Misfiring Town and County 3.8L

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:30:58 -0400, "maxpower"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>"flobert" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:42:54 -0400, "maxpower"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> ... unknonw because you put the sig mark before your text...
>>
>> I just calling it as i see it Glenn. btw - thet - on a line marks the
>> start of a sig, so many clients omit what comes after it on a reply.
>> After your text, not before, k?
>
>You lost me here??????
>

Sometimes you've been starting your posts with blank space, and then
just "--" on its own

Those two lines are markers for newsreaders to indicate the start of
the posters sig. So, when you reply, it automatically snips the stuff
off after the --. can make it hard to follow a conversation

i'm going to put it now. if you reply, you shouldn't see anything
after this

--

This is after the line. It will be automatically snipped when you hit
reply

--

"flobert" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:30:58 -0400, "maxpower"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >"flobert" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:42:54 -0400, "maxpower"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> ... unknonw because you put the sig mark before your text...
> >>
> >> I just calling it as i see it Glenn. btw - thet - on a line marks the
> >> start of a sig, so many clients omit what comes after it on a reply.
> >> After your text, not before, k?
> >
> >You lost me here??????
> >
>
> Sometimes you've been starting your posts with blank space, and then
> just "--" on its own
>
> Those two lines are markers for newsreaders to indicate the start of
> the posters sig. So, when you reply, it automatically snips the stuff
> off after the --. can make it hard to follow a conversation
>
> i'm going to put it now. if you reply, you shouldn't see anything
> after this
>
> --
>
> This is after the line. It will be automatically snipped when you hit
> reply
>
Ok gotcha. This Outlook Express that I use has my signature at the top
automatically when I send an e mail. And when I post to the group I just
copy and paste at the bottom and delete it from the top. Sometimes I copy to
much (--) and that is how it gets there. Im gonna work on that!! You keep an
eye out on me and tell me if it gets better...
Thanx

flobert wrote:
> Sometimes you've been starting your posts with blank space, and then
> just "--" on its own
>
> Those two lines are markers for newsreaders to indicate the start of
> the posters sig. So, when you reply, it automatically snips the stuff
> off after the --. can make it hard to follow a conversation
>

For the record, that should be "dash dash space return", not just "dash
dash".

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:13:06 -0400, "maxpower"
> wrote:

as youcan see, you did it again... :--)


maybe you should try another client - i for one love Agenet (and its
free varient, FreeAgent) - i find it much easier to navigate and use.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:00:18 -0400, philthy > wrote:

>i will say it one more time i have since quit working for th stealership and do not
>have access to the techtools dealerconnect online system for tsb's. it's there. i
>did at least 3 a week when it came out after the 2004 model year release and again
>this van in question may or may not fall under the tsb
>and again if Glenn would give me his pass word and sid i could and would easily
>find it since he cannot but so far he has not
>the tsb is pcm part number specific and may not show up as a general tsb but will
>when a reflash is requested using the pcm part number and glen knows what this
>means while others will not

It sounds to me like you don't know what you mean, or talking about.
Is it a TSB, or not. Make up your mind.

>
>flobert wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:45:53 -0400, philthy > wrote:
>>
>> >no, i quit the dealer so i wouldn't misinform them or throw parts at it like
>> >you do.dealers don't pay techs to properly trouble shoot cars esp. dc techs
>> >just swap parts
>> >there is a tsb for a misfire and it was early04 and that van inquestion might
>> >or might not fall under that tsb
>> >give me your pass word to dealerconnect and i will find it for u since u can't
>> >seem to and u know as well as i do the most current flash will more than likely
>> >cover that misfire issue too since the pcm part numbers is the tech tool rule
>> >of thumb so it may not show that one tsb now dan you can oh i'm sorry your
>> >name is glenn but have become as arrogant as him that post has come and gone
>> >and so should you
>>
>> I dunno about anyone else, but I for one am waiting for you to put up,
>> or shut up
>>
>> let me refresh your memory though, in case you're forgotten
>> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:25:56 -0400, philthy > wrote:
>> >seen a alot of the vans do this and there was a tsb that also required a
>> >reflash of the pcm and replacing wires and plugs
>>
>> if you know there's a TSB, then you should be able to find it, so
>> please, back up your claims.
>>
>> I don't know glenn, beyond here. I've had a few problems, and read
>> others problems and he's always been clear, concise, and accurate in
>> his help. For that I thank him. What little i've read of your stuff
>> (this thread0 seems that you like to say stuff with no proof at all.
>> All show and no go, lots of pep, lack of poke, all mouth and no
>> trousers. call it what you will. thats the impression i'm gettng of
>> you
>>
>> >
>> >the more arrogant a man becomes the less he can think
>> >
>> >
>> >maxpower wrote:
>> >
>> >> You cannot reflash a PCM if there is no reflash available!!! When you
>> >> connect to Tech tools and show all available updates...if there is no flash
>> >> for it how can you flash it???? You keep telling people on here there is a
>> >> TSB or a recall out on vehicles that aren't.
>> >> The original poster is asking you for the TSB number and you still haven't
>> >> answered him because there isn't one.
>> >> Is this how you fix cars? shot gun repair?? Misinforming customers??
>> >> Take a deep breath the next time you post and read what you type.
>> >>
>> >> Glenn Beasley
>> >> Chrysler Tech
>> >> "philthy" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > max you are wrong not all tsb applies to all vehicles nor do i think so
>> >> > boy oh boy u are starting to sound alot like stern
>> >> >
>> >> > maxpower wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > "MASSMINI" > wrote in message
>> >> > > ups.com...
>> >> > > > Well I've changed the plugs and wires and they did not solve the
>> >> > > > misfiring problem. Still runs rough and smells funny.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > philthy: Do you happen to know the TSB # that calls for PCM reflash?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > There is no reflash for this model/year, Philthy thinks every TSB
>> >> pertains
>> >> > > to every vehicle. There is no TSB period
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Glenn Beasley
>> >> > > Chrysler Tech
>> >> >

"philthy" > wrote in message
...
> i will say it one more time i have since quit working for th stealership
and do not
> have access to the techtools dealerconnect online system for tsb's. it's
there. i
> did at least 3 a week when it came out after the 2004 model year release
and again
> this van in question may or may not fall under the tsb
> and again if Glenn would give me his pass word and sid i could and would
easily
> find it since he cannot but so far he has not
> the tsb is pcm part number specific and may not show up as a general tsb
but will
> when a reflash is requested using the pcm part number and glen knows what
this
> means while others will not
>
> flobert wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:45:53 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> >
> > >no, i quit the dealer so i wouldn't misinform them or throw parts at it
like
> > >you do.dealers don't pay techs to properly trouble shoot cars esp. dc
techs
> > >just swap parts
> > >there is a tsb for a misfire and it was early04 and that van inquestion
might
> > >or might not fall under that tsb
> > >give me your pass word to dealerconnect and i will find it for u since
u can't
> > >seem to and u know as well as i do the most current flash will more
than likely
> > >cover that misfire issue too since the pcm part numbers is the tech
tool rule
> > >of thumb so it may not show that one tsb now dan you can oh i'm sorry
your
> > >name is glenn but have become as arrogant as him that post has come
and gone
> > >and so should you
> >
> > I dunno about anyone else, but I for one am waiting for you to put up,
> > or shut up
> >
> > let me refresh your memory though, in case you're forgotten
> > On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:25:56 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> > >seen a alot of the vans do this and there was a tsb that also required
a
> > >reflash of the pcm and replacing wires and plugs
> >
> > if you know there's a TSB, then you should be able to find it, so
> > please, back up your claims.
> >
> > I don't know glenn, beyond here. I've had a few problems, and read
> > others problems and he's always been clear, concise, and accurate in
> > his help. For that I thank him. What little i've read of your stuff
> > (this thread0 seems that you like to say stuff with no proof at all.
> > All show and no go, lots of pep, lack of poke, all mouth and no
> > trousers. call it what you will. thats the impression i'm gettng of
> > you
> >
> > >
> > >the more arrogant a man becomes the less he can think
> > >
> > >
> > >maxpower wrote:
> > >
> > >> You cannot reflash a PCM if there is no reflash available!!! When you
> > >> connect to Tech tools and show all available updates...if there is no
flash
> > >> for it how can you flash it???? You keep telling people on here
there is a
> > >> TSB or a recall out on vehicles that aren't.
> > >> The original poster is asking you for the TSB number and you still
haven't
> > >> answered him because there isn't one.
> > >> Is this how you fix cars? shot gun repair?? Misinforming customers??
> > >> Take a deep breath the next time you post and read what you type.
> > >>
> > >> Glenn Beasley
> > >> Chrysler Tech
> > >> "philthy" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > max you are wrong not all tsb applies to all vehicles nor do i
think so
> > >> > boy oh boy u are starting to sound alot like stern
> > >> >
> > >> > maxpower wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > "MASSMINI" > wrote in message
> > >> > > ups.com...
> > >> > > > Well I've changed the plugs and wires and they did not solve
the
> > >> > > > misfiring problem. Still runs rough and smells funny.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > philthy: Do you happen to know the TSB # that calls for PCM
reflash?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > There is no reflash for this model/year, Philthy thinks every TSB
> > >> pertains
> > >> > > to every vehicle. There is no TSB period
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Glenn Beasley
> > >> > > Chrysler Tech
> > >> >
>
There is no reflash period. Ok hold on I will get my pass word and my social
security number also. As soon as I find my credit card I will give you that
too.
Your just to funny !!!

yep just what i thought no balls

maxpower wrote:

> "philthy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > i will say it one more time i have since quit working for th stealership
> and do not
> > have access to the techtools dealerconnect online system for tsb's. it's
> there. i
> > did at least 3 a week when it came out after the 2004 model year release
> and again
> > this van in question may or may not fall under the tsb
> > and again if Glenn would give me his pass word and sid i could and would
> easily
> > find it since he cannot but so far he has not
> > the tsb is pcm part number specific and may not show up as a general tsb
> but will
> > when a reflash is requested using the pcm part number and glen knows what
> this
> > means while others will not
> >
> > flobert wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:45:53 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> > >
> > > >no, i quit the dealer so i wouldn't misinform them or throw parts at it
> like
> > > >you do.dealers don't pay techs to properly trouble shoot cars esp. dc
> techs
> > > >just swap parts
> > > >there is a tsb for a misfire and it was early04 and that van inquestion
> might
> > > >or might not fall under that tsb
> > > >give me your pass word to dealerconnect and i will find it for u since
> u can't
> > > >seem to and u know as well as i do the most current flash will more
> than likely
> > > >cover that misfire issue too since the pcm part numbers is the tech
> tool rule
> > > >of thumb so it may not show that one tsb now dan you can oh i'm sorry
> your
> > > >name is glenn but have become as arrogant as him that post has come
> and gone
> > > >and so should you
> > >
> > > I dunno about anyone else, but I for one am waiting for you to put up,
> > > or shut up
> > >
> > > let me refresh your memory though, in case you're forgotten
> > > On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:25:56 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> > > >seen a alot of the vans do this and there was a tsb that also required
> a
> > > >reflash of the pcm and replacing wires and plugs
> > >
> > > if you know there's a TSB, then you should be able to find it, so
> > > please, back up your claims.
> > >
> > > I don't know glenn, beyond here. I've had a few problems, and read
> > > others problems and he's always been clear, concise, and accurate in
> > > his help. For that I thank him. What little i've read of your stuff
> > > (this thread0 seems that you like to say stuff with no proof at all.
> > > All show and no go, lots of pep, lack of poke, all mouth and no
> > > trousers. call it what you will. thats the impression i'm gettng of
> > > you
> > >
> > > >
> > > >the more arrogant a man becomes the less he can think
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >maxpower wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You cannot reflash a PCM if there is no reflash available!!! When you
> > > >> connect to Tech tools and show all available updates...if there is no
> flash
> > > >> for it how can you flash it???? You keep telling people on here
> there is a
> > > >> TSB or a recall out on vehicles that aren't.
> > > >> The original poster is asking you for the TSB number and you still
> haven't
> > > >> answered him because there isn't one.
> > > >> Is this how you fix cars? shot gun repair?? Misinforming customers??
> > > >> Take a deep breath the next time you post and read what you type.
> > > >>
> > > >> Glenn Beasley
> > > >> Chrysler Tech
> > > >> "philthy" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> > max you are wrong not all tsb applies to all vehicles nor do i
> think so
> > > >> > boy oh boy u are starting to sound alot like stern
> > > >> >
> > > >> > maxpower wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > "MASSMINI" > wrote in message
> > > >> > > ups.com...
> > > >> > > > Well I've changed the plugs and wires and they did not solve
> the
> > > >> > > > misfiring problem. Still runs rough and smells funny.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > philthy: Do you happen to know the TSB # that calls for PCM
> reflash?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > There is no reflash for this model/year, Philthy thinks every TSB
> > > >> pertains
> > > >> > > to every vehicle. There is no TSB period
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Glenn Beasley
> > > >> > > Chrysler Tech
> > > >> >
> >
> There is no reflash period. Ok hold on I will get my pass word and my social
> security number also. As soon as I find my credit card I will give you that
> too.
> Your just to funny !!!

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:55:41 -0400, philthy > wrote:

>yep just what i thought no balls
>
Lets just clarify things.
You say there is a TSB for a reflash. you say its only known about if
you have the car at a dealer, with the car hooked up to the diagnostic
system, and it shows you then? This TSB is so secret, you're the only
person, it seems, to have knowledge of this. You say its there, and
the only way you claim people will know the truth is if maxpower gives
you his confidential works access (which can cost him his job) since
you don't have one.

did I miss anything out here? anyone?

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:35:49 -0400, philthy > wrote:

>do you work for dc or at a dealer???

want my passwords, access, credid card number, SSN, inside leg and 3rd
leg mesurments then instead of max's?

>
>flobert wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:55:41 -0400, philthy > wrote:
>>
>> >yep just what i thought no balls
>> >
>> Lets just clarify things.
>> You say there is a TSB for a reflash. you say its only known about if
>> you have the car at a dealer, with the car hooked up to the diagnostic
>> system, and it shows you then? This TSB is so secret, you're the only
>> person, it seems, to have knowledge of this. You say its there, and
>> the only way you claim people will know the truth is if maxpower gives
>> you his confidential works access (which can cost him his job) since
>> you don't have one.
>>
>> did I miss anything out here? anyone?

"philthy" > wrote in message
...
> yep just what i thought no balls
>
> maxpower wrote:
>
> > "philthy" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > i will say it one more time i have since quit working for th
stealership
> > and do not
> > > have access to the techtools dealerconnect online system for tsb's.
it's
> > there. i
> > > did at least 3 a week when it came out after the 2004 model year
release
> > and again
> > > this van in question may or may not fall under the tsb
> > > and again if Glenn would give me his pass word and sid i could and
would
> > easily
> > > find it since he cannot but so far he has not
> > > the tsb is pcm part number specific and may not show up as a general
tsb
> > but will
> > > when a reflash is requested using the pcm part number and glen knows
what
> > this
> > > means while others will not
> > >
> > > flobert wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:45:53 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >no, i quit the dealer so i wouldn't misinform them or throw parts
at it
> > like
> > > > >you do.dealers don't pay techs to properly trouble shoot cars esp.
dc
> > techs
> > > > >just swap parts
> > > > >there is a tsb for a misfire and it was early04 and that van
inquestion
> > might
> > > > >or might not fall under that tsb
> > > > >give me your pass word to dealerconnect and i will find it for u
since
> > u can't
> > > > >seem to and u know as well as i do the most current flash will more
> > than likely
> > > > >cover that misfire issue too since the pcm part numbers is the tech
> > tool rule
> > > > >of thumb so it may not show that one tsb now dan you can oh i'm
sorry
> > your
> > > > >name is glenn but have become as arrogant as him that post has
come
> > and gone
> > > > >and so should you
> > > >
> > > > I dunno about anyone else, but I for one am waiting for you to put
up,
> > > > or shut up
> > > >
> > > > let me refresh your memory though, in case you're forgotten
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:25:56 -0400, philthy > wrote:
> > > > >seen a alot of the vans do this and there was a tsb that also
required
> > a
> > > > >reflash of the pcm and replacing wires and plugs
> > > >
> > > > if you know there's a TSB, then you should be able to find it, so
> > > > please, back up your claims.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know glenn, beyond here. I've had a few problems, and read
> > > > others problems and he's always been clear, concise, and accurate in
> > > > his help. For that I thank him. What little i've read of your stuff
> > > > (this thread0 seems that you like to say stuff with no proof at all.
> > > > All show and no go, lots of pep, lack of poke, all mouth and no
> > > > trousers. call it what you will. thats the impression i'm gettng of
> > > > you
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >the more arrogant a man becomes the less he can think
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >maxpower wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You cannot reflash a PCM if there is no reflash available!!! When
you
> > > > >> connect to Tech tools and show all available updates...if there
is no
> > flash
> > > > >> for it how can you flash it???? You keep telling people on here
> > there is a
> > > > >> TSB or a recall out on vehicles that aren't.
> > > > >> The original poster is asking you for the TSB number and you
still
> > haven't
> > > > >> answered him because there isn't one.
> > > > >> Is this how you fix cars? shot gun repair?? Misinforming
customers??
> > > > >> Take a deep breath the next time you post and read what you type.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Glenn Beasley
> > > > >> Chrysler Tech
> > > > >> "philthy" > wrote in message
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >> > max you are wrong not all tsb applies to all vehicles nor do i
> > think so
> > > > >> > boy oh boy u are starting to sound alot like stern
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > maxpower wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > "MASSMINI" > wrote in message
> > > > >> > > ups.com...
> > > > >> > > > Well I've changed the plugs and wires and they did not
solve
> > the
> > > > >> > > > misfiring problem. Still runs rough and smells funny.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > philthy: Do you happen to know the TSB # that calls for PCM
> > reflash?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > There is no reflash for this model/year, Philthy thinks every
TSB
> > > > >> pertains
> > > > >> > > to every vehicle. There is no TSB period
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Glenn Beasley
> > > > >> > > Chrysler Tech
> > > > >> >
> > >
> > There is no reflash period. Ok hold on I will get my pass word and my
social
> > security number also. As soon as I find my credit card I will give you
that
> > too.
> > Your just to funny !!!
>

Dirty you didn't answer my question