Should traffic lights be higher??

On Aug 9, 1:19 am, Justin Rhodes > wrote:
> On Aug 8, 9:50 pm, gpsman > wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 11:58 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>
> > > wrote:
> > > You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
> > > and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
> > > slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.
>
> > You're following too close. If you can't see the light, you can't
> > enter the intersection.
>
> Furthermore, if you can't see the light, you can't readily see
> opposing traffic, hmmm? So if the semi barely avoids getting hit and
> you're blindly following him, you hold a good chance of your car
> becoming a crumpled hood ornament.

I forgot to mention, if the traffic light is too high, then you can't
see it at all, unless you have x-ray vision that'll allow you to see
through the roof of your car.

On Aug 8, 10:58 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
> and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
> slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.

I think you ought to be thrown in prison, red light runner. It's
idiots like you that maim and murder innocent children.

Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> Larry > said in rec.autos.driving:
>
>
>>As long as you're not in the intersection when you see the red light,
>>you're ok. If you're in the intersection when the light comes into
>>view, you are wrong for 1) following too closely behind the truck, and
>>2) entering the intersection without knowing you could get through it
>>before the light turned red.
>
>
> 2) is not a requirement under California law.

I'd be surprised by that; it is law in most civilized places (but I've
never lived in CA)

nate

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Justin Rhodes wrote:
> On Aug 9, 1:19 am, Justin Rhodes > wrote:
>
>>On Aug 8, 9:50 pm, gpsman > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Aug 8, 11:58 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
>>>>and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
>>>>slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.
>>
>>>You're following too close. If you can't see the light, you can't
>>>enter the intersection.
>>
>>Furthermore, if you can't see the light, you can't readily see
>>opposing traffic, hmmm? So if the semi barely avoids getting hit and
>>you're blindly following him, you hold a good chance of your car
>>becoming a crumpled hood ornament.
>
>
> I forgot to mention, if the traffic light is too high, then you can't
> see it at all, unless you have x-ray vision that'll allow you to see
> through the roof of your car.
>

I agree, and I agree with the other posters that stated that signals
should also be placed on poles on the side of the road. At least around
here, signals seem to be placed overhead only, which a) means that in
any of the cars that I regularly drive, I can't see the signal without
craning my neck when I'm the first or even second car in line and b) the
situation where I'm behind a truck and therefore can't see the signal
happens far too often.

nate

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On Aug 9, 3:56 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> > Larry > said in rec.autos.driving:
>
> >>As long as you're not in the intersection when you see the red light,
> >>you're ok. If you're in the intersection when the light comes into
> >>view, you are wrong for 1) following too closely behind the truck, and
> >>2) entering the intersection without knowing you could get through it
> >>before the light turned red.
>
> > 2) is not a requirement under California law.
>
> I'd be surprised by that; it is law in most civilized places (but I've
> never lived in CA)
>
> nate
>
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Dunno about WA but everybody does it. Need to turn left. Pull into
intersection on green and wait for traffic to clear. Often that will
be after the light changes.

Harry K

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" > wrote in
message ...
> You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck and
> you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he slowly
> makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.

This is a real problem. Traffic lights in cities used to be on the curb,
where everyone could see them.

"george conklin" > wrote in message
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>
>
> This is a real problem. Traffic lights in cities used to be on the curb,
> where everyone could see them.

Not everywhere. Many towns used to have just one signal hanging in the
middle of the intersection

On Aug 9, 9:20 am, Harry K > wrote:
> On Aug 9, 3:56 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> > > Larry > said in rec.autos.driving:
>
> > >>As long as you're not in the intersection when you see the red light,
> > >>you're ok. If you're in the intersection when the light comes into
> > >>view, you are wrong for 1) following too closely behind the truck, and
> > >>2) entering the intersection without knowing you could get through it
> > >>before the light turned red.
>
> > > 2) is not a requirement under California law.
>
> > I'd be surprised by that; it is law in most civilized places (but I've
> > never lived in CA)
>
> > nate
>
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> Dunno about WA but everybody does it. Need to turn left. Pull into
> intersection on green and wait for traffic to clear. Often that will
> be after the light changes.
>
> Harry K

I think the way the laws are written and.or enforced, if you enter on
green or yellow and have a clear space to move into when the light
turns red, you won't be ticketed but if you are stuck in the middle of
the intersection after the light turns red and can't exit quickly, you
will be ticketed (and rightly so)

Well, I meant *should* be ticketed. Haven't actually seen anyone
ticketed for anything but speeding in I don't know how long.

nate

On Aug 8, 11:58 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
> and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
> slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.

Only if you want to kill someone. Smart people will wait till they
can see that they
have a green light and that it is safe to proceed.
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Alex

On Aug 8, 11:58 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
> and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
> slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's red.

So you're admitting to being a Red Light Runner. ****ing hypocrite.