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Old August 30th 06, 08:54 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Xaphan
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I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
in a 1995 Ford Mustang.
now my question is what all will I need for this conversion? as far as a new
computer, rear end, engine mounts etc. p.s. The Mustang has an existing 3.
8L V6 with manual tranny.

thanks, Xaphan

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Old August 30th 06, 10:46 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Nicholas Anthony
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"Xaphan" <u25943@uwe> wrote in message news:65883b2471163@uwe...
> I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
> in a 1995 Ford Mustang.
> now my question is what all will I need for this conversion? as far as a
> new
> computer, rear end, engine mounts etc. p.s. The Mustang has an existing
> 3.
> 8L V6 with manual tranny.
>
> thanks, Xaphan


I am sorry this doesnt answer your question but felt you should think about
this. I wouldnt be surprised if the present 1995 6 cylinder has more
horsepower and torque then the 1982 8 cylinder 302. I also bet you can find
an Eaton supercharger that they put on the 3.8L (such as T-Bird S/C) for
much less money then swapping out engines. Plus you will get better gas,
cheaper insurance, lighter car weight, drive it sooner then replace the rear
or other things at your leisure, and very unique in comparison.

What comes to mind if you were set on swapping to the 302 aside of what you
mentioned would be the oil pan, serpentine belt, and headers. With this swap
would you go fuel injected or make life easier and go carb? What tranny are
you planning on using? 8.8 rear no matter what combo.


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Old August 30th 06, 11:11 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
John S.[_1_]
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Nicholas Anthony wrote:
> "Xaphan" <u25943@uwe> wrote in message news:65883b2471163@uwe...
> > I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
> > in a 1995 Ford Mustang.
> > now my question is what all will I need for this conversion? as far as a
> > new
> > computer, rear end, engine mounts etc. p.s. The Mustang has an existing
> > 3.
> > 8L V6 with manual tranny.
> >
> > thanks, Xaphan

>
> I am sorry this doesnt answer your question but felt you should think about
> this. I wouldnt be surprised if the present 1995 6 cylinder has more
> horsepower and torque then the 1982 8 cylinder 302. I also bet you can find
> an Eaton supercharger that they put on the 3.8L (such as T-Bird S/C) for
> much less money then swapping out engines. Plus you will get better gas,
> cheaper insurance, lighter car weight, drive it sooner then replace the rear
> or other things at your leisure, and very unique in comparison.
>
> What comes to mind if you were set on swapping to the 302 aside of what you
> mentioned would be the oil pan, serpentine belt, and headers. With this swap
> would you go fuel injected or make life easier and go carb? What tranny are
> you planning on using? 8.8 rear no matter what combo.



I agree... sounds like a very expensive swap and for what? I can't
find the exact specs on the 1982 F-150 302 but based on other 302's
(5.0L) in 1982 you're looking at about 150 HP... The 1995 V6 is rated
at 145HP... the 302 will have more torque (probably a lot more torque).

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Old August 30th 06, 01:56 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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In article <65883b2471163@uwe>, Xaphan wrote:
> I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
> in a 1995 Ford Mustang.
> now my question is what all will I need for this conversion? as far as a new
> computer, rear end, engine mounts etc. p.s. The Mustang has an existing 3.
> 8L V6 with manual tranny.


Why would you swap a V6 with more or less modern engine management system
for a smog-gear crippled, carburated, 1982 small block V8? That V6 has
to have a higher net power output than an '82 302.

Far more effective to just use what is available to increase the power of
the 3.8 V6

Then there are the various legalities of puting an '82 engine in a '95
car if you live anywhere with emissions testing.


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Old August 30th 06, 03:50 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
.boB[_1_]
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Xaphan wrote:
> I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
> in a 1995 Ford Mustang.
> now my question is what all will I need for this conversion? as far as a new
> computer, rear end, engine mounts etc. p.s. The Mustang has an existing 3.
> 8L V6 with manual tranny.
>
> thanks, Xaphan
>

This comes up pretty often. There are so many changes to make besides under the
hood. It's a lot of work, a lot of expense, and no return. No buyer with half a
brain would consider your car 5 years from now.
Your plan is to exchange a mediocre engine for a bad one. The early 80's Ford
engines are real dogs. Ford hadn't yet figured out how to make an engine run and
still meet smog requirements. To make decent power you'd also have to change heads,
cam, intake, and carb.
Like was said before, you're much better working the V6 for more power.

The bottom line, it's not a good idea.

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Old August 31st 06, 05:35 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Xaphan via CarKB.com
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Nicholas Anthony wrote:
>> I'm planning on swapping an engine out of a 1982 F150 (302) and putting it
>> in a 1995 Ford Mustang.

>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> thanks, Xaphan

>
>I am sorry this doesnt answer your question but felt you should think about
>this. I wouldnt be surprised if the present 1995 6 cylinder has more
>horsepower and torque then the 1982 8 cylinder 302. I also bet you can find
>an Eaton supercharger that they put on the 3.8L (such as T-Bird S/C) for
>much less money then swapping out engines. Plus you will get better gas,
>cheaper insurance, lighter car weight, drive it sooner then replace the rear
>or other things at your leisure, and very unique in comparison.
>
>What comes to mind if you were set on swapping to the 302 aside of what you
>mentioned would be the oil pan, serpentine belt, and headers. With this swap
>would you go fuel injected or make life easier and go carb? What tranny are
>you planning on using? 8.8 rear no matter what combo.


Well as far as the 3.8 is concerned its pretty much shot- I only paid a total
of fifty dollars for the car.
As of today I was offered a really good price on a 5.0 out of a 1990 lincoln.
would I have a better luck with this or should I just rebuild the 3.8?

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Old August 31st 06, 03:36 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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In article <659311fe84456@uwe>, Xaphan via CarKB.com wrote:

> Well as far as the 3.8 is concerned its pretty much shot- I only paid a total
> of fifty dollars for the car.
> As of today I was offered a really good price on a 5.0 out of a 1990 lincoln.
> would I have a better luck with this or should I just rebuild the 3.8?


Now that's an entirely different story. The problem with a 1990 5.0 is
that I believe the intake runners are too tall to clear the SN95 hood.
Other than that I don't believe there are any negatives to using that
engine.

This is a much more doable situation... However it is still a 6 to 8
conversion with all the pains that go with it.


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Old August 31st 06, 08:54 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Nicholas Anthony
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article <659311fe84456@uwe>, Xaphan via CarKB.com wrote:
>
>> Well as far as the 3.8 is concerned its pretty much shot- I only paid a
>> total
>> of fifty dollars for the car.
>> As of today I was offered a really good price on a 5.0 out of a 1990
>> lincoln.
>> would I have a better luck with this or should I just rebuild the 3.8?

>
> Now that's an entirely different story. The problem with a 1990 5.0 is
> that I believe the intake runners are too tall to clear the SN95 hood.
> Other than that I don't believe there are any negatives to using that
> engine.
>
> This is a much more doable situation... However it is still a 6 to 8
> conversion with all the pains that go with it.


Depends on what Lincoln also. Aside of the Mark VII LSC again its not worth
it. I believe the base 5.0 was about 175hp vs Mustang/ LSC 225hp. I bet you
can find a really nice 3.8 and Eaton S/C that came on the T-Birds for dirt
cheap. They were rated quite nicely at 230hp and over 330tq if I remember
correctly, not to shabby at all. Plus you are very unique and will perhaps
be a trend setter answering questions for many others that want to do the
same.




 




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