134a Refrigerant

"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" > wrote in message
> m...
> >> .....who do you call "mr president"? :-)
> >
> > Not W!
>
> go ahead and admit it. you are an anti-american socialist. you wear it,
> own it.

Oh, yes, comrade! Thanks so very much for outing
me!

> > I paid for those roads... you don't want to
> > pay for them, then don't use them!
>
> the depths of your ignorance are obvious. if you _really_ want to learn
> about libertarians see http://harrybrowne.org

I don't need no hairy brown to know that
Libertarians are just Anarchists in clown
suits.

> > http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/sitein...m/altview.html
>
> if youre going to consider blatent liberal publications as credible
sources
> of information than im going to start quoting rush. dont make me do it.
> :-)

Shoot the messenger... spin the message. Do you
deny the data? You got Afghanistan and Iraq
confused... just as the W-ites planned for you to.
You're controlled... owned.

> > As you can see, Nate.... there was no 'liberation of
> > Iraqi women'... they were free before.
>
> so are you saying that the dictators own sons really didnt drive around
> raping young virgin girls at will, or are you saying thats just part of
your
> socialist version of freedom? are saying that iraqi women really could be
> educated, or that they didnt need education in your socialist version of
> freedom?

Well, the young virgins were 'going to school'...
weren't they? Your tune is changing like Giant
Steps...
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Steve
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"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" > wrote in message
> m...
> > You won't be persuaded... we all realize this.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i cannot provide conclusive evidence, nate"
>
> > You want it both ways.... Chlorine can't rise, because it's
> > heavier than air.
>
> sure it can be blown around in the wind but it wont reach the
stratosphere.
> not without a volcanic push.

Then why is it measured there? Along with CFC? The
CFC is coming from space? Volcanos spew CFC?

>
> > Argon doesn't fall, because it's concentration
> > is small.
>
> i hope youre just changing what i say to fit your argument, and that you
> really arent that dense. i never said that it doesnt fall. i said that
its
> concentration wasnt enough to cause a problem.

If the atmosphere layered out like you said it
should, we'd all be dead from it... do the math.

>
>
> > I didnt' say a 'licensed' tech...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "im full of ****, nate". :-)

Did you have physics in high school or college, Nate?

> > You already asserted that you follow the rules...
> > were you lying *then*, or are you lying *now*?
>
> i stated that i follow the rules. HOWEVER, if i thought that what i did
was
> harmful to the environment i stated that i would take greater precautions
> (such as low loss hose fittings which arent required under the current
> rules). now, unless youre trolling you shouldnt try so hard to be an ass
> and actually try to read what someone says.

I've already posted links from reputable scientific
organizations, as well as HVAC industry periodicals,
supporting my assertion. Nothing I could post would
convince you... I've shown that CFCs are found in the
stratosphere, in amounts commensurate with the reactions
going on. You don't agree... you can't agree, since it
would cause you guilt for all the crap you've released
into the atmosphere. Your beliefs are convenient...
why bother to change?

> >> you claimed the hvac industry agrees with your idealogy. i know
better.
> >
> > Cite, or smoke crack.
>
> you yourself admitted to hearing the tech vent in your garage. on the
> surface the hvac industry has to play the game but in the field its
another
> matter entirely.

Yes... we're beginning to see the problem.

> > I posted stuff from scientists
>
> lol and you think that gives your statements ANY credibility at all? :-)
> once upon a time your "scientists" thought the earth was flat! for every
> liberal scientist there is a conservative scientist who knows better.

Conservative scientists know the earth is flat? Well, then
you should be able to post me a link, then, right, Nate?
Well do it, and quit screwing around. C'mon, Nate...
Conservative Science! I need a good belly laugh...
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"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
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> And your point is? Really Stephen, you aren't going to change any minds
> here, and the more you try the more of an asshole you become. You've
become
> what you love to hate...most Conservatives resort to personal attacks when
> they can't win an argument on facts.
>
> Buh-bye. (plonk)
>
> >
> > Top-posting *and* bottom posting... that's a new one on me!
> >
> > Matt, when you can hang with the big dogs, come back...
> > otherwise, just get back on the porch.

You see what I mean...
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Steve
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"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> "Conservatives resort to personal attacks"???? Have you ever heard
> Bush bad month anyone?

Every month is a bad Bush month where I see it... : )
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Steve
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you are so very right bill. I incorrectly stated that about oxygen. Its
just that with so much pure oxygen around, (correct me if I'm wrong) I
believe the flash point of a substance lowers, and turns even more
explosive. Sound about right?

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III wrote:
> Oxygen by it's self is not flammable. All though that small amount
>we trapped in a glass in high school chemistry, sure made the magnesium
>burn brightly.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/
>
>> John, Sorry I don't recall the pressures on the system. given some time, I
>> can go through my books, and find out what they should be though. The
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> chuck did to. Now, If I was stranded in the desert, and thats all I had to
>> make a system work, I'd damn well use it
>

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You don't want to be smoking around someone using oxygen.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> you are so very right bill. I incorrectly stated that about oxygen. Its
> just that with so much pure oxygen around, (correct me if I'm wrong) I
> believe the flash point of a substance lowers, and turns even more
> explosive. Sound about right?

http://www.boycottford.com/Default.a...&sid=329189314
>OK, perhaps the eco-nazis have done us in again.
>In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
>western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
>I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
>price.
>I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
>legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
>their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
>year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
>Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
>bootleg R12 and switch back?
///////////////////
There is a "New" freon on the market, it's GHG-x8 called coolfreeze.
the website says it's cheeper and the head pressure is lower. Go to
search and type in ( coolfreeze ! )
:>)




I am opposed to millionaires.......but it would be dangerous to offer me the
position. ~Mark Twain

BS! Find someone with a Real job that doesn't have to generate
government grants.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
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> Nice link... you should read it:
>
> <>
> We think that within the next 20 years we are likely to see an ozone hole
> perhaps as big as the present one over Antarctica but over the North Pole."
> Joseph Farman, Brian Gardiner and Jonathan Shanklin, are the BAS scientists
> who discovered the Antarctic ozone hole.
> Professor Shanklin also is the Director of the British Astronomical
> Association's Comet Section and the President of the Cambridge Natural
> History Society
> </>
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> Steve
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If that were so there would be another ozone hole over us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> No matter how much inane crap you post, you can't deny
> that the atmosphere mixes. CFCs released in the Northern
> Hemisphere will eventually disperse throughout the atmosphere.
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> Steve
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Then take your head out of your a**!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
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> Every month is a bad Bush month where I see it... : )
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> Steve
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