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On 14 Jul 2005 23:40:51 GMT, Jim Yanik .> wrote:
(Matthew Russotto) wrote in : > >> In article >, >> Jim Yanik .> wrote: (Matthew Russotto) wrote in : >>> >>>> In article >, >>>> C.H. > wrote: >>>>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:21:13 +0000, Dave Head wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, OK... its an activity that's traceable thru cell phone >>>>>> records. Its just one type of distracting activity. >>>>> >>>>>Unfortunately it is far more distracting than most other activities, >>>>>resulting in an extreme increase (300%) in risk. >>>> >>>> Based on that one study which failed to distinguish between cell >>>> phone calls made before and after the accident? >>> >>>There have been a number of studies now,and they all point to CPs as >>>being a serious distraction while driving. >> >>>This latest one is by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. >> >> The Insurance Institute For Higher Surcharges? Now THERE is a >> reliable source. > >Well,if CPs were not a serious cause of accidents,then what benefit would >the insurance companies have to ban CPs? If it hasn't yet become blindingly obvious to you, its the same as the speeding scam. Make a popular thing illegal, people will do it anyway, they'll get a ticket, and then they'll get POINTS on their license, so the INSURANCE company can say, Aha! Bad driver! SURCHARGE! IOW, they'll make a pile of money out of getting cell phones banned. >And why are they not calling for bans of CD players,and eating while >driving,or other distractions? Are we 100% sure they aren't? I've heard of eating and drinking prohibition advocacy for drivers, but am not sure whether the IIHS was behind it or not. Probably - they're likely the only ones that really have an interest in it. Dave Head |
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Dave Head > wrote in
: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:37:14 GMT, DYM > wrote: > >>Dave Head > wrote in m: >> >>> On 14 Jul 2005 00:42:21 GMT, Jim Yanik .> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>And you neglect the advantages of having a CP in case of >>>>breakdown,emergancy,etc. >>> >>> There's still a thing called CB radio, which does _not_ come with a >>> $50 a month charge, and you _can_ blab your ass off all the way down >>> the road and nobody's thinking about banning them. And that's >>> assuming you don't have some other kind of 2-way radio. >>> >>> Dave Head >>> >> >>BTW, you don't need to pay $50/month for CP service if all you want is >>for emergencies. 911 will work on any CP, even if you haven't paid the >>bill is 6 months. >> >>Doug > > Yeah, I know, but I'm not interested in retaining it, when I could > probably sell it after giving up or non-renewing the contract, just to > be able to do that. Besides, the battery would almost certainly be > dead 2 or 3 years down the road when I wanted to actually use it for > that. > > Dave Head > > Ever hear of an auto charging cord accessory for CP's? I have one;when Hurricane Charlie took out my electric power for 7 days,I had no way to recharge my CP. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Dave Head wrote: > Nope - only if I'm the one that rolls up on you while you're bleeding to death, > and there's not going to be anyone else around for the next half-hour or so, > and I have sold the cell phone. If I'm bleeding to death you'll be more than welcome to use my cell phone, if I haven't already, since I wouldn't plan on giving up mine. Why do I care if you don't want a cell phone anymore? You're only putting yourself, and others with your mindset, at risk. Dave |
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Dave Head wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2005 14:43:18 GMT, Jim Yanik .> wrote: >> >>Well,it sounds like no great loss to the rest of us.after all,by your own >>admission,you don't make or receive that many calls. > > Nope - only if I'm the one that rolls up on you while you're bleeding to > death, and there's not going to be anyone else around for the next > half-hour or so, and I have sold the cell phone. I am much more likely to be bleeding to death because you have t-boned me in your cellphone induced stupidity than to be saved by your cellphone. > Others will delete the cell phone from their lists of expenses, too, if > they can't use it where they most need it. This problem will _not_ be as > isolated as you might like it to be. On the contrary, as the example Germany clearly shows. >>And how many accidents or calls for help have you made so far??? > > Reported a drunk driver a couple years ago. Other than that, haven't had > an opportunity. In other words you are endangering people on a daily basis but have only made one call that might have had a slightly beneficial effect on safety in three years? Thanks for making our case for cellphone ban at the wheel. Chris |
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Yeah, but what I'm saying is I'm not going to be digging that out and
charging up a cell phone for which I've canceled the contract just in case I might have to call 911 for something. I'm going to sell the phone - won't have it - if I can't use it where I most often need to use it. Won't be carrying around a DC cord for it, either. Dave Head |
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Yeah, I'm sure I'll be able to find _your_ phone after you've rolled
your car end over end out into the woods someplace, and you're totally unconscious and, as I said, bleeding to death. As for the risk, there are risks to having fewer people in society that have instant communications of a cell phone. Dave Head |
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On 19 Jul 2005 23:27:33 GMT, Jim Yanik .> wrote:
wrote in roups.com: > >> Yeah, I'm sure I'll be able to find _your_ phone after you've rolled >> your car end over end out into the woods someplace, and you're totally >> unconscious and, as I said, bleeding to death. >> >> As for the risk, there are risks to having fewer people in society that >> have instant communications of a cell phone. >> >> Dave Head >> >> > >You STILL can have it with you, Could, but won't. >and still can use in -in an emergency-,just >not use it during ordinary driving. Nope, won't have it at all. Dave Head |
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