1998 Ford Mustang Cobra Signature Series.

How often are you cleaning the filter? K&N service specs indicate a 50-100K
miles cleaning interval depending upon driving conditions.

--
Richard

'94 GT 'vert
Under Drive Pulleys
Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
High Stall Torque Converter
4:10 Gears
Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
FRPP M5400-A Suspension
Laser Red

"SVTKate" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> Good Job RIchard.
> Thanks!
>
> That reminds me, time to clean my K&N again.. and my MAF while I'm in
there
> *sigh*
> wht a pain in the arse.
>
> Kate
>
> "Richard" > wrote in message
> news:LMwme.1513389$Xk.241409@pd7tw3no...
> |I emailed them and they do require oil.
> |
> | --
> | Richard
> |
> |
> | "SVTKate" > wrote in message
> | ink.net...
> | > I went to their website,
> | > it's so small I had trouble reading it.
> | > Looks like shrunken PDFs.
> | >
> | > So I dunno.
> | >
> | > Damned if I am going to change my monitor settings and hunt down my
> | glasses
> | > just to read a website on something I am not planning to buy for
awhile.
> | > If ever.
> | >
> | > Maybe they DO have a dry one
> | > You could ask ol Bill S. (check the big block group) which one he was
> | > talking about
> | >
> | > Kate
> | >
> | >
> | > "Richard" > wrote in message
> | > news:mBQke.1473577$6l.54460@pd7tw2no...
> | > | That's interesting. I also was certain that it was a dry filter and
> | that's
> | > | why it was recommended. Are there two types?
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Richard
> | > |
> | > | '94 GT 'vert
> | > | Under Drive Pulleys
> | > | Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
> | > | High Stall Torque Converter
> | > | 4:10 Gears
> | > | Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
> | > | FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
> | > | FRPP M5400-A Suspension
> | > | Laser Red
> | > |
> | > | "SVTKate" > wrote in message
> | > | ink.net...
> | > | >
> | > | > "WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in message
> | > | > news:IADke.22434$iU.9197@lakeread05...
> | > | > | SVTKate wrote:
> | > | > | > A guy that really knows his stuff used to post in here
> recommended
> | a
> | > | > Green
> | > | > | > Filter.
> | > | > | > They cost about the same as a K&N, I think I will eventually
> make
> | > the
> | > | > | > switch.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Doesn't the green one use oil also?
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > Actually, I didn't realize this before you ask.
> | > | > I went to their VERY slow loading website and wandered till I
found
> | it.
> | > | >
> | > | > Yup, it DOES use oil
> | > | >
> | > | > So then, why do you suppose ol' whatsisname recommended it over
the
> | K&N
> | > ??
> | > | >
> | > | > Kate
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

Aboout once a year...
but it's been a little over that, though I have only put about 9000 miles on
it in the last year and a half... most of that because we moved across the
country and I drove it.

I just think it should be done, because it MUST get dirty.

Kate


"Richard" > wrote in message
news:%2Mme.1522626$6l.1242262@pd7tw2no...
| How often are you cleaning the filter? K&N service specs indicate a
50-100K
| miles cleaning interval depending upon driving conditions.
|
| --
| Richard
|
| '94 GT 'vert
| Under Drive Pulleys
| Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
| High Stall Torque Converter
| 4:10 Gears
| Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
| FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
| FRPP M5400-A Suspension
| Laser Red
|
| "SVTKate" > wrote in message
| hlink.net...
| > Good Job RIchard.
| > Thanks!
| >
| > That reminds me, time to clean my K&N again.. and my MAF while I'm in
| there
| > *sigh*
| > wht a pain in the arse.
| >
| > Kate
| >
| > "Richard" > wrote in message
| > news:LMwme.1513389$Xk.241409@pd7tw3no...
| > |I emailed them and they do require oil.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Richard
| > |
| > |
| > | "SVTKate" > wrote in message
| > | ink.net...
| > | > I went to their website,
| > | > it's so small I had trouble reading it.
| > | > Looks like shrunken PDFs.
| > | >
| > | > So I dunno.
| > | >
| > | > Damned if I am going to change my monitor settings and hunt down my
| > | glasses
| > | > just to read a website on something I am not planning to buy for
| awhile.
| > | > If ever.
| > | >
| > | > Maybe they DO have a dry one
| > | > You could ask ol Bill S. (check the big block group) which one he
was
| > | > talking about
| > | >
| > | > Kate
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Richard" > wrote in message
| > | > news:mBQke.1473577$6l.54460@pd7tw2no...
| > | > | That's interesting. I also was certain that it was a dry filter
and
| > | that's
| > | > | why it was recommended. Are there two types?
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Richard
| > | > |
| > | > | '94 GT 'vert
| > | > | Under Drive Pulleys
| > | > | Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
| > | > | High Stall Torque Converter
| > | > | 4:10 Gears
| > | > | Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
| > | > | FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
| > | > | FRPP M5400-A Suspension
| > | > | Laser Red
| > | > |
| > | > | "SVTKate" > wrote in message
| > | > | ink.net...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in message
| > | > | > news:IADke.22434$iU.9197@lakeread05...
| > | > | > | SVTKate wrote:
| > | > | > | > A guy that really knows his stuff used to post in here
| > recommended
| > | a
| > | > | > Green
| > | > | > | > Filter.
| > | > | > | > They cost about the same as a K&N, I think I will eventually
| > make
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > switch.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Doesn't the green one use oil also?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Actually, I didn't realize this before you ask.
| > | > | > I went to their VERY slow loading website and wandered till I
| found
| > | it.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Yup, it DOES use oil
| > | > | >
| > | > | > So then, why do you suppose ol' whatsisname recommended it over
| the
| > | K&N
| > | > ??
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Kate
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Here's the answer to the FAQ on the K&N site about cleaning


20. How do I know when to clean the filter?

The general rule of thumb is that the filter needs to be cleaned when the
dirt build up gets as thick as the wire mesh. The usual interval is 30,000 -
50,000 miles depending on driving conditions. We recommend that you check
your filter about once a year in normal usage.

Interesting that the sticker that came with my filter made reference to the
50-100K interval. Regardless, cleaning at 9K appears unnecessary unless
extremely dusty conditions prevailed.

I thought that I had read somewhere that the slight buildup of dust actually
helped in the cleaning without affecting air flows. Couldn't find that
reference though.



--
Richard

'94 GT 'vert
Under Drive Pulleys
Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
High Stall Torque Converter
4:10 Gears
Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
FRPP M5400-A Suspension
Laser Red

"SVTKate" > wrote in message
news
> Aboout once a year...
> but it's been a little over that, though I have only put about 9000 miles
on
> it in the last year and a half... most of that because we moved across the
> country and I drove it.
>
> I just think it should be done, because it MUST get dirty.
>
> Kate
>

Here's K&N response to the MAF sensor contamination theory.

7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle's mass air sensor to fail?

At this time, K&N is unaware of any evidence that K&N air filter oil from a
K&N air filter can damage or cause the malfunction of a MAF sensor,
regardless of the make of the vehicle involved. K&N takes seriously any
claim that one of its products is incompatible with its designated
application or can damage or cause the malfunction of any automotive
component. Such claims are thoroughly investigated and, when appropriate,
testing is undertaken to determine their merit. In the case of MAF sensors,
ongoing tests have shown that contamination from K&N air filter oil has not
caused any failures or malfunctions of the MAF sensors in the test vehicles.
K&N is aware that MAF sensors can become contaminated for a variety of
reasons, unrelated to a K&N air filter (such as backfiring, blowby, leaking
airbox or leaking intake duct) and that various methods have been used by
some service departments and repair shops to clean a dirty or contaminated
MAF sensor, such as spraying with an appropriate cleaner. K&N has not
completed any tests as to the efficacy of such a process and, therefore,
does not officially endorse or recommend any cleaning process. However, if
given the choice of either replacing a MAF sensor or cleaning it, K&N
recommends that the consumer ask his or her automotive dealer to attempt
cleaning, before replacement. It should be noted that the presence of
contamination does not mean the contamination was the cause of the MAF
sensor failure. Sensors can fail for electrical or mechanical reasons,
unrelated to any visible contamination.


--
Richard

'94 GT 'vert
Under Drive Pulleys
Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
High Stall Torque Converter
4:10 Gears
Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
FRPP M5400-A Suspension
Laser Red

"Richard" > wrote in message
news:YdPme.1519709$Xk.138056@pd7tw3no...
> Here's the answer to the FAQ on the K&N site about cleaning
>
>
> 20. How do I know when to clean the filter?
>
> The general rule of thumb is that the filter needs to be cleaned when the
> dirt build up gets as thick as the wire mesh. The usual interval is
30,000 -
> 50,000 miles depending on driving conditions. We recommend that you check
> your filter about once a year in normal usage.
>
> Interesting that the sticker that came with my filter made reference to
the
> 50-100K interval. Regardless, cleaning at 9K appears unnecessary unless
> extremely dusty conditions prevailed.
>
> I thought that I had read somewhere that the slight buildup of dust
actually
> helped in the cleaning without affecting air flows. Couldn't find that
> reference though.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard
>
> '94 GT 'vert
> Under Drive Pulleys
> Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
> High Stall Torque Converter
> 4:10 Gears
> Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
> FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
> FRPP M5400-A Suspension
> Laser Red
>
> "SVTKate" > wrote in message
> news
> > Aboout once a year...
> > but it's been a little over that, though I have only put about 9000
miles
> on
> > it in the last year and a half... most of that because we moved across
the
> > country and I drove it.
> >
> > I just think it should be done, because it MUST get dirty.
> >
> > Kate
> >
>
>

Well, I think that they are full of it.

Common sense will dictate that the MAF will get some of the oil, even if a
microscopic amount from the air flowing through the filter.
Also... seriously Richard...
would you REALLY wait till your air cleaner got that dirty to clean it?

I keep my engine compartment spic & span, I'm sure not going to let the
innards of my engine get dirty if all it takes ia half an hour to clean a
filter.
I have allot invested in this car, I want it to be good for as long as
possible.

Your mileage may vary.

Thanks for the info, I had read most of it before.
I'm just kind of a real stickler for maintenance.

Kate


"Richard" > wrote in message
news:2nQme.1520055$Xk.635491@pd7tw3no...
| Here's K&N response to the MAF sensor contamination theory.
|
| 7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle's mass air sensor to fail?
|
| At this time, K&N is unaware of any evidence that K&N air filter oil from
a
| K&N air filter can damage or cause the malfunction of a MAF sensor,
| regardless of the make of the vehicle involved. K&N takes seriously any
| claim that one of its products is incompatible with its designated
| application or can damage or cause the malfunction of any automotive
| component. Such claims are thoroughly investigated and, when appropriate,
| testing is undertaken to determine their merit. In the case of MAF
sensors,
| ongoing tests have shown that contamination from K&N air filter oil has
not
| caused any failures or malfunctions of the MAF sensors in the test
vehicles.
| K&N is aware that MAF sensors can become contaminated for a variety of
| reasons, unrelated to a K&N air filter (such as backfiring, blowby,
leaking
| airbox or leaking intake duct) and that various methods have been used by
| some service departments and repair shops to clean a dirty or contaminated
| MAF sensor, such as spraying with an appropriate cleaner. K&N has not
| completed any tests as to the efficacy of such a process and, therefore,
| does not officially endorse or recommend any cleaning process. However, if
| given the choice of either replacing a MAF sensor or cleaning it, K&N
| recommends that the consumer ask his or her automotive dealer to attempt
| cleaning, before replacement. It should be noted that the presence of
| contamination does not mean the contamination was the cause of the MAF
| sensor failure. Sensors can fail for electrical or mechanical reasons,
| unrelated to any visible contamination.
|
|
| --
| Richard
|
| '94 GT 'vert
| Under Drive Pulleys
| Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
| High Stall Torque Converter
| 4:10 Gears
| Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
| FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
| FRPP M5400-A Suspension
| Laser Red
|
| "Richard" > wrote in message
| news:YdPme.1519709$Xk.138056@pd7tw3no...
| > Here's the answer to the FAQ on the K&N site about cleaning
| >
| >
| > 20. How do I know when to clean the filter?
| >
| > The general rule of thumb is that the filter needs to be cleaned when
the
| > dirt build up gets as thick as the wire mesh. The usual interval is
| 30,000 -
| > 50,000 miles depending on driving conditions. We recommend that you
check
| > your filter about once a year in normal usage.
| >
| > Interesting that the sticker that came with my filter made reference to
| the
| > 50-100K interval. Regardless, cleaning at 9K appears unnecessary unless
| > extremely dusty conditions prevailed.
| >
| > I thought that I had read somewhere that the slight buildup of dust
| actually
| > helped in the cleaning without affecting air flows. Couldn't find that
| > reference though.
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > Richard
| >
| > '94 GT 'vert
| > Under Drive Pulleys
| > Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
| > High Stall Torque Converter
| > 4:10 Gears
| > Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
| > FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
| > FRPP M5400-A Suspension
| > Laser Red
| >
| > "SVTKate" > wrote in message
| > news | > > Aboout once a year...
| > > but it's been a little over that, though I have only put about 9000
| miles
| > on
| > > it in the last year and a half... most of that because we moved across
| the
| > > country and I drove it.
| > >
| > > I just think it should be done, because it MUST get dirty.
| > >
| > > Kate
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

Well no I wouldn't let mine get that dirty. However, getting dirty does not
mean that you are letting the innards of your engine get dirty. A dirty
filter can/will restrict the air flow and there is where you lose power and
fuel economy. I suspect that a dirty filter will give you cleaner air but
less of it. As far as the MAF is concerned, all I wanted to point out was
that a miniscule amount of filter oil should not affect its performance.
Now, how do you clean and dry your air filter in 30 minutes?

--
Richard

'94 GT 'vert
Under Drive Pulleys
Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
High Stall Torque Converter
4:10 Gears
Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
FRPP M5400-A Suspension
Laser Red

"SVTKate" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Well, I think that they are full of it.
>
> Common sense will dictate that the MAF will get some of the oil, even if a
> microscopic amount from the air flowing through the filter.
> Also... seriously Richard...
> would you REALLY wait till your air cleaner got that dirty to clean it?
>
> I keep my engine compartment spic & span, I'm sure not going to let the
> innards of my engine get dirty if all it takes ia half an hour to clean a
> filter.
> I have allot invested in this car, I want it to be good for as long as
> possible.
>
> Your mileage may vary.
>
> Thanks for the info, I had read most of it before.
> I'm just kind of a real stickler for maintenance.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Richard" > wrote in message
> news:2nQme.1520055$Xk.635491@pd7tw3no...
> | Here's K&N response to the MAF sensor contamination theory.
> |
> | 7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle's mass air sensor to fail?
> |
> | At this time, K&N is unaware of any evidence that K&N air filter oil
from
> a
> | K&N air filter can damage or cause the malfunction of a MAF sensor,
> | regardless of the make of the vehicle involved. K&N takes seriously any
> | claim that one of its products is incompatible with its designated
> | application or can damage or cause the malfunction of any automotive
> | component. Such claims are thoroughly investigated and, when
appropriate,
> | testing is undertaken to determine their merit. In the case of MAF
> sensors,
> | ongoing tests have shown that contamination from K&N air filter oil has
> not
> | caused any failures or malfunctions of the MAF sensors in the test
> vehicles.
> | K&N is aware that MAF sensors can become contaminated for a variety of
> | reasons, unrelated to a K&N air filter (such as backfiring, blowby,
> leaking
> | airbox or leaking intake duct) and that various methods have been used
by
> | some service departments and repair shops to clean a dirty or
contaminated
> | MAF sensor, such as spraying with an appropriate cleaner. K&N has not
> | completed any tests as to the efficacy of such a process and, therefore,
> | does not officially endorse or recommend any cleaning process. However,
if
> | given the choice of either replacing a MAF sensor or cleaning it, K&N
> | recommends that the consumer ask his or her automotive dealer to attempt
> | cleaning, before replacement. It should be noted that the presence of
> | contamination does not mean the contamination was the cause of the MAF
> | sensor failure. Sensors can fail for electrical or mechanical reasons,
> | unrelated to any visible contamination.
> |
> |
> | --
> | Richard
> |
> | '94 GT 'vert
> | Under Drive Pulleys
> | Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
> | High Stall Torque Converter
> | 4:10 Gears
> | Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
> | FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
> | FRPP M5400-A Suspension
> | Laser Red
> |
> | "Richard" > wrote in message
> | news:YdPme.1519709$Xk.138056@pd7tw3no...
> | > Here's the answer to the FAQ on the K&N site about cleaning
> | >
> | >
> | > 20. How do I know when to clean the filter?
> | >
> | > The general rule of thumb is that the filter needs to be cleaned when
> the
> | > dirt build up gets as thick as the wire mesh. The usual interval is
> | 30,000 -
> | > 50,000 miles depending on driving conditions. We recommend that you
> check
> | > your filter about once a year in normal usage.
> | >
> | > Interesting that the sticker that came with my filter made reference
to
> | the
> | > 50-100K interval. Regardless, cleaning at 9K appears unnecessary
unless
> | > extremely dusty conditions prevailed.
> | >
> | > I thought that I had read somewhere that the slight buildup of dust
> | actually
> | > helped in the cleaning without affecting air flows. Couldn't find that
> | > reference though.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Richard
> | >
> | > '94 GT 'vert
> | > Under Drive Pulleys
> | > Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit
> | > High Stall Torque Converter
> | > 4:10 Gears
> | > Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
> | > FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
> | > FRPP M5400-A Suspension
> | > Laser Red
> | >
> | > "SVTKate" > wrote in message
> | > news > | > > Aboout once a year...
> | > > but it's been a little over that, though I have only put about 9000
> | miles
> | > on
> | > > it in the last year and a half... most of that because we moved
across
> | the
> | > > country and I drove it.
> | > >
> | > > I just think it should be done, because it MUST get dirty.
> | > >
> | > > Kate
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

| Now, how do you clean and dry your air filter in 30 minutes?


OHhhhh...
I never said it DRIES that fast LOL
Drives me crazy! But I do use the air compressor to blow allot of the water
out of it.

Kate

Now you may indeed have dirtier innards. FAQ #22.

22. Can I use compressed air to dry the filter faster?

No, this can blow the filter material right out of the wire mesh and ruin
the filter. Pick a nice day to clean the filter and let it dry naturally.

--
Richard


"SVTKate" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> | Now, how do you clean and dry your air filter in 30 minutes?
>
>
> OHhhhh...
> I never said it DRIES that fast LOL
> Drives me crazy! But I do use the air compressor to blow allot of the
water
> out of it.
>
> Kate
>
>
>

I don't point it right IN the filter..
You can use air and not destroy stuff.

oh lord, you are taking me too literally to the extreme.

I believe I know what I am doing, ok.. how's that?

I have not ****ed anything up and I am not GOING to **** anything up
and if I do then I will be sure to keep my mouth shut so that you cannot say
I told you so..

ok???

quit pickin on me or I am gonna give you girl cooties!



"Richard" > wrote in message
news:wi%me.1524410$Xk.1020360@pd7tw3no...
| Now you may indeed have dirtier innards. FAQ #22.
|
| 22. Can I use compressed air to dry the filter faster?
|
| No, this can blow the filter material right out of the wire mesh and ruin
| the filter. Pick a nice day to clean the filter and let it dry naturally.
|
| --
| Richard
|
|
| "SVTKate" > wrote in message
| link.net...
| >
| > | Now, how do you clean and dry your air filter in 30 minutes?
| >
| >
| > OHhhhh...
| > I never said it DRIES that fast LOL
| > Drives me crazy! But I do use the air compressor to blow allot of the
| water
| > out of it.
| >
| > Kate
| >
| >
| >
|
|

"SVTKate" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> quit pickin on me or I am gonna give you girl cooties!
>
>
OK, OK you win. YUCK, girl cooties.

Richard