Changing/flushing antifreeze Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.

Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.

It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.

I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.

The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.

I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.

Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
filled the radiator.

Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.

I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
it?)

After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.

Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?


There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
drive over that.

I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.


P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
does?


Thanks.

mm

its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would
have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the coolant
out of the engine myself.


"mm" > wrote in message
...
> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>
> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>
> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>
> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>
> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>
> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
> filled the radiator.
>
> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>
> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
> it?)
>
> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>
> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>
>
> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
> drive over that.
>
> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>
>
> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
> does?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> mm

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
wrote:

>its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
>something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would

I don't want to use chemicals, which might cause the radiator to start
leaking again, I just want to use running water to get as much crud
out of the engine and especially the heater core as possible. If the
thermostat is in there, it will be closed because the water from the
garden faucet is cold. Even if I ran hot water from the kitchen sink,
it's only about 140 and the thermostat fully opens at 185, or in my
case, 195.

>have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the coolant
>out of the engine myself.

I don't understand, "got the rest out of the engine myself". Myself?
How?
>
>
>"mm" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>>
>> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>>
>> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>>
>> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>>
>> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>>
>> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>> filled the radiator.
>>
>> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>>
>> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>> it?)
>>
>> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>>
>> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>>
>>
>> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>> drive over that.
>>
>> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>>
>>
>> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>> does?
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> mm
>

there should be a drain plug or petcock on the block down low on one side or
the other.


they also sell flush kits that you connect into your heater hose to attach
your garden hose, so you can flush the heater core.





"mm" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
> wrote:
>
>>its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
>>something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would
>
> I don't want to use chemicals, which might cause the radiator to start
> leaking again, I just want to use running water to get as much crud
> out of the engine and especially the heater core as possible. If the
> thermostat is in there, it will be closed because the water from the
> garden faucet is cold. Even if I ran hot water from the kitchen sink,
> it's only about 140 and the thermostat fully opens at 185, or in my
> case, 195.
>
>>have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the
>>coolant
>>out of the engine myself.
>
> I don't understand, "got the rest out of the engine myself". Myself?
> How?
>>
>>
>>"mm" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>>> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>>>
>>> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>>> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>>>
>>> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>>>
>>> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>>>
>>> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>>> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>>> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>>> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>>> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>>>
>>> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>>> filled the radiator.
>>>
>>> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>>> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>>>
>>> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>>> it?)
>>>
>>> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>>>
>>> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>>> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>>> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>>>
>>>
>>> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>>> drive over that.
>>>
>>> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>>> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>>> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>>> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>>> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>>> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>>> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>>> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>>> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>>> does?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> mm
>>
>

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:14:15 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
wrote:

>there should be a drain plug or petcock on the block down low on one side or
>the other.

I see. Thanks. I'll look.

But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
removing the radiator petcock. Most of the engine is higher than
that, right, and water seeks its own level. So shouldn't it flow
through the lower radiator hose, into the radiator, and out the
petcock opening? How could it not do that?
>
>
>they also sell flush kits that you connect into your heater hose to attach
>your garden hose, so you can flush the heater core.

That would be good. I'm still looking for the heater hoses! I have a
shop manual around here some place.

Mike

>
>
>
>"mm" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
>>>something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would
>>
>> I don't want to use chemicals, which might cause the radiator to start
>> leaking again, I just want to use running water to get as much crud
>> out of the engine and especially the heater core as possible. If the
>> thermostat is in there, it will be closed because the water from the
>> garden faucet is cold. Even if I ran hot water from the kitchen sink,
>> it's only about 140 and the thermostat fully opens at 185, or in my
>> case, 195.
>>
>>>have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the
>>>coolant
>>>out of the engine myself.
>>
>> I don't understand, "got the rest out of the engine myself". Myself?
>> How?
>>>
>>>
>>>"mm" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>>>> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>>>>
>>>> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>>>> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>>>>
>>>> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>>>>
>>>> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>>>>
>>>> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>>>> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>>>> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>>>> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>>>> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>>>>
>>>> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>>>> filled the radiator.
>>>>
>>>> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>>>> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>>>>
>>>> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>>>> it?)
>>>>
>>>> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>>>>
>>>> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>>>> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>>>> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>>>> drive over that.
>>>>
>>>> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>>>> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>>>> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>>>> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>>>> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>>>> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>>>> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>>>> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>>>> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>>>> does?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> mm
>>>
>>
>

"mm" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:14:15 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
> wrote:
>
>>there should be a drain plug or petcock on the block down low on one side
>>or
>>the other.
>
> I see. Thanks. I'll look.
>
> But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
> removing the radiator petcock. Most of the engine is higher than
> that, right, and water seeks its own level. So shouldn't it flow
> through the lower radiator hose, into the radiator, and out the
> petcock opening? How could it not do that?


On a "normal" engine it would but IIRC on a Mitsubishi 3.0 the water pump is
driven by the timing belt and the lower rad hose goes to a pipe that runs
down the valley between the heads below the intake manifold hence it is up
higher than the block water jackets and would prevent a full drain.

"But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
removing the radiator petcock."

a lot of times your water jackets in the block sit lower than your water
pump so it will drain down to the level of the water pump/lower radiator
hose and you wont get the rest. it just depends on the block you have and
the drain location.

"mm" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:14:15 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
> wrote:
>
>>there should be a drain plug or petcock on the block down low on one side
>>or
>>the other.
>
> I see. Thanks. I'll look.
>
> But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
> removing the radiator petcock. Most of the engine is higher than
> that, right, and water seeks its own level. So shouldn't it flow
> through the lower radiator hose, into the radiator, and out the
> petcock opening? How could it not do that?
>>
>>
>>they also sell flush kits that you connect into your heater hose to attach
>>your garden hose, so you can flush the heater core.
>
> That would be good. I'm still looking for the heater hoses! I have a
> shop manual around here some place.
>
> Mike
>
>>
>>
>>
>>"mm" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
>>>>something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would
>>>
>>> I don't want to use chemicals, which might cause the radiator to start
>>> leaking again, I just want to use running water to get as much crud
>>> out of the engine and especially the heater core as possible. If the
>>> thermostat is in there, it will be closed because the water from the
>>> garden faucet is cold. Even if I ran hot water from the kitchen sink,
>>> it's only about 140 and the thermostat fully opens at 185, or in my
>>> case, 195.
>>>
>>>>have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the
>>>>coolant
>>>>out of the engine myself.
>>>
>>> I don't understand, "got the rest out of the engine myself". Myself?
>>> How?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"mm" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>>>>> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>>>>> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>>>>>
>>>>> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>>>>> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>>>>> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>>>>> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>>>>> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>>>>> filled the radiator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>>>>> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>>>>>
>>>>> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>>>>> it?)
>>>>>
>>>>> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>>>>> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>>>>> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>>>>> drive over that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>>>>> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>>>>> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>>>>> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>>>>> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>>>>> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>>>>> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>>>>> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>>>>> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>>>>> does?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> mm
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:18:58 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
wrote:

>"But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
>removing the radiator petcock."
>
>a lot of times your water jackets in the block sit lower than your water
>pump so it will drain down to the level of the water pump/lower radiator
>hose and you wont get the rest. it just depends on the block you have and
>the drain location.

Thanks, Daniel, Rob. I guess I really have to find that manual. I
look whenever I walk around the house, but that's not enough. I'm
going to have to dig. I may have to blast.

>"mm" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:14:15 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>there should be a drain plug or petcock on the block down low on one side
>>>or
>>>the other.
>>
>> I see. Thanks. I'll look.
>>
>> But how come I didn't get most of the fluid out of the block by
>> removing the radiator petcock. Most of the engine is higher than
>> that, right, and water seeks its own level. So shouldn't it flow
>> through the lower radiator hose, into the radiator, and out the
>> petcock opening? How could it not do that?
>>>
>>>
>>>they also sell flush kits that you connect into your heater hose to attach
>>>your garden hose, so you can flush the heater core.
>>
>> That would be good. I'm still looking for the heater hoses! I have a
>> shop manual around here some place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"mm" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0500, "Rob" <nobody >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>its always good to change the thermostat every couple years, or if
>>>>>something's wrong with it. never heard of pulling it to flush. i would
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to use chemicals, which might cause the radiator to start
>>>> leaking again, I just want to use running water to get as much crud
>>>> out of the engine and especially the heater core as possible. If the
>>>> thermostat is in there, it will be closed because the water from the
>>>> garden faucet is cold. Even if I ran hot water from the kitchen sink,
>>>> it's only about 140 and the thermostat fully opens at 185, or in my
>>>> case, 195.
>>>>
>>>>>have opened the petcock on the engine block and got the rest of the
>>>>>coolant
>>>>>out of the engine myself.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand, "got the rest out of the engine myself". Myself?
>>>> How?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"mm" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>>>>>> anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>>>>>> cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>>>>>> in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>>>>>> a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>>>>>> drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>>>>>> radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>>>>>> filled the radiator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>>>>>> can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>>>>>> it?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>>>>>> when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>>>>>> it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>>>>>> drive over that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>>>>>> said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>>>>>> thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>>>>>> flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>>>>>> help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>>>>>> thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>>>>>> flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>>>>>> brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>>>>>> nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>>>>>> does?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:55:05 -0500, mm >
wrote:

>
>Thanks, Daniel, Rob. I guess I really have to find that manual.

To fully understand what you both said.

> I
>look whenever I walk around the house, but that's not enough. I'm
>going to have to dig. I may have to blast.

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:45:52 -0500, mm >
wrote:

>Well, I can't believe it but I've forgotten how to change the
>anti-freeze. This must be the start of Oldtimers Disease.
>
>It was 70 degrees in Baltimore yesterday, and a good day to flush the
>cooling system. Lebaron, ''95, 3.0L V6.
>
>I ran the engine until it was hot or at least warm.
>
>The petcock opens with no tools -- that's nice.
>
>I drained the coolant into one of those rectangular bottles that lie
>in their side; I removed the thermostat and flushed for 5 minutes with
>a garden hose in the radiator neck until the water ran clear. Let it
>drain, put back the petcock, put back the thermostat, filled the
>radiator with 50/50, but it took less than a gallon.
>
>Ran the engine a minute or two until I realized that maybe I had only
>filled the radiator.
>
>Went to see if I could add more coolant, but I couldn't. Usually I
>can keep adding and adding, even when it starts way above empty.
>
>I added about 3 quarts, when the capacity is 8. (That's right, isn't
>it?)
>
>After sitting all night, today I could add a 3 or 4 ounces more.
>
>Could it be I never drained the engine after all? How could that be
>when I removed the thermostat and the petcock and after flushing let
>it sit until nothing was coming out of the petcock hole.?
>
>
>There's a big chuckhole in the road near here. Maybe I should go
>drive over that.
>
>I found a lot of webpages about changing antifreeze, and all but one
>said nothing about the thermostat, not even to consider changing the
>thermostat when changing the antifreeze. Lots of webpages about
>flushing the engine and not a one about removing the thermostat to
>help this. Even though one page went into the fact that the
>thermostat closes when it's cold. -- They all seemed to talk about
>flushing the radiator and not about flushing the engine.
>
>
>P.S. I also got a Felpro gasket for the thermostat and it has a
>brown plastic ring on the inside circumference on one side. But
>nothing on the card to say which side of the gasket goes up. Which
>does?
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>mm


Stop a just about any auto parts store and get a
Prestone Flush-n-Fill kit. Permanently nstalls in a few minutes,
use whenever you need a complete flush. This system has been around
for decades. Works well, lasts a long time.
http://www.prestone.com/products/print/461?popup=1