A604-41TE Amsoil synthetic versus ATF+3 Mpoar 7176 ??

Steve B. wrote:
> On 7 Jun 2005 21:27:51 -0700, wrote:
>
>
>
> Your not going to change anyones mind about Amsoil by acting like a
> spoiled little boy who didn't get his way. Amsoil is right up there
> with religion and poilitics... You believe what you want to believe,
> I'll believe what I want to believe and in the end we'll all still be
> worm food.
>
> Steve B.


What's your problem?

Stop whining because you dislike my point of view.

Stop trying to make this personal by baiting people.

If you are so offended by free speech then move to
the PRC or something.


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By the way it is *you're*, as in "you are not going
to blah blah blah", a contraction of you are, and not
*your*, as in "that's your problem".

Rather than offering ideas and relevant information
you persist in restating the same tired catch phrases,
e.g. "ATF +4 is the only fluid to use!", "AMSOIL is
snake oil!, "It works man!", and other such wearisome
trollish garbage e.g., "Your[sic] this and that and
you smell bad so go away. HAW HAW HAW!"

Clearly your position is sophomoric at best, and
in addition you're making yourself appear stupid.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> writes:
>
> > Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 wrote:
> > >
> > > > ATF +4 is not really a synthetic.
> > >
> > > But it is the one and only correct fluid for a lot of
> > > Mopar transmissions.
> >
> > At least he admits MOPAR ATF +4 is not really synthetic.
>
> Did he ever claim it was a synthetic?
>
> > <giggle>
>
> <gaggle>
>

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation and making yourself look like an ass.

>
> > No semi synthetic can work as well as a full synthetic.
>
> Umm... why not?
>
> --
> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer
>
>

Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

Hmmmm.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> writes:

> > Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 wrote:

> > > > ATF +4 is not really a synthetic.

> > > But it is the one and only correct fluid for a lot of
> > > Mopar transmissions.

> > At least he admits MOPAR ATF +4 is not really synthetic.

> Did he ever claim it was a synthetic?

> > <giggle>

> <gaggle>

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation and making yourself look like an ass.

> > No semi synthetic can work as well as a full synthetic.

> Umm... why not?

> --
> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer


Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

another Pfeifferism of note.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> writes:
>
> > I think Carl moderates a forum somewhere that is what
> > they call a usenet portal and he can block posts there
> > that still show up on Google Groups.
> >
> > No matter. Censorship sucks no matter what. I notice
> > that many automotive forums link to this Google Groups
> > thread. The thing is that lots of them are censored.
> > Lots of them are only showing posts which make
> > "MOPAR ATF only" nuts look good. Of course that means
> > those forums have only a few posts from this thread.
>
>
>
> Ummm... google groups is a portal giving a really
> crummy interface to usenet.
> --
>


Well, Dr., at last you are within your field.

True as that may be. At least this portal is
not censored by boorish corporate loyalists
masquerading as automotive forum moderators.

Perhaps you have something actually on topic
to share with us today?


> U

My point is not that AMSOIL makes the best ATF.
I would have bought REDLINE C+ if I could found
some for sale.

Really my point is that there are far better
alternatives to overpriced MOPAR ATF +3 and +4,
including Valvoline ATF, REDLINE C+ and Amsoil
ATF.

In addition. I point out that Daimler Chrysler
has been misinforming their customers about
their vehicles transmission fluid requirements.

They have perpetrated this long running hoax.
To keep their profit margin up by causing
their customers to buy only their ATF. To
keep them coming back for parts and service,
which would not have been necessary if their
inferior ATF had not been used, instead of
superior alternatives.

Valvoline, Redline and Amsoil ATF is not
snake oil. Daimler Chrysler's business
ethic certainly is though, and their ATF
+4 semi synthetic, is an inferior product
by design.

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My point is not that AMSOIL makes the best ATF.
I would have bought REDLINE C+ if I could found
some for sale.

Really my point is that there are far better
alternatives to overpriced MOPAR ATF +3 and +4,
including Valvoline ATF, REDLINE C+ and Amsoil
ATF.

In addition. I point out that Daimler Chrysler
has been misinforming their customers about
their vehicles transmission fluid requirements.

They have perpetrated this long running hoax.
To keep their profit margin up by causing
their customers to buy only their ATF. To
keep them coming back for parts and service,
which would not have been necessary if their
inferior ATF had not been used, instead of
superior alternatives.

Valvoline, Redline and Amsoil ATF is not
snake oil. Daimler Chrysler's business
ethic certainly is though, and their ATF
+4 semi synthetic, is an inferior product
by design.

..

Another Pfeifferism of note.



Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> writes:

> > I think Carl moderates a forum somewhere that is what
> > they call a usenet portal and he can block posts there
> > that still show up on Google Groups.

> > No matter. Censorship sucks no matter what. I notice
> > that many automotive forums link to this Google Groups
> > thread. The thing is that lots of them are censored.
> > Lots of them are only showing posts which make
> > "MOPAR ATF only" nuts look good. Of course that means
> > those forums have only a few posts from this thread.

> Ummm... google groups is a portal giving a really
> crummy interface to usenet.
> --

Well, Dr., at last you are within your field.

True as that may be. At least this portal is
not censored by boorish corporate loyalists
masquerading as automotive forum moderators.

Perhaps you have something actually on topic
to share with us today?

Hmmmm.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> writes:
> > Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 wrote:
> > > > ATF +4 is not really a synthetic.
> > > But it is the one and only correct fluid for a lot of
> > > Mopar transmissions.
> > At least he admits MOPAR ATF +4 is not really synthetic.
> Did he ever claim it was a synthetic?
> > <giggle>
> <gaggle>

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation, and making yourself look like an ass.

> > No semi synthetic can work as well as a full synthetic.
> Umm... why not?
> --
> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Now this is interesting.
>
>
> Carl Keehn wrote:
> > "fwd_moparasambuku" > wrote in message
> > lkaboutautos.com...
>
> > Whether you're out of here or not, you're blocked. You come to the
site,
> > spamming and multiposting and then start whining when some respected
posters
> > don't roll over and play dead at your claims.
>
> > Buh Buy
>
> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 wrote:
>
> > This is usenet. There's no such thing as "banning" someone from an
> > unmoderated group such as this one. Grow a brain.
>
>
>
>
> I think Carl moderates a forum somewhere that is what
> they call a usenet portal and he can block posts there
> that still show up on Google Groups.
>
> No matter. Censorship sucks no matter what. I notice
> that many automotive forums link to this Google Groups
> thread. The thing is that lots of them are censored.
> Lots of them are only showing posts which make
> "MOPAR ATF only" nuts look good. Of course that means
> those forums have only a few posts from this thread.
>
> <giggle>


No censorship is involved at all. AS Godlike as I would like to be, I have
no influence over the internet, usenet groups or what any other person does
or does not read. My only power is to ask my newsreader software to not
display postings from selected persons. Since you're so concerned over the
issue, my criteria for blocking comes up when the poster wanders away from
posting on the topic and resorts to personal attacks on those who differ
with him.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Now this is very interesting.
>
>
>
> Daimler Chrysler: Lee Iacocca and Carol Shelby they ain't.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
>
>
> This speaks volumes about their corporate ethic.

How? The dealer lied on credit apps. And DC gets blamed for it! And the
dealer went out of business for being a roach. Even the customers sueing
want out of the lawsuit, because of dealers lies. But you blame DC. Amsoil
snake oil sales merchants are the same!