Recommendations for very small nible 4x4 chase vehicle...

Mike Romain wrote:
> That makes sense, I figured about a 35% difference in size.
>
> Is it the same for towing? You are so right about the short wheel bases
> and towing. A Jeeper friend just got a sweet trailer, a Boler camper
> that weighs in at 900 lb 'fully equipped'.
> http://www.geocities.com/bolerama/
>
> He wants to put CJ springs on that so it follows....
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Did you say trailers!?
Have you looked into these? <http://tentrax.com/>
I'm intrigued by this one. (At 450~600 lb, it's
light. With all that ground clearance (up to 19")
it should handle some serious trails.

or these: <http://www.adventuretrailers.com/>

or even these:
<http://www.jayco.com/html/catalog/product.php?prod_id=52>
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> Mine is 'glass nose to tail and I really want to get it on a scale.
> Stock, my CJ7 is supposed to weigh in around 3100 lb or so but I figure
> I am closer to your 21-2500 lb.
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Hmmm ... I'm feeling like a Missourian on this one
;-) Keep in mind that my Zuk's 1.3L engine weighs
in at just about 100 lb.

If you *DO* get her on a scale, I'd be interested
in the 'tale of the tape' (so to speak).
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> Makes for a mean power to weight ratio. :-) My 258 straight 6 goes
> like a scalded cat. It will pull fast up to 55 mph turning 4400 rpm in
> 2nd and hit 80+ in 3rd. 4th buries the speedo and I have no freaking
> urge to see what 5th will pull to. (my spedo is GPS calibrated right on
> too.)
>
> Mike
><SNIP>
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I'm with you on this need to see speed story. It's
not my mission to set records or be the fastest.
There will always be those that are willing to
take more chances than me. I feel it's analogous
to the trucker who said "You can go down MANY
hills too slow, but you will only go down ONE too
fast!"

btw: my speedo is about 11% slow, so my GPS is all
I trust in this regard.

Take care,
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Poway, California (San Diego Co.)
N 32° 57' W 117° 04'
At 508' Elevation
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You R not really tryin to say that a $3,500 CJ5-7 wll out wheel a
Zuk.........any time yer' ready
we R not talkin' Trail runnin'..........I'm talkin about REAL Wheelin'
Example.......FIREBIRD ....when the Boyz from "4wheel drive and Sport
ute" Mag were here last year My club took them wheelin' in thereHighly
Modded HEEP and they had a Good Time until they BROKE an axle tryin to
follow a Zuk line : )

and then there is the Film/Pics/Video of me pullin' a RUBICON ( "the
most capable HEEP ever") 5 times in one day 3 times out of the sand and
twice in the Rock Garden on Trail 42........How much is one of those
things?

BTW he SOLD it and bought a Zuk

The Dirt Weasel
"JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

ALMOST?....... my Zuk will out-run any HEEP (4-6cyl) and then I will
take ya' out here in my yard ( I have my OWN rock course) so when Ya'
break the HEEP it aint far to the Shop....LOL

The Dirt Weasel
"JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

Stocker to stocker it would be a good match up wouldn't it?

Built up don't count, anything can be built to go certain places.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

PR wrote:
>
> You R not really tryin to say that a $3,500 CJ5-7 wll out wheel a
> Zuk.........any time yer' ready
> we R not talkin' Trail runnin'..........I'm talkin about REAL Wheelin'
> Example.......FIREBIRD ....when the Boyz from "4wheel drive and Sport
> ute" Mag were here last year My club took them wheelin' in thereHighly
> Modded HEEP and they had a Good Time until they BROKE an axle tryin to
> follow a Zuk line : )
>
> and then there is the Film/Pics/Video of me pullin' a RUBICON ( "the
> most capable HEEP ever") 5 times in one day 3 times out of the sand and
> twice in the Rock Garden on Trail 42........How much is one of those
> things?
>
> BTW he SOLD it and bought a Zuk
>
> The Dirt Weasel
> "JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
> if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

My CJ7 with it's stock 258 straight 6 and stock carb will pull out to 55
mph in 2nd turning 4400 rpm. 3rd pulls to over 80 mph fast, 4th will go
way over 100 and I don't 'want' to find out how fast 5th will go.

Off road I can pull at 2 kph or just over 1 mph up pretty much
anything. She will not stall. I guess I could use a lower 1st, but it
works ok for where I drive her.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

PR wrote:
>
> ALMOST?....... my Zuk will out-run any HEEP (4-6cyl) and then I will
> take ya' out here in my yard ( I have my OWN rock course) so when Ya'
> break the HEEP it aint far to the Shop....LOL
>
> The Dirt Weasel
> "JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
> if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

Mike Romain wrote:

> Stocker to stocker it would be a good match up wouldn't it?
>
> Built up don't count, <SNIP>
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But where's the fun in that? ;-)
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> Mike
> <SNIP>


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Poway, California (San Diego Co.)
N 32° 57' W 117° 04'
At 508' Elevation
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4,400 RPM..........thats cruisin' RPM 4 me my motor Redlines at 8,200
RPM .........: )


The Dirt Weasel
"JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

with my 6 to 1 T- case in Lo in 1st gear ........my Zuk speed is 25
Meters per minute........in 5th at 7,500 RPM.......7 MPH.........She is
like a Dozer Sooo Slow

CJ to Zuk Cost
5" of lift....
Zuk = $8.00
CJ = $499.00 - $799.00

4 to 1 T-case
Zuk = $400.00
CJ = $1500.00

6 to 1 T-case
Zuk = $ 600.00
CJ = Don't make one

8 to 1 T-case
Zuk = $900.00
CJ = Don't make one

Rear Axle lock-up
Zuk = $90.00 mini spool
CJ = $239.00

Front axle lock-up
Zuk = $188.00
CJ = $239.00

Ya' C where I'm goin' with this? : )

The Dirt Weasel
"JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important

My red line is 4500.

I have almost all my torque on the wheels by 1000 rpm and she will just
purr at 400 rpm on a pit wall climb. It will dig my muds in if I get
too steep, it won't stall out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

PR wrote:
>
> 4,400 RPM..........thats cruisin' RPM 4 me my motor Redlines at 8,200
> RPM .........: )
>
>
> The Dirt Weasel
> "JEEP..........It's whats fer' Dinner".....".Here Jeeper Jeeper "
> if it takes more than 3 bolts .......... it's important