How do I convert toe in degrees:minutes:seconds to millimeters orinches?

In article >,
Fran Jones > wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:15:30 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
> > take the car to an experienced professional.
>
> Hi Jim Beam,
>
> I appreciate your plug for the professional, and certainly
> they can accurately measure toe ... but I have to then ask:
>
> Do you take your car to a car wash or wash it yourself?
> Do you repair your car or do you take it to a mechanic?
> Do you change your own oil or do you go to JiffyLube?
>
> This is rec.autos.tech. It's the kind of question that
> could/should be asked on rec.autos.tech.
>
> All I want to do is measure my front and rear toe.
> Measuring toe, in inches, should be relatively simple.
>
> It's the distance from the center of the tire tread to the
> centerline of the vehicle.
>
> What I want to know is how to convert that center-to-center
> measurement to the degrees that are listed in the shop manual.
>
> How does this approach look for the conversion?
>
> 0. Total front toe = 0°5', so toe to center line is half that
> 1. Toe to centerline is 1/2 of 0°5' = 0°2.5'

OK. That's wrong. When toe on a car is measured in degrees, it's the
same figure whether you measure from rim to rim, or centre to rim.

> 2. 0°2.5' divided by 60' is ~0.0417 decimal degrees
> 3. 17" diameter rims * tangent ~0.0417° = 0.0124"
> 4. 0.0124" is roughly about 3/256ths" (or about 0.3mm)

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Nate Nagel > wrote in
:

> On 07/11/2013 09:09 PM, jim beam wrote:

>>
>> he'll need it if he's reading your bovine effluent.
>>
>
> ...you're an insecure little **** who likes crapping on Usenet and
> making it a generally unpleasant place because of your mental issues.
>


I've had "jim beam" killfiled for at least a year; maybe more, I'm not sure
now. I only see his posts when people like Nate respond to them.

For a long time I have/had been corresponding with "jim", both online and
privately. Long ago, he gave me some great help and information for my
website, help for which I am still grateful.

However, I do not know what has happened between 2005 and 2013. Either the
2005 "jim" was a different person than the 2013 "jim", or "jim" has gone
quietly and steadily insane over the past eight years.

"jim", if you're the same person who helped me with the igniter section of
may website, I have to ask: what has happened to you? I still have all the
emails (I keep everything). Your tone of voice was very different before;
much more...human.


--
Tegger

On 07/12/2013 07:22 PM, Tegger wrote:
> Nate Nagel > wrote in
> :
>
>> On 07/11/2013 09:09 PM, jim beam wrote:
>
>>>
>>> he'll need it if he's reading your bovine effluent.
>>>
>>
>> ...you're an insecure little **** who likes crapping on Usenet and
>> making it a generally unpleasant place because of your mental issues.
>>
>
>
> I've had "jim beam" killfiled for at least a year; maybe more, I'm not sure
> now. I only see his posts when people like Nate respond to them.
>
> For a long time I have/had been corresponding with "jim", both online and
> privately. Long ago, he gave me some great help and information for my
> website, help for which I am still grateful.
>
> However, I do not know what has happened between 2005 and 2013. Either the
> 2005 "jim" was a different person than the 2013 "jim", or "jim" has gone
> quietly and steadily insane over the past eight years.
>
> "jim", if you're the same person who helped me with the igniter section of
> may website, I have to ask: what has happened to you? I still have all the
> emails (I keep everything). Your tone of voice was very different before;
> much more...human.
>
>

you mealy-mouthed hypocrite. you came sucking up to me for help and
advice, which i gave free and for nothing, but when i [later] asked for
advice, you wouldn't give it unless i kissed your ass*. well, i don't
play that game. and you can kill-file me to "punish" me for it all you
want. passive-aggressive nonsense.


* when i did finally wring something out of you, it turned out to be
wrong. flat out wrong.


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fact check required

jim beam > wrote in :


>
> you mealy-mouthed hypocrite. you came sucking up to me for help and
> advice, which i gave free and for nothing, but when i [later] asked
> for advice, you wouldn't give it unless i kissed your ass*.



Whaaat? Where on earth did THAT come from?



> well, i
> don't play that game. and you can kill-file me to "punish" me for it
> all you want. passive-aggressive nonsense.



Killfiling you wasn't to "punish" you, but to spare me your invective
(which I see hasn't changed). I un-killfiled you now in order to see any
responses to my post.


>
>
> * when i did finally wring something out of you, it turned out to be
> wrong. flat out wrong.
>
>


What was that? Was it private or online? I don't remember you saying
anything like this at any time during any conversations. I can assure you
that anything I told you would have been said with sincerity; any errors
were certainly inadvertent.

Your belligerent behavior has GOT to be an act; it HAS to be. You like
seeing what kind of rise you can get out of people under cover of Usenet
anonymity.


--
Tegger

In article >,
Fran Jones > wrote:

> My 2001 BMW 525i front total toe spec is 0°5'±10' and the rear total
> toe is 0°22'±4'
>
> How does one convert that to inches or millimeters?

On merely the information given, one doesn't.

To convert such small angles to distances, or vice versa, one also must
at least also have the distance from the vertex of the angle being
measured to the points at which the distance between the angle's sides
is being measured.
A
/\
/ \
/ \
B C
For a given angle at A, the distance between B and C is proportion to
the supposedly equal distances AB and AC, so knowing only angle A by
itself is not enough to determine any distance BC.
--
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)