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Roughly 12/31/03 13:08, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>> Just for grins, I still think I'd see if a specialty local alignment >> shop > > how do i find one? how do i tell the shisters from the real guys? Depends on where you live and whether or not you hang out with folks that know cars and the good local shops. The dealer may be expensive but a good place to start. And the tire dealer that sold you the tires as well as their replacements. The good shops won't be cheap and won't try to lowball you. -- Fan of the dumbest team in America. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:08:07 -0800, "4000 psi" >
wrote: >:| >:|> Just for grins, I still think I'd see if a specialty local alignment >:|> shop >:| >:|how do i find one? how do i tell the shisters from the real guys? >:| >:| >:| >:| you can also call a local body shop that does frame work (they also invariably have a 4 wheel alignment machine), they're the ones that'll usually use the crash bolts. -Bret |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:08:07 -0800, "4000 psi" >
wrote: >:| >:|> Just for grins, I still think I'd see if a specialty local alignment >:|> shop >:| >:|how do i find one? how do i tell the shisters from the real guys? >:| >:| >:| >:| you can also call a local body shop that does frame work (they also invariably have a 4 wheel alignment machine), they're the ones that'll usually use the crash bolts. -Bret |
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thats a good idea
"Bret Chase" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:08:07 -0800, "4000 psi" > > wrote: > > >:| > >:|> Just for grins, I still think I'd see if a specialty local alignment > >:|> shop > >:| > >:|how do i find one? how do i tell the shisters from the real guys? > >:| > >:| > >:| > >:| > you can also call a local body shop that does frame work (they also > invariably have a 4 wheel alignment machine), they're the ones that'll > usually use the crash bolts. > > -Bret |
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thats a good idea
"Bret Chase" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:08:07 -0800, "4000 psi" > > wrote: > > >:| > >:|> Just for grins, I still think I'd see if a specialty local alignment > >:|> shop > >:| > >:|how do i find one? how do i tell the shisters from the real guys? > >:| > >:| > >:| > >:| > you can also call a local body shop that does frame work (they also > invariably have a 4 wheel alignment machine), they're the ones that'll > usually use the crash bolts. > > -Bret |
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You don't mention how aggressively you drive this beast. Could you be
over-steering and rubbing off the outside ribs on the front tires? Orygunguy "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message news:Q4kIb.78467$VB2.158257@attbi_s51... > Roughly 12/29/03 19:09, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed: > > the wear seems pretty even from side-to-side and it is smooth ... would you > > say under-inflation would be the most probable cause? > > Even on a Michelin with the tread belts, underinflation will tend > to wear both sides of the tire. Possibly you may have a slight > camber problem [which may be normal for your vehicle] that kept > underinflation from wearing both sides, just more or less the one. > > I wouldn't risk the replacements without checking with at least > two different alignment shops.... and ask them specifically if > your QX4 is notorious for oddball tread wear. And consider > the cross side rotation pattern if it is. > > [Hopefully a mechanic familiar with QX4 may read this and comment] > > > > > > the center as well as the inside of the tires looks great ... the rear tires > > look to be > > completely unaffected ... i may have run it under-inflated for a while .... i > > am just surprised how fast they shaved the outsides off ... a very expensive > > lesson for me > > Yeah, the tread on those tires will normally last longer than it > is safe to run the tire itself. You can get a really really good > digital tire guage for about the cost of a couple valve stems. > > > -- > Fan of the dumbest team in America. > |
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You don't mention how aggressively you drive this beast. Could you be
over-steering and rubbing off the outside ribs on the front tires? Orygunguy "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message news:Q4kIb.78467$VB2.158257@attbi_s51... > Roughly 12/29/03 19:09, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed: > > the wear seems pretty even from side-to-side and it is smooth ... would you > > say under-inflation would be the most probable cause? > > Even on a Michelin with the tread belts, underinflation will tend > to wear both sides of the tire. Possibly you may have a slight > camber problem [which may be normal for your vehicle] that kept > underinflation from wearing both sides, just more or less the one. > > I wouldn't risk the replacements without checking with at least > two different alignment shops.... and ask them specifically if > your QX4 is notorious for oddball tread wear. And consider > the cross side rotation pattern if it is. > > [Hopefully a mechanic familiar with QX4 may read this and comment] > > > > > > the center as well as the inside of the tires looks great ... the rear tires > > look to be > > completely unaffected ... i may have run it under-inflated for a while .... i > > am just surprised how fast they shaved the outsides off ... a very expensive > > lesson for me > > Yeah, the tread on those tires will normally last longer than it > is safe to run the tire itself. You can get a really really good > digital tire guage for about the cost of a couple valve stems. > > > -- > Fan of the dumbest team in America. > |
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what is considered over steering?
i drive in SoCal and it is 50 MPH on most of the city roads here ... there are a lot of bends and up-n-down hills ... i am sure i am probably a bit on the semi-aggressive side when it comes to driving as well ... "OrygunGuy" > wrote in message ... > You don't mention how aggressively you drive this beast. Could you be > over-steering and rubbing off the outside ribs on the front tires? > Orygunguy > > "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message > news:Q4kIb.78467$VB2.158257@attbi_s51... > > Roughly 12/29/03 19:09, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed: > > > the wear seems pretty even from side-to-side and it is smooth ... would > you > > > say under-inflation would be the most probable cause? > > > > Even on a Michelin with the tread belts, underinflation will tend > > to wear both sides of the tire. Possibly you may have a slight > > camber problem [which may be normal for your vehicle] that kept > > underinflation from wearing both sides, just more or less the one. > > > > I wouldn't risk the replacements without checking with at least > > two different alignment shops.... and ask them specifically if > > your QX4 is notorious for oddball tread wear. And consider > > the cross side rotation pattern if it is. > > > > [Hopefully a mechanic familiar with QX4 may read this and comment] > > > > > > > > > > the center as well as the inside of the tires looks great ... the rear > tires > > > look to be > > > completely unaffected ... i may have run it under-inflated for a while > ... i > > > am just surprised how fast they shaved the outsides off ... a very > expensive > > > lesson for me > > > > Yeah, the tread on those tires will normally last longer than it > > is safe to run the tire itself. You can get a really really good > > digital tire guage for about the cost of a couple valve stems. > > > > > > -- > > Fan of the dumbest team in America. > > > > |
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what is considered over steering?
i drive in SoCal and it is 50 MPH on most of the city roads here ... there are a lot of bends and up-n-down hills ... i am sure i am probably a bit on the semi-aggressive side when it comes to driving as well ... "OrygunGuy" > wrote in message ... > You don't mention how aggressively you drive this beast. Could you be > over-steering and rubbing off the outside ribs on the front tires? > Orygunguy > > "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message > news:Q4kIb.78467$VB2.158257@attbi_s51... > > Roughly 12/29/03 19:09, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed: > > > the wear seems pretty even from side-to-side and it is smooth ... would > you > > > say under-inflation would be the most probable cause? > > > > Even on a Michelin with the tread belts, underinflation will tend > > to wear both sides of the tire. Possibly you may have a slight > > camber problem [which may be normal for your vehicle] that kept > > underinflation from wearing both sides, just more or less the one. > > > > I wouldn't risk the replacements without checking with at least > > two different alignment shops.... and ask them specifically if > > your QX4 is notorious for oddball tread wear. And consider > > the cross side rotation pattern if it is. > > > > [Hopefully a mechanic familiar with QX4 may read this and comment] > > > > > > > > > > the center as well as the inside of the tires looks great ... the rear > tires > > > look to be > > > completely unaffected ... i may have run it under-inflated for a while > ... i > > > am just surprised how fast they shaved the outsides off ... a very > expensive > > > lesson for me > > > > Yeah, the tread on those tires will normally last longer than it > > is safe to run the tire itself. You can get a really really good > > digital tire guage for about the cost of a couple valve stems. > > > > > > -- > > Fan of the dumbest team in America. > > > > |
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with hope that I'm not being baited into an explanation...I continue... when
you drive into a corner the car & tire want to continue to go straight ahead, right? the reason the car turns is because you turn the tire away from the direction of travel, right? This causes wear, right? If you were to turn the tire at right angle to the direction of travel you would flat spot it, right? So, if you drive into the turn fast and wait until late into the entrance of the turn to initiate the turn you have to turn the wheel more than if you set the turn up earlier. An aggressive style wears the outer edge of the steering tire off more quickly than a neutral driving style would. So the question that came to mind was: Is he an aggressive driver wearing off the outer edges of his tires by his driving style? And I couldn't keep myself from asking it! I know the Mickey's I have wear evenly until I over drive the 5000 pound vehicle they are mounted on. I can take the outside edge of the outside steering tire (i.e.: the right-side tire in a left hand turn) in a few thousand miles...leaving a set of four tires with very little mid-tread and inner rib wear after rotating the rear tires to the front axel. All of this without discussing chassis set-up, caster/camber, vehicle weight, body roll, acceleration/deceleration in the turn, braking before the turn or in the turn, oversteer, understeer, a loose or tight condition...you can find all of this online.... good luck. "4000 psi" > wrote in message news:%x5Jb.180903$J77.161602@fed1read07... > what is considered over steering? > > i drive in SoCal and it is 50 MPH on most of the city roads here ... there > are a lot of bends and up-n-down hills ... i am sure i am probably a bit on > the semi-aggressive side when it comes to driving as well ... > > "OrygunGuy" > wrote in message > ... > > You don't mention how aggressively you drive this beast. Could you be > > over-steering and rubbing off the outside ribs on the front tires? > > Orygunguy > > > > "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message > > news:Q4kIb.78467$VB2.158257@attbi_s51... > > > Roughly 12/29/03 19:09, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed: > > > > the wear seems pretty even from side-to-side and it is smooth ... > would > > you > > > > say under-inflation would be the most probable cause? > > > > > > Even on a Michelin with the tread belts, underinflation will tend > > > to wear both sides of the tire. Possibly you may have a slight > > > camber problem [which may be normal for your vehicle] that kept > > > underinflation from wearing both sides, just more or less the one. > > > > > > I wouldn't risk the replacements without checking with at least > > > two different alignment shops.... and ask them specifically if > > > your QX4 is notorious for oddball tread wear. And consider > > > the cross side rotation pattern if it is. > > > > > > [Hopefully a mechanic familiar with QX4 may read this and comment] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the center as well as the inside of the tires looks great ... the rear > > tires > > > > look to be > > > > completely unaffected ... i may have run it under-inflated for a while > > ... i > > > > am just surprised how fast they shaved the outsides off ... a very > > expensive > > > > lesson for me > > > > > > Yeah, the tread on those tires will normally last longer than it > > > is safe to run the tire itself. You can get a really really good > > > digital tire guage for about the cost of a couple valve stems. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fan of the dumbest team in America. > > > > > > > > > |
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