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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:59:40 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:52:04 GMT, Mary Pegg
> wrote:
>
>>Andy Turner wrote:
>>
>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>> most people did?
>>
>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>Why yes, I think I would.
>
>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>
>The question remains.

No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.

HTH. HAND.
--
Dean Dark

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 19:17:36 -0500, Dean Dark
> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:59:40 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:52:04 GMT, Mary Pegg
> wrote:
>>
>>>Andy Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>>> most people did?
>>>
>>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>>Why yes, I think I would.
>>
>>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>>
>>The question remains.
>
>No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
>metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.

A crappy "metaphor" (if you want to even give it that much credit),
was all that was provided. It didn't make sense and didn't provide an
answer for the question being asked.


>HTH. HAND.

Ditto.


The question still remains.



andyt

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:57:22 +0000, JAF
> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:59:22 GMT, Andy Turner >
>wrote:
>
>> Generally speaking, people who prefer
>>to top-post do not have this self-centredness and are happy to deal
>>with more than one style of post.
>>
>You stupid ****.

Ah.. the uk.misc bunch and their sweary insults. It doesn't take them
long before they dive to that kind of level. Anyone should ask
themselves, are these the sorts of people you should take notice of
when they whine about the way your posts are laid out? Hardly.

It's amusing though, how in jaf's crazy little world, it's fine to
call someone a "stupid ****", so long as it's laid out in the right
way...


andyt

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:35:10 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:

>>>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>>>> most people did?
>>>>
>>>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>>>Why yes, I think I would.
>>>
>>>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>>>
>>>The question remains.
>>
>>No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
>>metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.
>
>A crappy "metaphor" (if you want to even give it that much credit),
>was all that was provided. It didn't make sense and didn't provide an
>answer for the question being asked.
>
>The question still remains.

She answered the question. If you read carefully above, you can see.
I think it's her metaphor and sarcasm that's confusing you. Her
answer was "no."

Do try to keep up.
--
Dean Dark

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:20:21 -0500, Dean Dark
> wrote:

>On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:35:10 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:
>
>>>>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>>>>> most people did?
>>>>>
>>>>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>>>>Why yes, I think I would.
>>>>
>>>>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>>>>
>>>>The question remains.
>>>
>>>No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
>>>metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.
>>
>>A crappy "metaphor" (if you want to even give it that much credit),
>>was all that was provided. It didn't make sense and didn't provide an
>>answer for the question being asked.
>>
>>The question still remains.
>
>She answered the question. If you read carefully above, you can see.
>I think it's her metaphor and sarcasm that's confusing you.

OK then Dean, if the metaphor works, then parts will relate. I won't
put words in your mouth by suggesting what might relate to what, so
I'll give you the floor to explain which part of the metaphor relates
to which part of the question. And then we'll see just how much sense
the metaphor makes.


> Her answer was "no."

Excellent (though that's the answer I expected of course). Then pray
tell, how the hell does "she" expect people to change their
preferences, if "she" refuses to do that when in other groups? And all
the while, "she", is suggesting that people "inconsiderate"and
"arrogant"?

IME, top-post-whining and rank hypocrisy go hand-in-hand.




>Do try to keep up.

I look forward to your explanation. Then we will see.





andyt

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:57:54 +0000 (UTC), Andy Turner
> wrote:

>On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:20:21 -0500, Dean Dark
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:35:10 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>>>>>> most people did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>>>>>Why yes, I think I would.
>>>>>
>>>>>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>>>>>
>>>>>The question remains.
>>>>
>>>>No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
>>>>metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.
>>>
>>>A crappy "metaphor" (if you want to even give it that much credit),
>>>was all that was provided. It didn't make sense and didn't provide an
>>>answer for the question being asked.
>>>
>>>The question still remains.
>>
>>She answered the question. If you read carefully above, you can see.
>>I think it's her metaphor and sarcasm that's confusing you.
>
>OK then Dean, if the metaphor works, then parts will relate. I won't
>put words in your mouth by suggesting what might relate to what, so
>I'll give you the floor to explain which part of the metaphor relates
>to which part of the question. And then we'll see just how much sense
>the metaphor makes.

The question was:
"would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
most people did?"

Her answer was:
"Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****? Why yes,
I think I would."
>
>> Her answer was "no."
>
>Then pray
>tell, how the hell does "she" expect people to change their
>preferences,

That wasn't the question. What you are doing now is putting up a
straw man, trying to divert attention from the original question (see
above) and the answer given (see above also).

That you don't agree with the answer is evident, but that's no reason
to pretend that an answer wasn't given.

>I look forward to your explanation. Then we will see.

I doubt that you will see anything. You'll probably want to squirm
around forever on this one.
--
Dean Dark

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 06:11:29 -0500, Dean Dark
> wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:57:54 +0000 (UTC), Andy Turner
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:20:21 -0500, Dean Dark
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:35:10 GMT, Andy Turner
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> mean, would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>>>>>>>> most people did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****?
>>>>>>>Why yes, I think I would.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Great. And what relevance does that have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The question remains.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, the question was answered. If you don't understand a simple
>>>>>metaphor then you may need to go back and finish school.
>>>>
>>>>A crappy "metaphor" (if you want to even give it that much credit),
>>>>was all that was provided. It didn't make sense and didn't provide an
>>>>answer for the question being asked.
>>>>
>>>>The question still remains.
>>>
>>>She answered the question. If you read carefully above, you can see.
>>>I think it's her metaphor and sarcasm that's confusing you.
>>
>>OK then Dean, if the metaphor works, then parts will relate. I won't
>>put words in your mouth by suggesting what might relate to what, so
>>I'll give you the floor to explain which part of the metaphor relates
>>to which part of the question. And then we'll see just how much sense
>>the metaphor makes.
>
>The question was:
>"would *you* change to top-posting if you joined a group where
>most people did?"
>
>Her answer was:
>"Would I gag if I plunged my head into a bucketful of ****? Why yes,
>I think I would."

This is clear and was never in question. It's still all quoted above
after all.


>>> Her answer was "no."
>>
>>Then pray tell, how the hell does "she" expect people to change
>>their preferences,
>
>That wasn't the question.

Of course not - it was the point I was moving towards and the reason I
asked the question in the first place. "Do try to keep up".


> What you are doing now is putting up a straw man, trying to
> divert attention from the original question (see
>above) and the answer given (see above also).

LOL! This is in *no* way a strawman, I'm simply moving towards my
*subsequent* point now that you've stepped in to provide an answer to
the original question.

I find it hilarious that you're accusing me of attempting to divert
attention away from the original question & answer when it is *you*
who is avoiding explaining the metaphor in the answer after my (now
repeated), requests to do so! Oh come on!


>That you don't agree with the answer is evident, but that's no reason
>to pretend that an answer wasn't given.

Why don't I agree with the answer?! I asked Mary for an *opinion* on
what "her" behaviour would be. I haven't disagreed with the answer,
I'd only said that the answer given doesn't relate to the question
asked.


>>I look forward to your explanation. Then we will see.
>
>I doubt that you will see anything. You'll probably want to squirm
>around forever on this one.

Well you've not actually provided any explanation. You've neatly
avoiding doing so whilst hilariously accusing me of a strawman...

But the floor is still available if you want to try to explain how the
parts of the metaphor relate to my original question.

Once again, I look forward to your explanation....


andyt

Why don't you lot GROW UP or SHUT UP.

This newsgroup is concerned with BMW and nothing else.

Oldun

Oldun ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

> Why don't you lot GROW UP or SHUT UP.
>
> This newsgroup is concerned with BMW and nothing else.

No, it isn't.

The newsgroup I'm reading this in is concerned with any miscellaneous
topics to do with cars in the UK.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Andy Turner
> wrote:

>Of course not - it was the point I was moving towards and the reason I
>asked the question in the first place. "Do try to keep up".

I have no way of knowing what your fevered mind is "moving towards"
before you have articulated (and I use the term loosely) it. I can
only go by what is actually said, and on *that* score, there was a
simple question (not a "request for an opinion" as you so quaintly put
it) that was answered in a pretty definite manner.

You can go dancing off in all directions now, scattering strawmen
around as you go, but you don't fool me.

>Once again, I look forward to your explanation....

I'm not going to explain it to you yet again. Why don't you just
carry on winging it and hoping that no one will notice?
--
Dean Dark