Time Chain....?

I have an SW2 1999 What is the suggested time to replace the chain...

I have a 100,000 Miles (164,000kms).

I just started getting, what seems to be a valve tick? Oil and all other
fluids are still good.

Thanks for the info

Graham

Not sure on the timing chain service interval is on that engine. Pretty sure
that it is an interference engine - one with minimal piston to valve
clearance. If you get a slip in the timing chain (due to wear and loose
clearance), the piston will likely crash a valve... major headache.
A valve tap is usually caused by a bad lifter. AFIK that engine uses a
hydraulic lash adjuster which may be getting spongy and in need of
replacement. Tap can also be caused by a sticking valve stem.

"Rogers" > wrote in message
gers.com...
>I have an SW2 1999 What is the suggested time to replace the chain...
>
> I have a 100,000 Miles (164,000kms).
>
> I just started getting, what seems to be a valve tick? Oil and all other
> fluids are still good.
>
> Thanks for the info
>
> Graham
>
>
>

Thanks for the tips, I will be opening it up this weekend I hope...See if I
can find anything.

Still if anyone know the suggested changed interval, I would like to know...

Thanks.

"Oppie" > wrote in message
news:1095770004.jOZVi18x53xOuhBtDCtsCQ@teranews...
> Not sure on the timing chain service interval is on that engine. Pretty
sure
> that it is an interference engine - one with minimal piston to valve
> clearance. If you get a slip in the timing chain (due to wear and loose
> clearance), the piston will likely crash a valve... major headache.
> A valve tap is usually caused by a bad lifter. AFIK that engine uses a
> hydraulic lash adjuster which may be getting spongy and in need of
> replacement. Tap can also be caused by a sticking valve stem.
>
> "Rogers" > wrote in message
> gers.com...
> >I have an SW2 1999 What is the suggested time to replace the chain...
> >
> > I have a 100,000 Miles (164,000kms).
> >
> > I just started getting, what seems to be a valve tick? Oil and all other
> > fluids are still good.
> >
> > Thanks for the info
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
>
>

>Not sure on the timing chain service interval is on that engine. Pretty sure
>that it is an interference engine - one with minimal piston to valve
>clearance. If you get a slip in the timing chain (due to wear and loose
>clearance), the piston will likely crash a valve... major headache.
>A valve tap is usually caused by a bad lifter. AFIK that engine uses a
>hydraulic lash adjuster which may be getting spongy and in need of
>replacement. Tap can also be caused by a sticking valve stem.

There is no service interval. The chain is supposed to last the life of the
engine. If it does need to be replaced it will make lots of clattering noise
alerting you to impending doom. Oppie is correct in that it is and interference
engine. If the chain snaps it'll bend the valves.

In article >, bandit2941
@aol.comNHRA says...
> >Not sure on the timing chain service interval is on that engine. Pretty sure
> >that it is an interference engine - one with minimal piston to valve
> >clearance. If you get a slip in the timing chain (due to wear and loose
> >clearance), the piston will likely crash a valve... major headache.
> >A valve tap is usually caused by a bad lifter. AFIK that engine uses a
> >hydraulic lash adjuster which may be getting spongy and in need of
> >replacement. Tap can also be caused by a sticking valve stem.
>
> There is no service interval. The chain is supposed to last the life of the
> engine. If it does need to be replaced it will make lots of clattering noise
> alerting you to impending doom. Oppie is correct in that it is and interference
> engine. If the chain snaps it'll bend the valves.
>

Proper oil changes should prevent that, among other things...

I have a Saturn SW2 1997, I had a click noise at 118,000 km sound like a
valve problem. try this: unplug a spark plug (there is no danger) on
piston #1 listen for the noise, if the noise doesn't change replug #1 and
do the same for #2 etc, if you find one piston where the noise reduce or
desepear it's the pin that hold the piston to the arm that is loose
(sorry my english I am french CA) I had that problem and I remove the
engine from the car and send it to a engine refit center (the oil
consumption problem was solved at the same time).
Hope it's not that problem for your car. the computer was giving me some
code also.

In article <a29a5037224460649f2956d82b588fe6
@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, says...
> I have a Saturn SW2 1997, I had a click noise at 118,000 km sound like a
> valve problem. try this: unplug a spark plug (there is no danger) on
> piston #1 listen for the noise, if the noise doesn't change replug #1 and
> do the same for #2 etc, if you find one piston where the noise reduce or
> desepear it's the pin that hold the piston to the arm that is loose
> (sorry my english I am french CA) I had that problem and I remove the
> engine from the car and send it to a engine refit center (the oil
> consumption problem was solved at the same time).
> Hope it's not that problem for your car. the computer was giving me some
> code also.
>
>

You dont ever remove the spark plug wire unless you "ground" it.
Otherwise you risk damaging the coil(s). The other way of doing this
would be to disconnect a Fuel injectors one at a time. Not really
possible with 60deg motors like the 3.0L however but thats why GM
dealerships have the advantage with their Tech II scantools that can
stop injectors from pulsing. But yeah cutting off a piston one at a time
can pin down a problem.

Think those chains are steel.

"Oppie" > wrote in message
news:1095770004.jOZVi18x53xOuhBtDCtsCQ@teranews...
> Not sure on the timing chain service interval is on that engine. Pretty
> sure that it is an interference engine - one with minimal piston to valve
> clearance. If you get a slip in the timing chain (due to wear and loose
> clearance), the piston will likely crash a valve... major headache.
> A valve tap is usually caused by a bad lifter. AFIK that engine uses a
> hydraulic lash adjuster which may be getting spongy and in need of
> replacement. Tap can also be caused by a sticking valve stem.
>

Well At you great suprise it's the saturn mechanic itself in montreal that
did this, my friend is the service director at saturn and he ask one of
his best mechanic to have a look at my car and that's what he did, and my
neighbour and my oncle that are both mecanics and they did it with no
problem. I am not saying that there is no risk, but if I look at what they
did it seem's like the risk is very low.

Speaking as an electrical engineer and fair mechanic,
removing the wire from a functioning plug does cause excessive high voltage
which can damage the spark coil and more importantly, kill the transistor
that drives the coil. Since the transistor is likely in the ECU, that can be
a big oops!
This is not to say that I have never removed a plug wire from a running
engine either, it is just good to know what the potential damage might be.
The coil drive transistor is actually pretty well protected but having a
plug wire disconnected does cause abnormal stress on the components... and
stuff happens.


"michelst" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> Well At you great suprise it's the saturn mechanic itself in montreal that
> did this, my friend is the service director at saturn and he ask one of
> his best mechanic to have a look at my car and that's what he did, and my
> neighbour and my oncle that are both mecanics and they did it with no
> problem. I am not saying that there is no risk, but if I look at what they
> did it seem's like the risk is very low.
>