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AMC 20 Axle Break
Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
to know if it will still be towable. Kevin CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body |
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They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time: http://www.billhughes.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O CJ5 on 35's wrote: > > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want > to know if it will still be towable. > Kevin > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body |
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Ditto - Mine did not "break" rather they just started to spin, and it sheard
that little keyway. I actually drove it for a few days before I realized that it was slipping, it felt just like the clutch was going out. No wheel falls off, you still have the front wheel drive option, and you are 100% towable. I now have the 1 piece axle kit installed. "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44, > up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of > removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we > must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time: > http://www.billhughes.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > CJ5 on 35's wrote: >> >> Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want >> to know if it will still be towable. >> Kevin >> CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body |
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I will remind you AMC used then behind their muscle cars. They
never spin unless someone takes them apart. Chrysler even used their own two piece axles behind their huge Hemis and 440" wedge engines. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Jeff Strickland wrote: > > And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is > the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN > it is as strong as the D44. |
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YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT, Bill!
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell, you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off. Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held on. 35s could break them though. "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44, > up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of > removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we > must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time: > http://www.billhughes.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > CJ5 on 35's wrote: > > > > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want > > to know if it will still be towable. > > Kevin > > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body |
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And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN it is as strong as the D44. "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44, > up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of > removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we > must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time: > http://www.billhughes.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > CJ5 on 35's wrote: > > > > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want > > to know if it will still be towable. > > Kevin > > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body |
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"CJ5 on 35's" > wrote in message oups.com... > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want > to know if it will still be towable. > Kevin > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body I forget, but I think it depends. The hub is held on be a large bolt, but the part that breaks does not physically break off, it strips. So, the wheel should remain in place by the bolt, it just will not be driven by the drive train because the axle splines strip off. The splines strip because the axle twists, and this can allow the bolt to snap off in some cases. As long as the bolt remains entact, the tire should stay on. It would suck to have your tire go rolling by though. |
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But, if the mechanic takes the hub off, that is WRONG! But, then I
was guilty of it, once: http://www.billhughes.com/amc20hub.jpg You might get away with it if you replace the hub with a new one. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/amc20hub.jpg Jeff Strickland wrote: > > They also never spin unless you change the leverage on them by installing > much larger tires and bouncing them on a hillside... > > And since the vehicle is a CJ5, it is AT LEAST 22 years old, making it > almost a certainty that the axles have been taken apart for one reason or > another. |
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"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > I will remind you AMC used then behind their muscle cars. They > never spin unless someone takes them apart. Chrysler even used their own > two piece axles behind their huge Hemis and 440" wedge engines. They also never spin unless you change the leverage on them by installing much larger tires and bouncing them on a hillside... And since the vehicle is a CJ5, it is AT LEAST 22 years old, making it almost a certainty that the axles have been taken apart for one reason or another. |
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Bill, you need to get out from behind your keyboard and experience the
real world for a while. The 2-piece AMC 20 axleshafts break often enough to have created an active secondary market for replacement 1-piece axleshafts. If there was no need, there would be no market for the stronger 1-piece design. It's only once the 2-piece axleshaft is replaced by the 1-piece design that it becomes about as strong as a Dana 44. Of course I guarantee that as usual, you'll squeal like a stuck pig how wonderful AMC is and that the 2-piece axle shaft IS NOT IS NOT IS NOT weak. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote: > I will remind you AMC used then behind their muscle cars. They > never spin unless someone takes them apart. Chrysler even used their own > two piece axles behind their huge Hemis and 440" wedge engines. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > Jeff Strickland wrote: > >>And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is >>the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN >>it is as strong as the D44. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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