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> You don't have any proof of this. Your idea of clean oil is oil
>that gets dirty withing a few hundred miles of driving. I EXPERIENCED it. I HAVE PROOF. I KNOW that it burned the same amount, qt/250 mi, on brand new oil! It doesn't matter how new the oil is if your oil control rings are stuck!!! Think about it!! >experienced clean oil, at least not for a relevant amount of time. >Motor oil in a Saturn turns black within only the first 500-1k miles >after an oil change. Plus you have lots of engine deposits that don't >come out with a simple flush or oil change. The only way you will >notice a difference in oil consumption is if you either don't drive it >or install a filter that takes care of the majority of particles that >affect the engine. These particles will also cause the most wear >since they get inbetween moving parts. When oil is dirty, piston >rings expand, valve seals lose their seal. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about since you quote "piston rings expand" when oil gets dirty. > Imagine someone is driving 70 MPH on the freeway. For the Saturn, >this is equivalent to about 2800 rpm. It will take you >3000miles/(70mph) = 42.8 hours to get 3k miles. This means that the >number of revolutions that your engine completes in 3k miles is >(2800rpm) * (60min/hour) * (42.8 hours) = 7.19 million revolutions. >This is assuming that the car travels at a constant speed w/o >hills/accelerating. And your point is? > Even after 10k >miles without oil changes I have not found the slightest oil burning. >It also doesn't give the bad oil smell on hard acceleration and during >bumper-to-bumper traffic when the engine is very hot. > Yeah, and neither does mine. You still haven't proven that it stops oil burning. Why? Because it doesn't. |
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>Wow. I sure wouldn't go 10,000 between changes no matter what. Oil's
>pretty much shot by that point. It's not just an issue of dirty, it's >an issue of it breaking down on a chemical level... > > Thats what I'm saying! I think I said that a few posts up. He said he'd go 25,000 miles. It doesn't matter how dirty the oil is, when the chemical bonds break down. |
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Mark > wrote:
> Dan Duncan > wrote in message >... > > Mark > wrote: > > > So after I had a second engine put in the car I searched for best ways > > > to treat the Saturn. I found out about bypass filters, these > > > secondary filters that are so thick that they remove particles much > > > smaller and more effectively than the OEM filter can. The government > > > did and is doing tests on these filters and find them excellent. I > > > decided to install the Frantz filter made by www.wefilterit.com. Not > > > only does the filter eliminate engine wear providing 2-3x longer > > > engine life (proven by the SAE), it also helps the moving engine > > > components to seat properly and thus will lower oil consumption. In > > > fact my engine now has eliminated the oil burning completely! > > > > Did the new engine burn any oil before you put this kit on it? > The second engine had 40k miles when it was put in and yes it burned a > quart every 2-3k miles. AFAIK, all older unmodified Saturns with the > 1.9L burn oil. Why did you put a 40k mile oil-burning engine in instead of a rebuild? > > > You may > > > not believe me but the only remedy is to prove to yourself by doing a > > > little research on the internet. And if you are so inclined it takes > > > about a couple days of planning and 2-3 days of work. The effort is > > > worth it because in the end you get a cleaner/ quieter running engine > > > and the peace of mind when it stops burning oil. > > > > Where's the evidence this will make an engine STOP burning oil? The > > evidence claims it may keep a good engine from developing an oil > > burning problem. > I have no evidence that it will STOP burning oil, only that it will > help greatly reduce the oil burning. Bull****. You said "In fact my engine now has eliminated the oil burning completely!" and "The effort is worth it because in the end you get a cleaner/ quieter running engine and the peace of mind when it stops burning oil." You made the claim TWICE. -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) http://pcisys.net/~dand # For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they # like. -- Abraham Lincoln |
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