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Old July 22nd 05, 06:07 AM
Paul Calman
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I'm going on patrol again, and fishing for interesting stuff to see and do
along the way.
Leaving California with 3 other heavily loaded motorcycles and camping the
whole
time . We will be heading east on 50, hope to make Lehman Caverns at the
Utah border day one, then thru Green River and to Ouray CO, spend a few days
there, ride the train, etc, then up to Cedaredge uphill from Delta for a few
days, then heading back on 50, then 6 thru Helper to SLC, on to Boise, then
either stay on 84 thru the Dalles to Portland, or out 20 or 26 to Bend and
then up 26 to Portland to visit someone, then out to Tillamook and down the
coast all the way to Tomales Bay before heading back home into the Sierras.
I'm interested in geological, historical, technical, or just plain odd stuff
to see and do, in addition to the stuff my research has
already turned up, but we won't be riding on any unpaved roads.
Expecting it to be a bit warm, and will be prepared.
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Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


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Old July 22nd 05, 08:52 PM
RoyJ
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If you are in the Ouray/Silverton area, be sure to consider one of the
high passes like Cinnaman, Engineer, etc. These aren't for the faint
hearted but in late summer they will be dry with some spots that will
stop a low slung Porche but not sweat with anything else. check with the
locals.

Paul Calman wrote:
> I'm going on patrol again, and fishing for interesting stuff to see and do
> along the way.
> Leaving California with 3 other heavily loaded motorcycles and camping the
> whole
> time . We will be heading east on 50, hope to make Lehman Caverns at the
> Utah border day one, then thru Green River and to Ouray CO, spend a few days
> there, ride the train, etc, then up to Cedaredge uphill from Delta for a few
> days, then heading back on 50, then 6 thru Helper to SLC, on to Boise, then
> either stay on 84 thru the Dalles to Portland, or out 20 or 26 to Bend and
> then up 26 to Portland to visit someone, then out to Tillamook and down the
> coast all the way to Tomales Bay before heading back home into the Sierras.
> I'm interested in geological, historical, technical, or just plain odd stuff
> to see and do, in addition to the stuff my research has
> already turned up, but we won't be riding on any unpaved roads.
> Expecting it to be a bit warm, and will be prepared.

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Old July 22nd 05, 10:55 PM
Earle Horton
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Cinnamon is bad on the beginning and end, with three or four switchbacks
each. This is not good for "heavily loaded motorcycles". You might think
about renting a Jeep in Ouray or Silverton. I think that they are going for
a hundred bucks per day or so, and they have Rubicons at the Triangle
Service Station in Silverton. Ask for Bill, tell him you know me, and maybe
you will get a discount.

The train actually leaves from Durango, CO, about a hundred miles south of
Ouray. Working steam engines, narrow gauge track, you can't get much more
historical than that. Wear safety goggles on the train. The coal smoke is
full of cinders, and drifts right into the passenger compartment.

It could be warm, but it could be cool too. It's been over eighty (hot for
us!) in Silverton, but the Channel Nine weather girl says it will cool down
Saturday.

Earle

"RoyJ" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> If you are in the Ouray/Silverton area, be sure to consider one of the
> high passes like Cinnaman, Engineer, etc. These aren't for the faint
> hearted but in late summer they will be dry with some spots that will
> stop a low slung Porche but not sweat with anything else. check with the
> locals.
>
> Paul Calman wrote:
> > I'm going on patrol again, and fishing for interesting stuff to see and

do
> > along the way.
> > Leaving California with 3 other heavily loaded motorcycles and camping

the
> > whole
> > time . We will be heading east on 50, hope to make Lehman Caverns at the
> > Utah border day one, then thru Green River and to Ouray CO, spend a few

days
> > there, ride the train, etc, then up to Cedaredge uphill from Delta for a

few
> > days, then heading back on 50, then 6 thru Helper to SLC, on to Boise,

then
> > either stay on 84 thru the Dalles to Portland, or out 20 or 26 to Bend

and
> > then up 26 to Portland to visit someone, then out to Tillamook and down

the
> > coast all the way to Tomales Bay before heading back home into the

Sierras.
> > I'm interested in geological, historical, technical, or just plain odd

stuff
> > to see and do, in addition to the stuff my research has
> > already turned up, but we won't be riding on any unpaved roads.
> > Expecting it to be a bit warm, and will be prepared.



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Old July 22nd 05, 11:18 PM
Paul Calman
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I have ridden over the passes a few times on the highway, but there is no
way i will be fire-roading a fully packed goldwing on this trip. My friend
Tom and i have negotiated quite a few dirt roads, but I'm not leading our
wifes, who have far less experience as riders off of the hardpan.
We booked the train trip for the 3rd, i rode it as a kid and have spent a
lot of time woring on a Mallet Locomotive in San Diego. We are going to
leave camp in Ouray at 5:45, ride to Silverton, take the 7:30 bus to
Durango, and the steam train back, still giving us half the day to goof
around.
Earl, is that your house with the 3 or 4 jeeps in front, I think Blair St?
Maybe I'm thinking Model Ts. If it's OK I may knock on your door on the
third to say howdy.
We may rent a jeep, but that's not definate. I was thinking of bringing mine
out next summer and going to Moab, visiting the inlaws in Mancos, then going
to Silverton.

Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



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Old July 23rd 05, 06:18 PM
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Paul Calman proclaimed:

> I'm going on patrol again, and fishing for interesting stuff to see and do
> along the way.
> Leaving California with 3 other heavily loaded motorcycles and camping the
> whole
> time . We will be heading east on 50, hope to make Lehman Caverns at the
> Utah border day one, then thru Green River and to Ouray CO, spend a few days
> there, ride the train, etc, then up to Cedaredge uphill from Delta for a few
> days, then heading back on 50, then 6 thru Helper to SLC, on to Boise, then
> either stay on 84 thru the Dalles to Portland, or out 20 or 26 to Bend and
> then up 26 to Portland to visit someone, then out to Tillamook and down the
> coast all the way to Tomales Bay before heading back home into the Sierras.
> I'm interested in geological, historical, technical, or just plain odd stuff
> to see and do, in addition to the stuff my research has
> already turned up, but we won't be riding on any unpaved roads.
> Expecting it to be a bit warm, and will be prepared.


Have you been down to Crystal Geyser yet, near Green River? Any local
can tell you how to get there. Lotsa honey onyx right on the bank
just to the left of the geyser and up on the small ridge to the right
behind it. Also lotsa dinosaur bone [soft, speciman quality] along
the cliff behind the geyser. Actually several bone areas along the
dry washes as you head down to the geyser. You pass the old
missile base and thru a small canyon, then on the right you have the
clay formations called Maggies Teat [after a former cafe owner
downtown]. Then a rather large jumbled pile of stones a bit
bigger than a car on the right, stop at the next wash to the
left. There is bone all over the north side of that wash in
pinkish and green variety.

From the town of Green River, head up the west side of the
river to where the road ends just as the river comes out
of the canyon. On the east side, they've paved much of
the old road and in the process cut off access to the old
mining roads that cut along the cliffs and end up several miles
east at Thompson Junction... on bikes you might be able to get
thru.

A bit more obscu About 14 miles east of Green River, watch for
Floys Wash. Head south a few miles and stop just past the old
corral. Facing more or less south, turn left and walk until you
come to a drop off with a huge butte a few hundred feet on the
other side. The top of that butte is pretty good agate.

Arrowheads all over the place out there, as is small hunks of
carnelian.

Between Green River and Thompson Junction, about half way, there
are old roads leading off to the left to some old ghost mining
towns up against the lower flanks of the Book Cliffs.

If you get down to Moab, ask the locals how to get to the old
Fowler mine up in the LaSalles at the old ghost town of Miners Basin.
Used to be some halfway decent amethyst up just to the left of the
old cabin. Don't pan the gold from that creek, it is moderately
radioactive, as is the air in the old mine shaft which may have
been borded up by now.

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Old July 24th 05, 12:10 AM
Gary
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Paul-
If you get to Thompson Springs, UT you can get off I-70 and go north
about 3 miles (on paved road) up the canyon to the ghost town of Sego.
There you will find the remains of the old coal mining town. Also,
there are some fairly extensive petroglyph panels, well marked and
easily visible from the road. Some Fremont work, with other more
recent images over the top of it in some places. A couple of picnic
tables and an outhouse that might come in handy, too. A short, easy
side trip but well worth it, IMO.

BTW, Lon - thanks for the info on the geyser. I remember seeing it
several times as a kid, as it was just a few feet off the old highway,
but then I-70 went in and I lost track of just where the geyser was.
I'll have to get out there this fall and check it out after the weather
cools off.

Gary

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Old July 24th 05, 12:23 AM
Paul Calman
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I have been to the Thompson springs petros, there are some even better ones
a little ways beyond the fence, but I suppose you could get shot at
trespassing.

The Crystal geyser sounds very interesting. What is the road like? We expect
100+ temps, and one of our party doest walk so well.
The cemetary in Green River was interesting, a lot of cool whirlygigs and
stuff there.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


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Old July 24th 05, 12:38 AM
Dave Milne
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Guys, I'm interested in petroglyphs & pictographs ; if you have any pictures
to share, please email me !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Paul Calman" > wrote in message
...
> I have been to the Thompson springs petros, there are some even better

ones
> a little ways beyond the fence, but I suppose you could get shot at
> trespassing.
>
> The Crystal geyser sounds very interesting. What is the road like? We

expect
> 100+ temps, and one of our party doest walk so well.
> The cemetary in Green River was interesting, a lot of cool whirlygigs and
> stuff there.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>



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Old July 24th 05, 02:41 AM
Paul Calman
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> Guys, I'm interested in petroglyphs & pictographs ; if you have any
> pictures
> to share, please email me !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland


here's 3 shots from near Boulder, Utah in 2002.
http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/s26.jpg
http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/s27.jpg
http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/s28.jpg
I have some from Thompson, let me see about posting them online

Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


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Old July 24th 05, 04:58 AM
Earle Horton
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These are interesting because they are right on the shore line.

http://www.nps.gov/olym/cultural/weddingrock1.htm

If I can find the photo album from fifteen years ago, I will post more.

Earle

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
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> Guys, I'm interested in petroglyphs & pictographs ; if you have any

pictures
> to share, please email me !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Paul Calman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have been to the Thompson springs petros, there are some even better

> ones
> > a little ways beyond the fence, but I suppose you could get shot at
> > trespassing.
> >
> > The Crystal geyser sounds very interesting. What is the road like? We

> expect
> > 100+ temps, and one of our party doest walk so well.
> > The cemetary in Green River was interesting, a lot of cool whirlygigs

and
> > stuff there.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >

>
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