Problems! 2000 Caravan Sport and Infinity Sound

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
| On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Snydley wrote:
|
| > Hey asshole,
| > I don't need any crap like this from you.
|
| Then I suggest you not read my posts. I'm not about to stop making 'em.
|
| Friendly greetings!
|
| DS

Daniel, you're going to morph into a curmudgeon as you age if you are not
careful! ;-)

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, James C. Reeves wrote:

> "Daniel J. Stern" wrote

> | On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Snydley wrote:

> | > I don't need any crap like this from you.
> |
> | Then I suggest you not read my posts. I'm not about to stop making 'em.
> | Friendly greetings!
> | DS

> Daniel, you're going to morph into a curmudgeon as you age if you are
> not careful! ;-)

Harrumph. Speak up! I can't hear ya when ya mumble.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, James C. Reeves wrote:

> "Daniel J. Stern" wrote

> | On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Snydley wrote:

> | > I don't need any crap like this from you.
> |
> | Then I suggest you not read my posts. I'm not about to stop making 'em.
> | Friendly greetings!
> | DS

> Daniel, you're going to morph into a curmudgeon as you age if you are
> not careful! ;-)

Harrumph. Speak up! I can't hear ya when ya mumble.

"Bob Urz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Snydley wrote:
> > I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because
the
> > CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
> > aftermarket unit.
> > Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. > >

> A few rounds with google would have gave you your answer.
> Search for "PAC OEM-1 adapter".
>
> http://www.pac-audio.com/oem1kits/oem1search.htm
>
> Bob

Thanks Bob,
You see, I didn't even know what I was up against, let alone what to search
for. I'm not even sure what this does, or if it's what I need. What I want
to do is use the amp built into my new aftermarket receiver, with the
speakers that are stock in the van. Is that possible, or do I need to remove
the speakers, or the amp on the speakers and run the wires directly from the
receiver to those speakers.
By going to that website I see a question in the FAQ section that describes
my problem, front speakers on, but no rear speakers, it says to connect the
Remote "turn on" wire to the Infinity's amps remote wire. My new receiver
has one of these wires.You don't know where these amps are located do you?

Thanks for your help,
Snydley
>
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"Bob Urz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Snydley wrote:
> > I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because
the
> > CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
> > aftermarket unit.
> > Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. > >

> A few rounds with google would have gave you your answer.
> Search for "PAC OEM-1 adapter".
>
> http://www.pac-audio.com/oem1kits/oem1search.htm
>
> Bob

Thanks Bob,
You see, I didn't even know what I was up against, let alone what to search
for. I'm not even sure what this does, or if it's what I need. What I want
to do is use the amp built into my new aftermarket receiver, with the
speakers that are stock in the van. Is that possible, or do I need to remove
the speakers, or the amp on the speakers and run the wires directly from the
receiver to those speakers.
By going to that website I see a question in the FAQ section that describes
my problem, front speakers on, but no rear speakers, it says to connect the
Remote "turn on" wire to the Infinity's amps remote wire. My new receiver
has one of these wires.You don't know where these amps are located do you?

Thanks for your help,
Snydley
>
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Snydley wrote:

> "Bob Urz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Snydley wrote:
>>
>>> I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because
>
> the
>
>>>CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
>>>aftermarket unit.
>>> Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. > >
>
>
>>A few rounds with google would have gave you your answer.
>>Search for "PAC OEM-1 adapter".
>>
>>http://www.pac-audio.com/oem1kits/oem1search.htm
>>
>>Bob
>
>
> Thanks Bob,
> You see, I didn't even know what I was up against, let alone what to search
> for. I'm not even sure what this does, or if it's what I need. What I want
> to do is use the amp built into my new aftermarket receiver, with the
> speakers that are stock in the van. Is that possible, or do I need to remove
> the speakers, or the amp on the speakers and run the wires directly from the
> receiver to those speakers.
> By going to that website I see a question in the FAQ section that describes
> my problem, front speakers on, but no rear speakers, it says to connect the
> Remote "turn on" wire to the Infinity's amps remote wire. My new receiver
> has one of these wires.You don't know where these amps are located do you?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Snydley
>
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Ok, i will try to explain in laymans terms. Your rear speakers have a
amplifier on them. The audio leads from the head unit to these
rear speakers do NOT drive the speakers direct. They are a line level
signal. This signal then feeds the local rear power amp which then
drives the speakers. The PAC unit has a convertor to feed the proper
level signal to the factory amplifier from an aftermarket stereo, and
tells you how to power the amps on. If you are intent on using the after
market radio's internal amps for the rear, the easiest ways is to run
new wires to the speaker locations and install new speakers in the rear.

Bob


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Snydley wrote:

> "Bob Urz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Snydley wrote:
>>
>>> I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because
>
> the
>
>>>CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
>>>aftermarket unit.
>>> Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. > >
>
>
>>A few rounds with google would have gave you your answer.
>>Search for "PAC OEM-1 adapter".
>>
>>http://www.pac-audio.com/oem1kits/oem1search.htm
>>
>>Bob
>
>
> Thanks Bob,
> You see, I didn't even know what I was up against, let alone what to search
> for. I'm not even sure what this does, or if it's what I need. What I want
> to do is use the amp built into my new aftermarket receiver, with the
> speakers that are stock in the van. Is that possible, or do I need to remove
> the speakers, or the amp on the speakers and run the wires directly from the
> receiver to those speakers.
> By going to that website I see a question in the FAQ section that describes
> my problem, front speakers on, but no rear speakers, it says to connect the
> Remote "turn on" wire to the Infinity's amps remote wire. My new receiver
> has one of these wires.You don't know where these amps are located do you?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Snydley
>
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Ok, i will try to explain in laymans terms. Your rear speakers have a
amplifier on them. The audio leads from the head unit to these
rear speakers do NOT drive the speakers direct. They are a line level
signal. This signal then feeds the local rear power amp which then
drives the speakers. The PAC unit has a convertor to feed the proper
level signal to the factory amplifier from an aftermarket stereo, and
tells you how to power the amps on. If you are intent on using the after
market radio's internal amps for the rear, the easiest ways is to run
new wires to the speaker locations and install new speakers in the rear.

Bob


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you can use the stock speakers with amps you just have to power up the amps
using a relay and getting it's trigger from the remote turn on wire off the
aftermarket radio

Snydley wrote:

> I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because the
> CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
> aftermarket unit. I bought a dash adapter and wiring kit so I wouldn't have
> to cut/splice any of the wires.
> Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. Wanting to rule
> out bad rear channels in the receiver, I swapped the front and rear speaker
> connections. The front speakers still work using the rear channels of the
> receiver, so I know the receiver is ok, and it must be something with the
> wiring. I tried to get continuity with my V/Ohm meter and couldn't get any
> with the rear speakers.
> As a last ditch effort, I went to the local Mopar garage and told the guy at
> the service counter my story and he told me that "you can put an Infinity
> receiver in a non-Infinity vehicle, but you can't put an aftermarket radio
> in an Infinity equipped vehicle without replacing the speakers. Each speaker
> has it's own amp on the back of it". By that I figured he meant a diode or
> transformer of some kind.
> Is there any way I can use the stock speakers? Remove the diode/transformer
> or something.
> What do people usually do in this instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Snydley

you can use the stock speakers with amps you just have to power up the amps
using a relay and getting it's trigger from the remote turn on wire off the
aftermarket radio

Snydley wrote:

> I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because the
> CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
> aftermarket unit. I bought a dash adapter and wiring kit so I wouldn't have
> to cut/splice any of the wires.
> Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. Wanting to rule
> out bad rear channels in the receiver, I swapped the front and rear speaker
> connections. The front speakers still work using the rear channels of the
> receiver, so I know the receiver is ok, and it must be something with the
> wiring. I tried to get continuity with my V/Ohm meter and couldn't get any
> with the rear speakers.
> As a last ditch effort, I went to the local Mopar garage and told the guy at
> the service counter my story and he told me that "you can put an Infinity
> receiver in a non-Infinity vehicle, but you can't put an aftermarket radio
> in an Infinity equipped vehicle without replacing the speakers. Each speaker
> has it's own amp on the back of it". By that I figured he meant a diode or
> transformer of some kind.
> Is there any way I can use the stock speakers? Remove the diode/transformer
> or something.
> What do people usually do in this instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Snydley

I got a website http://www.pac-audio.com/oem1kits/oem1search.htm from
someone who replied earlier, did a little research on that site and it said
that if you have sound in the front, but nothing in the rear you need to
turn on the rear amps. Looking over the connections again, I found one wire
from the harness, and from the receiver that weren't being used, turns out
they were the amp "on" wire on the harness, and the power antenna/remote
turn on wire on the receiver. I connected them together without a relay, and
it works ok, UNTIL I turn it up real loud, or have too much bass in the
sound, then the rear channels drop in and out, until I lower the volume.
Maybe the amp is getting too "hot" a signal and causes it to drop out? I
guess I can use it like that for now, until I can get some new speakers in
the back.

Thanks to all!!,
Snydley


"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> you can use the stock speakers with amps you just have to power up the
amps
> using a relay and getting it's trigger from the remote turn on wire off
the
> aftermarket radio
>
> Snydley wrote:
>
> > I removed the Infinity CD/Tape/Radio unit from my 2000 Caravan because
the
> > CD player no longer works and I am attempting to replace it with an
> > aftermarket unit. I bought a dash adapter and wiring kit so I wouldn't
have
> > to cut/splice any of the wires.
> > Now that I have it installed the rear speakers won't work. Wanting to
rule
> > out bad rear channels in the receiver, I swapped the front and rear
speaker
> > connections. The front speakers still work using the rear channels of
the
> > receiver, so I know the receiver is ok, and it must be something with
the
> > wiring. I tried to get continuity with my V/Ohm meter and couldn't get
any
> > with the rear speakers.
> > As a last ditch effort, I went to the local Mopar garage and told the
guy at
> > the service counter my story and he told me that "you can put an
Infinity
> > receiver in a non-Infinity vehicle, but you can't put an aftermarket
radio
> > in an Infinity equipped vehicle without replacing the speakers. Each
speaker
> > has it's own amp on the back of it". By that I figured he meant a diode
or
> > transformer of some kind.
> > Is there any way I can use the stock speakers? Remove the
diode/transformer
> > or something.
> > What do people usually do in this instance?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Snydley
>