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Old November 5th 04, 04:18 PM
John Hupp
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Default New valve body part number for infamous transaxle problems at twice the cost

NEWS FLASH! For 1990's Saturns (certainly '95 plus or minus a couple
years) that shift into reverse slowly or slam when they do, or for
Saturns that may not shift into upper gears when warm (often setting a
diagnostic trouble code and lighting the Service Engine Soon
indicator), the most common solution has been to replace the upper
valve body. The old upper valve body part number was 21005813 and
commonly cost close to $200, but some dealerships that offered their
parts close to cost once sold them for around $100.

A couple months ago Saturn withdrew the old part number and is now
offering a successor, part number 21009428, but it is the entire valve
body, upper and lower, complete with actuators. But hold onto your
hats--the new solution costs $500-600!! Individual actuators are
still available at around $60 apiece, and the bus plate at around
$120.

It seems that Saturn is still wrestling with the infamous transaxle
problems and, except where actuator or bus plate problems can be
cleanly diagnosed, will now force a replacement of the whole valve
body to help assure that all possible causes are covered.

Anyone have more information on this development, or have any
alternatives to offer in light of it?

--John
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Old November 5th 04, 04:45 PM
Blah blah
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In article >,
says...
> NEWS FLASH! For 1990's Saturns (certainly '95 plus or minus a couple
> years) that shift into reverse slowly or slam when they do, or for
> Saturns that may not shift into upper gears when warm (often setting a
> diagnostic trouble code and lighting the Service Engine Soon
> indicator), the most common solution has been to replace the upper
> valve body. The old upper valve body part number was 21005813 and
> commonly cost close to $200, but some dealerships that offered their
> parts close to cost once sold them for around $100.
>
> A couple months ago Saturn withdrew the old part number and is now
> offering a successor, part number 21009428, but it is the entire valve
> body, upper and lower, complete with actuators. But hold onto your
> hats--the new solution costs $500-600!! Individual actuators are
> still available at around $60 apiece, and the bus plate at around
> $120.
>
> It seems that Saturn is still wrestling with the infamous transaxle
> problems and, except where actuator or bus plate problems can be
> cleanly diagnosed, will now force a replacement of the whole valve
> body to help assure that all possible causes are covered.
>
> Anyone have more information on this development, or have any
> alternatives to offer in light of it?
>
> --John



I have yet to see or hear of anyone that has tried this route with a
TAAT but Sonnax makes valve body repair kits for just about every
transmission out there.

http://search.freefind.com/find.html...r&mode=ALL&n=0
&query=TAAT

The cost should be a great deal less with Sonnax. It would be nice if
someone was to take pictures and create a repair guide.



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Old November 5th 04, 09:52 PM
jdoe
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One thing to keep in mind though. THe sonnax repair involves use of a
special "reamer" and it costs as much as a new VB. Unless you're going to do
them all day long it doesn't pay.
Larry
"Blah blah" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> NEWS FLASH! For 1990's Saturns (certainly '95 plus or minus a couple
>> years) that shift into reverse slowly or slam when they do, or for
>> Saturns that may not shift into upper gears when warm (often setting a
>> diagnostic trouble code and lighting the Service Engine Soon
>> indicator), the most common solution has been to replace the upper
>> valve body. The old upper valve body part number was 21005813 and
>> commonly cost close to $200, but some dealerships that offered their
>> parts close to cost once sold them for around $100.
>>
>> A couple months ago Saturn withdrew the old part number and is now
>> offering a successor, part number 21009428, but it is the entire valve
>> body, upper and lower, complete with actuators. But hold onto your
>> hats--the new solution costs $500-600!! Individual actuators are
>> still available at around $60 apiece, and the bus plate at around
>> $120.
>>
>> It seems that Saturn is still wrestling with the infamous transaxle
>> problems and, except where actuator or bus plate problems can be
>> cleanly diagnosed, will now force a replacement of the whole valve
>> body to help assure that all possible causes are covered.
>>
>> Anyone have more information on this development, or have any
>> alternatives to offer in light of it?
>>
>> --John

>
>
> I have yet to see or hear of anyone that has tried this route with a
> TAAT but Sonnax makes valve body repair kits for just about every
> transmission out there.
>
>
http://search.freefind.com/find.html...r&mode=ALL&n=0
> &query=TAAT
>
> The cost should be a great deal less with Sonnax. It would be nice if
> someone was to take pictures and create a repair guide.
>
>
>



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Old December 8th 04, 04:04 PM
dgharris
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If you don't want to spend the money for the reamers to fix your own valve
body, Omega Machine & Tool, Inc. has them exchange for 125.00

http://www.omegamachine.com/html/Sat...dy_Repair.html

 




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