green antifreeze in my 93 civic

On Jan 15, 11:25*am, "Elle" >
wrote:

> Part of the directions for replacing the coolant say to
> remove the drain bolt on the engine block. It can be hard to
> remove, but you really do want to remove it, since doing so
> ensures a good drain and fill. The first time I did this on
> my 91 Civic around 1993 it was very difficult to loosen. But
> I did not have a deep socket, nor breaker bar yada, and was
> not as handy then. Now I find it easy to remove and have
> done so with little problems for the last several changes
> over some eight years or so.

my story on this is that when i went to change the coolant myself
first time, i sweated with the bolt until i had rounded it off good,
socket and all, because the head is so shallow. when i went to the
dealer to get a replacement, they had no idea what i was talking
about. yell over to the service bays "hey charlie, you know anything
about a drain bolt in a civic engine?" charlie comes over to see,
because he has no idea what that's all about. i never did get that
bolt out.....

"z" > wrote
>my story on this is that when i went to change the coolant
>myself
>first time, i sweated with the bolt until i had rounded it
>off good,
>socket and all, because the head is so shallow. when i went
>to the
>dealer to get a replacement, they had no idea what i was
>talking
>about. yell over to the service bays "hey charlie, you know
>anything
>about a drain bolt in a civic engine?" charlie comes over
>to see,
>because he has no idea what that's all about.

The last sentence aboves is the one which deserves emphasis.
If Charlie is not removing that drain bolt, then why the
hell am I!? ;-) Oh yes, because I do coolant changes better
and for less money.

> i never did get that bolt out.....

My 91 Civic engine's coolant drain bolt is a bit rounded
from the first attempt years ago. I was at the junkyard last
year sometime and removed a few of those drain bolts on c.
1990 Civics. (I wanted to see if there was a gasket there or
not; long story.) They generally came off easily.

It's probably best to make the attempt in either warmer
weather, with a slightly warm engine, or both. Come to think
of it, the first time I drained the coolant was a chilly
autumn or late winter day in the Midwest.

Or maybe Honda uses a fancier sealant (compared to the
Permatex I use) on those drain bolt threads when the car
comes right out of the factory. Or right out of the factory
that puppy is really torqued. Either perhaps could be making
the first loosening of the drain bolt difficult.

z wrote:

> my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.

From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green, like the
old silicate kind. Just to confuse us?

I just use the "new" prestone orange stuff in my old honda and acura.
Cheaper too. I don't buy the "honda fluids" only except when it comes
to power steering fluid, and even then I use a generic brand.

dan

On Jan 23, 5:19*pm, "Elle" > wrote:

> It's probably best to make the attempt in either warmer
> weather, with a slightly warm engine, or both. Come to think
> of it, the first time I drained the coolant was a chilly
> autumn or late winter day in the Midwest.
>
> Or maybe Honda uses a fancier sealant (compared to the
> Permatex I use) on those drain bolt threads when the car
> comes right out of the factory. Or right out of the factory
> that puppy is really torqued. Either perhaps could be making
> the first loosening of the drain bolt difficult.

it was mostly bad access; the bolt is behind the exhaust manifold, and
getting a straight shot was difficult, and like I said the head is
very flat, so that the socket was canted somewhat sideways and just
kept falling off rounding off the head. at least i could see that i
would want to replace it with an intact bolt. my plan was to goop up
the bolt with the teflon based sealant so that it would be better
behaved next time. now you've got me all enthused to try it again.

hey, maybe i can buy a set of headers, and take the opportunity to
access the bolt while the manifold is off.... now look what you've
done.

On Jan 24, 11:30*am, dan > wrote:
> z wrote:
> > my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.
>
> *From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green, like the
> old silicate kind. *Just to confuse us?
>
> I just use the "new" prestone orange stuff in my old honda and acura.
> Cheaper too. *I don't buy the "honda fluids" only except when it comes
> to power steering fluid, and even then I use a generic brand.
>
> dan

I have actually replaced my blood with Honda brand Driver Circulatory
Fluid, in order to get the longest life from my automobile. It's
expensive, but I figure it's worth it.

dan > wrote in :

> z wrote:
>
>> my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.
>
> From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green, like the
> old silicate kind. Just to confuse us?
>


Official Honda coolant is transparent dark blue and has been for at least
several years.

The old Honda coolant was green. It was not the bright fluorescent green
that's associated with Prestone, but a transparent, dull, dark green.

--
Tegger

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z > wrote in news:ea241a63-b938-40ac-a185-
:

> On Jan 24, 11:30*am, dan > wrote:
>> z wrote:
>> > my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.
>>
>> *From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green, like th
> e
>> old silicate kind. *Just to confuse us?
>>
>> I just use the "new" prestone orange stuff in my old honda and acura.
>> Cheaper too. *I don't buy the "honda fluids" only except when it comes
>> to power steering fluid, and even then I use a generic brand.
>>
>> dan
>
> I have actually replaced my blood with Honda brand Driver Circulatory
> Fluid, in order to get the longest life from my automobile. It's
> expensive, but I figure it's worth it.
>


Don't turn your head unless you've replaced your fluid with official
Honda Head Turning Fluid. Otherwise, damage will result to the neck
and spinal column assembly.

--
Tegger

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Tegger wrote:
> dan > wrote in :
>
>> z wrote:
>>
>>> my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.
>> From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green, like the
>> old silicate kind. Just to confuse us?
>>
>
>
> Official Honda coolant is transparent dark blue and has been for at least
> several years.
>
> The old Honda coolant was green. It was not the bright fluorescent green
> that's associated with Prestone, but a transparent, dull, dark green.
>

I stand corrected, thank you. Actually, I'm glad they make it a
different color.

dan

dan > wrote in :

> Tegger wrote:
>> dan > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> z wrote:
>>>
>>>> my official honda antifreeze seems to be green.
>>> From what I've heard, the "new" honda antifreeze is also green,
>>> like the
>>> old silicate kind. Just to confuse us?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Official Honda coolant is transparent dark blue and has been for at
>> least several years.
>>
>> The old Honda coolant was green. It was not the bright fluorescent
>> green that's associated with Prestone, but a transparent, dull, dark
>> green.
>>
>
> I stand corrected, thank you. Actually, I'm glad they make it a
> different color.
>


So am I. The blue goes so well with the color of my valve cover.


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Tegger

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On Jan 24, 2:06*pm, Tegger > wrote:

> Don't turn your head unless you've replaced your fluid with official
> Honda Head Turning Fluid. Otherwise, damage will result to the neck
> and spinal column assembly.

too late. you oughta hear it creaking and groaning.

how'd your engine swap ever turn out?