red light camera

if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the
government legally force you to identify the driver??

this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by
the camera.
Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the
yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the
intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the
camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I
think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver"

wrote:
> if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the
> government legally force you to identify the driver??

in practice, yes. If the driver is unclear but it is your car you
either rat out the driver or pay the ticket.

>
> this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by
> the camera.
> Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the
> yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the
> intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the
> camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I
> think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver"

Are there points involved, or just a fine? If the latter, much as it
sucks, it might be better for you to just pay the ticket (I know, I
know, that's what they WANT you to do, but it will cost you less in the
long run)

nate

CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely
want to fight this.

How can CA law force someone to identify the driver? Is there a law
that states this?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the
> government legally force you to identify the driver??
>
> this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by
> the camera.
> Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the
> yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the
> intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the
> camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I
> think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver"
>

If there's another car in the intersection, the camera should show THAT car,
also. It should be easy to get out of this ticket if you explain it that
way, that you would have made it through before red if you hadn't been
stopped by traffic. Or, it could back-fire on you. It depends on the
reason that the vehicle ahead of you stopped. If it was predictable that
the vehicle ahead of you would probably stop, then you were legally required
NOT to enter the intersection at all, as you can't legally enter the
intersection unless you are sure you can also EXIT it. -Dave

wrote:
> CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely
> want to fight this.
>
> How can CA law force someone to identify the driver? Is there a law
> that states this?

I was making a general statement based on how things work out here. It
sounds like CA has an unusual law, so you should probably wait until
someone with specific knowledge of CA chimes in.

nate

In article .com>,
"N8N" > wrote:

> wrote:
> > CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely
> > want to fight this.
> >
> > How can CA law force someone to identify the driver? Is there a law
> > that states this?
>
> I was making a general statement based on how things work out here. It
> sounds like CA has an unusual law, so you should probably wait until
> someone with specific knowledge of CA chimes in.

Any questions about the law of the road in a specific state can usually
be answered by looking up the info on the web site for that state's DMV.

On 27 Mar 2006 10:15:40 -0800, wrote:

>if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the
>government legally force you to identify the driver??
>
>this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by
>the camera.
>Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the
>yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the
>intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the
>camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I
>think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver"

There's a lot of options for you, really, if you really did not run
the light. I assume you're in San Diego, from the 619 in your email
address. If not, then I might be wrong, but San Diego is supposedly
pretty generous when it comes to running a light.

The San Diego cameras are only supposed to be tripped if you cross the
line, on a red, after they power up and you're moving over 15 mph. If
it was in Poway, Encinitas, Del Mar or any of the other sketchy cities
around town you might be getting screwed badly though.

More info on which RLC took the shot would be helpful. If it's a City
of SD camera you might do well to take a video of someone else getting
flashed, and check yellow timings to make sure they're not up to their
old tricks.

Dave
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http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads
Amature Ass(phalt) and more!

SD Dave wrote: <brevity snip>

> There's a lot of options for you, really, if you really did not run
> the light. I assume you're in San Diego, from the 619 in your email
> address. If not, then I might be wrong, but San Diego is supposedly
> pretty generous when it comes to running a light.

WTF?!?!? Generous?!?! The "Revenue Generation Machine" might not take
this guy's money at the slightest opportunity?

Stand back! Plonks a comin'...
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- gpsman

On 28 Mar 2006 08:24:41 -0800, "gpsman" >
wrote:

>SD Dave wrote: <brevity snip>
>
>> There's a lot of options for you, really, if you really did not run
>> the light. I assume you're in San Diego, from the 619 in your email
>> address. If not, then I might be wrong, but San Diego is supposedly
>> pretty generous when it comes to running a light.
>
>WTF?!?!? Generous?!?! The "Revenue Generation Machine" might not take
>this guy's money at the slightest opportunity?
>
>Stand back! Plonks a comin'...
> -----
>
>- gpsman

Troll,

You've already proven how stupid you are, this is just icing. Read
the word "supposedly" that you quoted, dumb****.

Love,
Dave
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http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads
Amature Ass(phalt) and more!

In article .com>,
says...
>
>
>if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the
>government legally force you to identify the driver??

No. But they will lie to you to try to get you to tell them.

>this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by
>the camera.

Depedning on the law in your state, you can ignore the ticket if y

>Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the
>yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the
>intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the
>camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I
>think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver"

The cameras will take more than one shot of you in the intersection.
The follow up shots will show your car stopped at the intersection
waiting for the light to change. You can probalby get off if that is
what happened. It really depends on how greedy your town is.
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Alex