How to get three carseats in a Wrangler

That is still legal up here last time I checked. It was a while back,
but.

I called when I moved to this province and specifically asked about
passengers in the back of my pickup truck and was told as long as they
are sitting on the floor of the bed, it was still legal. They weren't
allowed to sit on the wheel well.

I didn't ask about kids though, just passengers.

I have driven lots of times with no back seat in my CJ7 and a passenger
sitting on the floor. I have been followed by cops while doing this and
they didn't seem too worried about it. They didn't say anything....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:
>
> LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first
> offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their
> special car seat. My kids rode in back of my Jeeps and pickups without
> seats.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Joe Carroll wrote:
> >
> > I took the back seat out , put in a thick comforter. That way the dog
> > and I get a seat and everone else gets to lay down...
> > Joe Carroll
> > 2K-TJ
> >
> > There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> > Joseph Duemer

>"MidnightDad" > wrote in message
.. .
>> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
>> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
>> have to sell it.
>
No offense intended - I love Wranglers - but they are not the safest
vehicles on the road and with triplets he should get a different
vehicle with better street handling and crash protection.

John Davies

I believe he paid about 500 total for the welding and all the harnes belts




"MidnightDad" > wrote in message
...
> I feel compelled to say this about "IsellJeeps"
> >'s comments:
>
> >I sold a Wrangler to a guy who has 3 kids ...I sent him to a local custom
> >truck shop in Houston (Cutten Customs) and they welded a piece of pipe
(like
> >the rollbar) from one end of the rear to the other right under the top of
> >the rear seat.. They added 3 harnes style seat belts for the kids...I
will
> >take a pic and post it if interested!
>
> That would be great if it's not too much trouble.

Hi John,
I'm probably the most pessimistic person you'll find, but I don't
plan to crash on the road, and I've always drove defensively, so in over
fifty years of driving legally, I've never crashed (on road). So the
type of car I drove wouldn't have made any difference with my kids
safety: http://www.billhughes.com/ other than they most have been more
uncomfortable than most.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


John Davies wrote:
>
> >"MidnightDad" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> >> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> >> have to sell it.
> >
> No offense intended - I love Wranglers - but they are not the safest
> vehicles on the road and with triplets he should get a different
> vehicle with better street handling and crash protection.
>
> John Davies

John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.

The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.

Jerry

John Davies wrote:
>>"MidnightDad" > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
>>>out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
>>>have to sell it.
>>
> No offense intended - I love Wranglers - but they are not the safest
> vehicles on the road and with triplets he should get a different
> vehicle with better street handling and crash protection.
>
> John Davies

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Jerry Bransford wrote:
> John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
> actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
> expensive than average" to repair after an accident.

My insurance co. lists vehicles as "symbols" based on all kinds of data.
My '99 dark green TJ Sport is quite a bit more expensive to insure
than my 2005 Radar Red Toyota Tacoma V6 4x4 TRD Access Cab. The Jeep
is even listed as a "non-cummuter".

The Jeep is two notches up the scale from the 4x4 Tacoma, and was even
farther from a 2001 Subaru AWD Outback, which truly is a "safe" car.

So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm
getting killed on liability.

B a r r y wrote:
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
> > actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
> > expensive than average" to repair after an accident.
>
> My insurance co. lists vehicles as "symbols" based on all kinds of data.
> My '99 dark green TJ Sport is quite a bit more expensive to insure
> than my 2005 Radar Red Toyota Tacoma V6 4x4 TRD Access Cab. The Jeep
> is even listed as a "non-cummuter".
>
> The Jeep is two notches up the scale from the 4x4 Tacoma, and was even
> farther from a 2001 Subaru AWD Outback, which truly is a "safe" car.
>
> So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm
> getting killed on liability.

You got that right, my CJ7 is half the cost of my Cherokee for the exact
same coverage and they both are old beaters within 2 years of each
other.

I have also see some crash test stuff on the Wrangler that put it right
up there. Don't remember where, TV for sure.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Switch insurance companies:
http://www.billhughes.com/wawanesa05.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


B a r r y wrote:
>
> My insurance co. lists vehicles as "symbols" based on all kinds of data.
> My '99 dark green TJ Sport is quite a bit more expensive to insure
> than my 2005 Radar Red Toyota Tacoma V6 4x4 TRD Access Cab. The Jeep
> is even listed as a "non-cummuter".
>
> The Jeep is two notches up the scale from the 4x4 Tacoma, and was even
> farther from a 2001 Subaru AWD Outback, which truly is a "safe" car.
>
> So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm
> getting killed on liability.

Hi Mike,
I can imagine a head-on crash with a Subaru and the Jeep driver
walking away.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You got that right, my CJ7 is half the cost of my Cherokee for the exact
> same coverage and they both are old beaters within 2 years of each
> other.
>
> I have also see some crash test stuff on the Wrangler that put it right
> up there. Don't remember where, TV for sure.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.

i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger
seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding
the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll
understand why that new Unlimited is calling.

:-)

martin caskey
millers island, maryland