Tegger's 'Teg needs a cat...

....because the original has a rust hole in it, which has rendered it noisy.


New Honda OEM cats are $1,100, and are discontinued for my car, to boot. I
am therefore reduced to trolling the aftermarket, for which I have a
healthy distrust.

Enquiries at local garages turn up several brands. Good prices all, but no
brands which inspire confidence. Being a twenty first-century kinda guy, I
start looking online. Only to discover those very same sorry brands and not
much else.

However, I do discover a listing that, at least visually, looks
suspiciously like my own OEM cat, he
<http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?Ntt=hon1623&N=0&uts=true>
Check it out. It's a dead-ringer for the OEM cat and lower heat shield.

I had a nice online chat with an sales rep from Auto Parts Warehouse, the
seller of that cat.
A transcript is linked below. It's interesting reading.
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/apw-hon1623-chat-transcript.txt>
"John" is me. "Mari" is the APW rep.

The upshot is that their photo is /highly/ misleading. Deliberately? You
decide.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Looks like you're in for some custom work regardless...

JT

(Who scoffs at CCs)



Tegger wrote:
> ...because the original has a rust hole in it, which has rendered it noisy.
>
>
> New Honda OEM cats are $1,100, and are discontinued for my car, to boot. I
> am therefore reduced to trolling the aftermarket, for which I have a
> healthy distrust.
>
> Enquiries at local garages turn up several brands. Good prices all, but no
> brands which inspire confidence. Being a twenty first-century kinda guy, I
> start looking online. Only to discover those very same sorry brands and not
> much else.
>
> However, I do discover a listing that, at least visually, looks
> suspiciously like my own OEM cat, he
> <http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?Ntt=hon1623&N=0&uts=true>
> Check it out. It's a dead-ringer for the OEM cat and lower heat shield.
>
> I had a nice online chat with an sales rep from Auto Parts Warehouse, the
> seller of that cat.
> A transcript is linked below. It's interesting reading.
> <http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/apw-hon1623-chat-transcript.txt>
> "John" is me. "Mari" is the APW rep.
>
> The upshot is that their photo is /highly/ misleading. Deliberately? You
> decide.
>
>
>

speedy wrote:
> check out summitracing.com
>
> I've gotten converters there for a fraction of the price charged by the
> auto parts stores and have had no problem with them running or quality.
>
> -SP
=====================

I found Summitracing's eBay ads to be somewhat deceptive / misleading
regarding how much they were going to charge for shipping and HANDLING,
and they were useless (when I phoned for clarification (regarding
shipping to Canada).

'Curly'

"Tegger" > wrote
> ...because the original has a rust hole in it, which has
> rendered it noisy.
>
>
> New Honda OEM cats are $1,100, and are discontinued for my
> car, to boot. I
> am therefore reduced to trolling the aftermarket, for
> which I have a
> healthy distrust.
>
> Enquiries at local garages turn up several brands. Good
> prices all, but no
> brands which inspire confidence. Being a twenty
> first-century kinda guy, I
> start looking online. Only to discover those very same
> sorry brands and not
> much else.
>
> However, I do discover a listing that, at least visually,
> looks
> suspiciously like my own OEM cat, he
> <http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?Ntt=hon1623&N=0&uts=true>
> Check it out. It's a dead-ringer for the OEM cat and lower
> heat shield.
>
> I had a nice online chat with an sales rep from Auto Parts
> Warehouse, the
> seller of that cat.
> A transcript is linked below. It's interesting reading.
> <http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/apw-hon1623-chat-transcript.txt>
> "John" is me. "Mari" is the APW rep.
>
> The upshot is that their photo is /highly/ misleading.
> Deliberately? You
> decide.

Sounds like the rep was saying it was just as likely the
second photo she provided you was not quite reflecting what
they sold.

Considered a junkyard cat converter? I don't see them listed
at one of the national U-Pull-It sites. Yet I often see
intact muffler systems on junkyard Hondas.

IIRC it is illegal for junkyards to sell used Catalytic Converters.
At least it is in Canada.

Damned emissions legislation.

I just straight piped my 90 lumina, but that is an entirely different
animal than the teg. Thank god I don't have that car anymore.

t

On Apr 30, 10:22*am, "Elle" > wrote:
> "Tegger" > wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > ...because the original has a rust hole in it, which has
> > rendered it noisy.
>
> > New Honda OEM cats are $1,100, and are discontinued for my
> > car, to boot. I
> > am therefore reduced to trolling the aftermarket, for
> > which I have a
> > healthy distrust.
>
> > Enquiries at local garages turn up several brands. Good
> > prices all, but no
> > brands which inspire confidence. Being a twenty
> > first-century kinda guy, I
> > start looking online. Only to discover those very same
> > sorry brands and not
> > much else.
>
> > However, I do discover a listing that, at least visually,
> > looks
> > suspiciously like my own OEM cat, he
> > <http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?Ntt=hon1623&N=0&uts=true>
> > Check it out. It's a dead-ringer for the OEM cat and lower
> > heat shield.
>
> > I had a nice online chat with an sales rep from Auto Parts
> > Warehouse, the
> > seller of that cat.
> > A transcript is linked below. It's interesting reading.
> > <http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/apw-hon1623-chat-transcript.txt>
> > "John" is me. "Mari" is the APW rep.
>
> > The upshot is that their photo is /highly/ misleading.
> > Deliberately? You
> > decide.
>
> Sounds like the rep was saying it was just as likely the
> second photo she provided you was not quite reflecting what
> they sold.
>
> Considered a junkyard cat converter? I don't see them listed
> at one of the national U-Pull-It sites. Yet I often see
> intact muffler systems on junkyard Hondas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Elle" > wrote in news:y80Sj.7477$DG.4904
@newsfe10.phx:


>
> Considered a junkyard cat converter? I don't see them listed
> at one of the national U-Pull-It sites. Yet I often see
> intact muffler systems on junkyard Hondas.
>
>



Yeah, I did. What scares me is that most people don't take care of their
cars, and poor maintenance does drastic and horrible damage to cats. I'd
hate to buy a used cat off a car whose owner ran the same plug wires for
ten years, or ran out of gas a few times.

I've got lots of time on this. I've got a meeting next week with an exhaust
specialist who comes to me highly recommended. Should that come to nothing,
I'm going to start looking at used cats.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

loewent > wrote in news:42479bb3-9c33-4de5-9af1-
:

> IIRC it is illegal for junkyards to sell used Catalytic Converters.
> At least it is in Canada.



It's perfectly legal in Ontario. Don't know about Manitoba.

Used cats are about $100 here, but you're on your own as far as quality
goes; there is no certification.

Ontario's DriveClean program does not care if your cat is new or used, or
if it's stuffed with old diapers. All they care about is if the car passes
smog when tested.



>
> Damned emissions legislation.



Yep. Our premier, Dalton McSneaky, recently took away the 19-year exemption
from smog for cars 1988 and newer. I'm now stuck with smog checks in
perpetuity. I never voted for that Communist anyway.




--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

was talking to someone today, he said never throw out your old
catalytic converter. Take it to a metal salvage place where they can
recover the titanium and rhodium in it. You can get up to $100-200
for it...

Maybe thats just some cars... worth looking into though I guess...

On May 2, 5:45*pm, Tegger > wrote:
> loewent > wrote in news:42479bb3-9c33-4de5-9af1-
> :
>
> > IIRC it is illegal for junkyards to sell used Catalytic Converters.
> > At least it is in Canada.
>
> It's perfectly legal in Ontario. Don't know about Manitoba.
>
> Used cats are about $100 here, but you're on your own as far as quality
> goes; there is no certification.
>
> Ontario's DriveClean program does not care if your cat is new or used, or
> if it's stuffed with old diapers. All they care about is if the car passes
> smog when tested.
>
>
>
> > Damned emissions legislation.
>
> Yep. Our premier, Dalton McSneaky, recently took away the 19-year exemption
> from smog for cars 1988 and newer. I'm now stuck with smog checks in
> perpetuity. I never voted for that Communist anyway.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

loewent > wrote in
:

> was talking to someone today, he said never throw out your old
> catalytic converter. Take it to a metal salvage place where they can
> recover the titanium and rhodium in it.



Platinum, palladium and rhodium, actually.

Platinum and palladium are used for the HC/CO side, rhodium for the NO
side.



> You can get up to $100-200
> for it...



Garages get about $50-100 for them from the places that salvage them.

Cat thefts are increasing for this reason. The crooks are stealing them off
cars on new-car lots, using cordless Sawzalls. They target truck-based
vehicles because there's more ground clearance.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

"Tegger" > wrote:
>
> Yeah, I did. What scares me is that most people don't take care of their
> cars, and poor maintenance does drastic and horrible damage to cats. I'd
> hate to buy a used cat off a car whose owner ran the same plug wires for
> ten years, or ran out of gas a few times.

Ok, I'll bite. Why shouldn't I be running ten-year-old plug wires?

(full disclosu they may have been replaced at some point. I would need
to check the maintenance records to find out.)

Mark in Seattle
1991 Accord