Public Apology to Jim Beam (regarding recent dieselgate vents)

In article >, . > wrote:
>On 10/5/2015 7:11 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> Ask anyone of my generation about diesel cars and they will have a story about
>> their neighbor who bought an oldsmobile that exploded.
>
>But the the problem wasn't the engine so much as it was
>the lack of a water/fuel separator and contaminated fuel.

The problem was a rather poor engineering job in the process of converting
a perfectly good gasoline engine design into a marginal diesel engine.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 10/6/2015 10:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article >, . > wrote:
>> On 10/5/2015 7:11 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>
>>> Ask anyone of my generation about diesel cars and they will have a story about
>>> their neighbor who bought an oldsmobile that exploded.
>>
>> But the the problem wasn't the engine so much as it was
>> the lack of a water/fuel separator and contaminated fuel.
>
> The problem was a rather poor engineering job in the process of converting
> a perfectly good gasoline engine design into a marginal diesel engine.
> --scott

It wasn't a conversion, it was purpose built. With replacement
fasteners, a water/fuel separator, good fuel, and diligent
maintenance, the Olds 350 diesels last (and the blocks make
great hot-rodded gas and alcohol race engines too).

"." > wrote in :

> On 10/6/2015 9:25 AM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>> "." > wrote in :
>>
>>>> Ask anyone of my generation about diesel cars and they will have a
>>>> story about their neighbor who bought an oldsmobile that exploded.
>>>> --scott
>>
>>> But the the problem wasn't the engine so much as it was
>>> the lack of a water/fuel separator and contaminated fuel.
>>
>> no the problem was they built a diesel out of a gas eng block that
>> couldnt handel the pounding and by being cheep they runed the market for
>> many years to come. KB
>
> Wrong!!! Urban legend. They were purpose built. Do your homework.

Wrong yourself, it was deff a converted 350 gas eng design. I had to work
on those pieces of crap. They had more problems than you could beleive. All
the maintance in the world wouldnt solve those design problems. KB

On 10/8/2015 9:31 AM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> "." > wrote in :
>
>> On 10/6/2015 9:25 AM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>>> "." > wrote in :
>
>>>>> Ask anyone of my generation about diesel cars and they will have a
>>>>> story about their neighbor who bought an oldsmobile that exploded.
>>>>> --scott
>
>>>> But the the problem wasn't the engine so much as it was
>>>> the lack of a water/fuel separator and contaminated fuel.
>
>>> no the problem was they built a diesel out of a gas eng block that
>>> couldnt handel the pounding and by being cheep they runed the market for
>>> many years to come. KB
>
>> Wrong!!! Urban legend. They were purpose built. Do your homework.
>
> Wrong yourself, it was deff a converted 350 gas eng design. I had to work
> on those pieces of crap. They had more problems than you could beleive. All
> the maintance in the world wouldnt solve those design problems. KB

No, you're quite obviously not an engineer but simply a lazy grease
monkey that unsurprisingly doesn't know what you're talking about
and won't even take the short amount of time necessary to find out.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...smobile-engine

The Olds diesel V-8 displaced 350 ci and was based upon the small-block
Oldsmobile 350. This engine

was not simply the gasoline powerplant converted to diesel, but rather
an all-new assembly based upon

an incredibly beefed engine block just for the purpose. The diesel
program ended in what might be

considered a failure, with complaints of inadequate reliability and poor
power. Ironically, these Olds

diesel blocks are just the ticket to massive power on gasoline.

http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/o...50-diesel.html
Contrary to popular myth, the Oldsmobile 350 diesel was not a gasoline
engine that GM hastily threw some glow plugs into. On the contrary, GM
designed a block specially for the diesel 350, which was heftier and made
of a different alloy than the block used in the gas-powered Rocket 350.
Unfortunately, GM did cut some corners - the most egregious of which
was the lack of a water separator.

http://a350diesel.tripod.com/faqs.html
The 350 Diesel is a Converted 350 Oldsmobile Gas engine Right?
Wrong! The 350 Diesel Is not a converted Gas engine..it is a completely
different block..It isn't a gas engine with different heads or a gas engine
sleeved, etc etc..There was no gas Oldsmobile engine sharing the same
block. The Diesel block is specific to the diesel, it is a heftier, more
solid block with stronger mains and a port in the valley for the injection
pump adapter. The block is cast with a high nickle content. The 350
Diesel is not a converted gas block but can however be converted into
a gas engine.

and more particulars he
http://a350diesel.tripod.com/disaster.html

Learn to educate yourself, these quick facts took no more than a minute
to find.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 10:05:33 AM UTC-5, . wrote:
> On 10/8/2015 9:31 AM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> > "." > wrote in :
> >
> >> On 10/6/2015 9:25 AM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> >>> "." > wrote in :
> >
> >>>>> Ask anyone of my generation about diesel cars and they will have a
> >>>>> story about their neighbor who bought an oldsmobile that exploded.
> >>>>> --scott
> >
> >>>> But the the problem wasn't the engine so much as it was
> >>>> the lack of a water/fuel separator and contaminated fuel.
> >
> >>> no the problem was they built a diesel out of a gas eng block that
> >>> couldnt handel the pounding and by being cheep they runed the market for
> >>> many years to come. KB
> >
> >> Wrong!!! Urban legend. They were purpose built. Do your homework.
> >
> > Wrong yourself, it was deff a converted 350 gas eng design. I had to work
> > on those pieces of crap. They had more problems than you could beleive. All
> > the maintance in the world wouldnt solve those design problems. KB
>
> No, you're quite obviously not an engineer but simply a lazy grease
> monkey that unsurprisingly doesn't know what you're talking about
> and won't even take the short amount of time necessary to find out.
>
> http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...smobile-engine
>
> The Olds diesel V-8 displaced 350 ci and was based upon the small-block
> Oldsmobile 350. This engine
>
> was not simply the gasoline powerplant converted to diesel, but rather
> an all-new assembly based upon
>
> an incredibly beefed engine block just for the purpose. The diesel
> program ended in what might be
>
> considered a failure, with complaints of inadequate reliability and poor
> power. Ironically, these Olds
>
> diesel blocks are just the ticket to massive power on gasoline.
>
> http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/o...50-diesel.html
> Contrary to popular myth, the Oldsmobile 350 diesel was not a gasoline
> engine that GM hastily threw some glow plugs into. On the contrary, GM
> designed a block specially for the diesel 350, which was heftier and made
> of a different alloy than the block used in the gas-powered Rocket 350.
> Unfortunately, GM did cut some corners - the most egregious of which
> was the lack of a water separator.
>
> http://a350diesel.tripod.com/faqs.html
> The 350 Diesel is a Converted 350 Oldsmobile Gas engine Right?
> Wrong! The 350 Diesel Is not a converted Gas engine..it is a completely
> different block..It isn't a gas engine with different heads or a gas engine
> sleeved, etc etc..There was no gas Oldsmobile engine sharing the same
> block. The Diesel block is specific to the diesel, it is a heftier, more
> solid block with stronger mains and a port in the valley for the injection
> pump adapter. The block is cast with a high nickle content. The 350
> Diesel is not a converted gas block but can however be converted into
> a gas engine.
>
> and more particulars he
> http://a350diesel.tripod.com/disaster.html
>
> Learn to educate yourself, these quick facts took no more than a minute
> to find.

Wales, you say? That movie, The Man Who Went Up A Hill, But Came Down A Mountain. That movie is based on a true story. ...Eisteddfod...

On 10/11/2015 11:29 AM, JR wrote:
>
>> and more particulars he
>> http://a350diesel.tripod.com/disaster.html
>
>> Learn to educate yourself, these quick facts took no more than a minute
>> to find.
>
> Wales, you say? That movie, The Man Who Went Up A Hill, But Came
Down A Mountain. That movie is based on a true story. ...Eisteddfod...

Your posts are invariably nonsensical, and this one is no exception.