "There is no such
> thing as R13".


Context, John. It's a wonderful thing.
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Old July 18th 05, 04:31 AM
Bill
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As you seem to consider your self an expert in this field, and probably,
most other fields, perhaps you can be more specific as to which suffix for
R-13 is used in what type of equipment---I am well aware of the need to use
the correct refrigerant- there is no question of "context" here----do you
know or will you have to do a google to come up with an answer?
"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, John Kunkel wrote:
>
> > > And no car ever made has ever used R13-anysuffix.

> >
> > Which obviously differs from your original statement "There is no such
> > thing as R13".

>
> Context, John. It's a wonderful thing.



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Old July 18th 05, 10:41 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Bill wrote:

> As you seem to consider your self an expert in this field, and probably,
> most other fields, perhaps you can be more specific as to which suffix
> for R-13 is used in what type of equipment---I am well aware of the need
> to use the correct refrigerant- there is no question of "context"
> here----do you know or will you have to do a google to come up with an
> answer?


Since No variant of R13 is used in any automotive application, the topic
is not germane, and you can do your own google fishing. Or, y'know, if
you're *really* fascinated with the various refrigerants and applications,
you could always study the subject formally.


  #16  
Old August 9th 07, 11:16 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Steve B.
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Default Saab Convertible Hydraulic Oil



I have a '99 Saab with a major leak somewhere in the tops hydraulic
circuit. Problem is all the fluid leaked out and I can't tell where
the leak was.

Saab wants $38 for a little bitty bottle of fluid for the top. I hate
to spend that much just to find the leak knowing it will all leak back
out while I wait for parts. Anybody know what type of fluid this
actually is? I would like to find a cheaper alternative.

Steve B.
  #17  
Old August 10th 07, 12:23 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Scott Dorsey
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Steve B. > wrote:
>I have a '99 Saab with a major leak somewhere in the tops hydraulic
>circuit. Problem is all the fluid leaked out and I can't tell where
>the leak was.
>
>Saab wants $38 for a little bitty bottle of fluid for the top. I hate
>to spend that much just to find the leak knowing it will all leak back
>out while I wait for parts. Anybody know what type of fluid this
>actually is? I would like to find a cheaper alternative.


If it's what I think it is, you can get it from anybody that sells German
car parts. It's the same fluid the Citroens use, too. And I hate to tell
you this, but you are going to pay through the nose for the stuff no matter
where you get it.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  #18  
Old August 11th 07, 06:13 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Harry Face
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Default Saab Convertible Hydraulic Oil

I'd check with some auto parts stores or hardware stores that carry
Hydraulic oil. If the viscosity is the same as what you top systems uses
it might be okay to as a substitute oil. You could always drain it out
and replace it with the more expensive Saab oil later.

My 68 Buick service manual states Type A Transmission fluid was acceptae
to use to top off the fluid level in the convertible top hydraulic
motor.

You could also ask at a convertible top shop what they would recommend
using.

Good Luck


harryface
2005 Park Avenue 60,013
1991 Bonneville 309. 739

  #19  
Old February 10th 09, 05:32 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Steve B.
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Default What the heck do you call it?

'95 Cadillac Fleetwood LT1 engine. All stock

The part in question goes between the Air Pump/Exhaust check valve and
the exhaust manifold. Basically it is just a formed metal pipe. I
have one that has failed and needs to be replaced but I can't find it
anywhere and can't even figure out what to call the part to help me
find it! Any assistance appreciated.


Steve

  #20  
Old February 10th 09, 07:02 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
aarcuda69062
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In article >,
Steve B. > wrote:

> '95 Cadillac Fleetwood LT1 engine. All stock
>
> The part in question goes between the Air Pump/Exhaust check valve and
> the exhaust manifold. Basically it is just a formed metal pipe. I
> have one that has failed and needs to be replaced but I can't find it
> anywhere and can't even figure out what to call the part to help me
> find it! Any assistance appreciated.
>
>
> Steve
>


Air injection pipe.

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