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Transmission fluid avalibility
I want to change the transmission fluid on our 2000 Grand Caravan. Where
can I buy the ATF-4 fluid? All I can find at the local auto stores if ATF-3. The users manual states I need the ATF-4. I want to change fluid, warm up and change again. One auto parts place said the transmission shops were using Valvoline max life transmission fluid in the Caravans. Is this a alternative I should avoid, or go ahead with. Also NAPA is selling an additive for ATF-3 to modify it to 4. My Dodge users manual recomends against additives, so I am shy to take that route. What have other do it yourselfers done when it comes to changing transmission fluids in your Caravans, and if you can get ATF-4 what was your source other than pricey dealership? My van is four years old. Is Dodge still holding onto being the only distributor for ATF-4? Alan in Boise |
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ATF-4 should read ATF+4. My goof. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Alan in Boise |
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ATF-4 should read ATF+4. My goof. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Alan in Boise |
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"Alan W. Blackmon" > wrote in message >...
> ATF-4 should read ATF+4. My goof. Thanks for any help you can offer. > > Alan in Boise ATF+4 is the only thing to be putting back into the transmission. DO NOT REPLACE WITH ANYTHING ELSE! you will burn your trans up. Chrysler has been taking samples of oil in all of the waranty repairs and charging back 100% of of with anything other ATF+4 in them. You own the transmission, do what you want, but I would recomend that you go buy the ATF+4. Its cheaper than buying a new transmission. Chrysler builds cars, they don't make oil, so they are getting it from somewhere. By the way, Slippy Lube and Valvoline had had to replace or cover repairs to peoples trany's due to the wrong fluid in them lately. We did 5 or 6 of them in the past few months. |
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"Alan W. Blackmon" > wrote in message >...
> ATF-4 should read ATF+4. My goof. Thanks for any help you can offer. > > Alan in Boise ATF+4 is the only thing to be putting back into the transmission. DO NOT REPLACE WITH ANYTHING ELSE! you will burn your trans up. Chrysler has been taking samples of oil in all of the waranty repairs and charging back 100% of of with anything other ATF+4 in them. You own the transmission, do what you want, but I would recomend that you go buy the ATF+4. Its cheaper than buying a new transmission. Chrysler builds cars, they don't make oil, so they are getting it from somewhere. By the way, Slippy Lube and Valvoline had had to replace or cover repairs to peoples trany's due to the wrong fluid in them lately. We did 5 or 6 of them in the past few months. |
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Alan W. Blackmon wrote:
> I want to change the transmission fluid on our 2000 Grand Caravan. Where > can I buy the ATF-4 fluid? All I can find at the local auto stores if > ATF-3. The users manual states I need the ATF-4. > > I want to change fluid, warm up and change again. One auto parts place said > the transmission shops were using Valvoline max life transmission fluid in > the Caravans. Is this a alternative I should avoid, or go ahead with. Also > NAPA is selling an additive for ATF-3 to modify it to 4. My Dodge users > manual recomends against additives, so I am shy to take that route. > > What have other do it yourselfers done when it comes to changing > transmission fluids in your Caravans, and if you can get ATF-4 what was your > source other than pricey dealership? My van is four years old. Is Dodge > still holding onto being the only distributor for ATF-4? > > Alan in Boise CarQuest.... |
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Alan W. Blackmon wrote:
> I want to change the transmission fluid on our 2000 Grand Caravan. Where > can I buy the ATF-4 fluid? All I can find at the local auto stores if > ATF-3. The users manual states I need the ATF-4. > > I want to change fluid, warm up and change again. One auto parts place said > the transmission shops were using Valvoline max life transmission fluid in > the Caravans. Is this a alternative I should avoid, or go ahead with. Also > NAPA is selling an additive for ATF-3 to modify it to 4. My Dodge users > manual recomends against additives, so I am shy to take that route. > > What have other do it yourselfers done when it comes to changing > transmission fluids in your Caravans, and if you can get ATF-4 what was your > source other than pricey dealership? My van is four years old. Is Dodge > still holding onto being the only distributor for ATF-4? > > Alan in Boise CarQuest.... |
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Right from the Chrysler Service Manual.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - FLUID AND FILTER SERVICE NOTE: Refer to the maintenance schedules in LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE, or the vehicle owner's manual, for the recommended maintenance (fluid/filter change) intervals for this transaxle. NOTE: Only transmission fluid of the type labeled Mopar ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid–Type 9602) should be used in this transaxle. NOTE: Only fluids of the type labeled Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 should be used. A filter change should be made at the time of the transmission oil change. The magnet (on the inside of the oil pan) should also be cleaned with a clean, dry cloth. NOTE: If the transaxle is disassembled for any reason, the fluid and filter should be changed. FLUID/FILTER SERVICE (RECOMMENDED) Raise vehicle on a hoist. Refer to LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE for proper procedures. Place a drain container with a large opening, under transaxle oil pan. Loosen pan bolts and tap the pan at one corner to break it loose allowing fluid to drain, then remove the oil pan. Install a new filter and o-ring on bottom of the valve body (Filter and O-Ring). Clean the oil pan and magnet. Reinstall pan using new Mopar Silicone Adhesive sealant. Tighten oil pan bolts to 19 N·m (165 in. lbs.). Pour four quarts of Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 through the dipstick opening. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick (Transaxle Fluid Level Indicator). Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature (180°F.). Refer to Fluid Level and Condition Check for the proper fluid fill procedure. To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening. DIPSTICK TUBE FLUID SUCTION METHOD (ALTERNATIVE) When performing the fluid suction method, make sure the transaxle is at full operating temperature. To perform the dipstick tube fluid suction method, use a suitable fluid suction device (Vacula™ or equivalent). Insert the fluid suction line into the dipstick tube. NOTE: Verify that the suction line is inserted to the lowest point of the transaxle oil pan. This will ensure complete evacuation of the fluid in the pan. Follow the manufacturers recommended procedure and evacuate the fluid from the transaxle. Remove the suction line from the dipstick tube. Pour four quarts of Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 through the dipstick opening. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick (Transaxle Fluid Level Indicator). Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature (180°F.). (Refer to 21 - TRANSMISSION/TRANSAXLE/AUTOMATIC - 41TE/FLUID - STANDARD PROCEDURE) To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening. |
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Right from the Chrysler Service Manual.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - FLUID AND FILTER SERVICE NOTE: Refer to the maintenance schedules in LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE, or the vehicle owner's manual, for the recommended maintenance (fluid/filter change) intervals for this transaxle. NOTE: Only transmission fluid of the type labeled Mopar ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid–Type 9602) should be used in this transaxle. NOTE: Only fluids of the type labeled Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 should be used. A filter change should be made at the time of the transmission oil change. The magnet (on the inside of the oil pan) should also be cleaned with a clean, dry cloth. NOTE: If the transaxle is disassembled for any reason, the fluid and filter should be changed. FLUID/FILTER SERVICE (RECOMMENDED) Raise vehicle on a hoist. Refer to LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE for proper procedures. Place a drain container with a large opening, under transaxle oil pan. Loosen pan bolts and tap the pan at one corner to break it loose allowing fluid to drain, then remove the oil pan. Install a new filter and o-ring on bottom of the valve body (Filter and O-Ring). Clean the oil pan and magnet. Reinstall pan using new Mopar Silicone Adhesive sealant. Tighten oil pan bolts to 19 N·m (165 in. lbs.). Pour four quarts of Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 through the dipstick opening. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick (Transaxle Fluid Level Indicator). Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature (180°F.). Refer to Fluid Level and Condition Check for the proper fluid fill procedure. To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening. DIPSTICK TUBE FLUID SUCTION METHOD (ALTERNATIVE) When performing the fluid suction method, make sure the transaxle is at full operating temperature. To perform the dipstick tube fluid suction method, use a suitable fluid suction device (Vacula™ or equivalent). Insert the fluid suction line into the dipstick tube. NOTE: Verify that the suction line is inserted to the lowest point of the transaxle oil pan. This will ensure complete evacuation of the fluid in the pan. Follow the manufacturers recommended procedure and evacuate the fluid from the transaxle. Remove the suction line from the dipstick tube. Pour four quarts of Mopar® ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) Type 9602 through the dipstick opening. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick (Transaxle Fluid Level Indicator). Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature (180°F.). (Refer to 21 - TRANSMISSION/TRANSAXLE/AUTOMATIC - 41TE/FLUID - STANDARD PROCEDURE) To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening. |
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Thanks for all the input. I was wanting to replace the fluid with the ATF+4
but was hoping for alternative to dealer. When I checked on the price of the fluid from the local dealer the guy behind the counter was saying the transaxel needed more fluid than what Gunbunny31 says the manual recomended. Now at least I know the cost is much less than the parts guy was saying it would cost. I appreciate the bonus reply giving instructions to replacing the fluid I have done this job many times on other vehicles but having instructions for especially for the Caravan is appreciated greatly. Thanks Gunbunny31 for that help. I have gone in to several shops to get oil changes, and have come down to just doing these jobs myself. My dad taught me how and several manuals for various cars I have owned. I enjoy doing this work and the few times I have taken vehicles into shops for oil changes has resulted in botched jobs more than once by these various shops. So I just feel to get it done right, do it myself. Again, thanks. |
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