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"James C. Reeves" > wrote in
: > > "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message > n.umich.edu... >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, James C. Reeves wrote: >> >>> > Guantanamo: The Gulag of Our Time >> >>> I have a question. Why spend the dollars and human resources >>> detaining these people if there wasn't good reason to? There would >>> be no point at all in doing so, would there? >> >> James, that is an *excellent* impression you do of Dick "We promise >> we only keep bad guys there" Cheney. > > Perhaps, but it doesn't answer the question. Hitler made no bones > about his views of German superiority over the Jews..a group that had > not previously shown animosity to Germany...the result of the events > in history regarding the concentration camps (starvation, gas > chambers, furnaces burning people alive, etc.) was predictable with a > leader like that. I've not seen that sort of contempt against Moslems > from our leaders (only perhaps the radical Moslems that have stated > their intent to destroy western culture...but we still show them > deference when detained..allowing them they're prayer time, etc.). > Gitmo and the things that go on there are hardly comparable...not even > close. In fact, some guards have been punished for mistreating the > detainees. Why isn't there even 10% of same outcry aimed to the other > side...where the "guards" are masked/hooded, looming over a prisoner > (sometimes also hooded) and who post their beheadings on the Internet. > Please get this all into context...for pete's sake?! Who do you and your ilk think that what the terrorists do justifies gutting the ethics of the Unites States? -- Republican Health Plan: Don't Get Sick Guantanamo: The Gulag of Our Time |
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Dave Lister wrote:
> I just don't get what they think they have been doing. Which is why I don't cry when I read about them going under. It's amazing they're still around. People in the U.S. supposedly worship the free market. Well, the free market has decided the U.S. produces junk. And, with the tariffs on foreign cars, it's hardly "free" anyway, yet people would still rather pay extra and get better quality and styling and handling. You can't even save the American auto industry through protectionism anymore. John -- Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven |
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Dave Lister wrote:
> > "C. E. White" > wrote in news:42B1B345.90917013 > @nospam.com: > > > > > > > Dave Lister wrote: > >> > >> 223rem > wrote in newsxVre.3555$on5.1600 > >> @newssvr19.news.prodigy.com: > >> > >> > Many US jails are far worse than Gitmo. Why dont you > >> > direct your hysterical indignation to them? > >> > >> The people in US jails have been tried and convicted of a crime, loon. > > > > > > Not all of them. Lots of people are in jail awaiting > > trial.... > > Not for three fricken years, and not without due process in progress. You might talk to Americans of Japanese decent locked up during W.W.II about that. How many US citizens are locked up at Guantanamo? How serious are the abuses at Guantanamo compared to past abuses committed by the US government on US citizens in the US? I don't particularly like the idea of locking up foreign nationals. I also don't like the idea of foreign nationals strapping bombs to themselves and trying to blow up US soldiers, or hijacking airplanes and crashing them into buildings. I probably could live with having a few hundred foreign nationals locked up at Guantanamo if I though W was actually going to solve the problems that initially made it necessary. But W is not exactly a confidence inspiring kind of guy. Ed |
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"C. E. White" > wrote in
: > Dave Lister wrote: >> >> "C. E. White" > wrote in news:42B1B345.90917013 >> @nospam.com: >> >> > >> > >> > Dave Lister wrote: >> >> >> >> 223rem > wrote in newsxVre.3555$on5.1600 >> >> @newssvr19.news.prodigy.com: >> >> >> >> > Many US jails are far worse than Gitmo. Why dont you >> >> > direct your hysterical indignation to them? >> >> >> >> The people in US jails have been tried and convicted of a crime, >> >> loon. >> > >> > >> > Not all of them. Lots of people are in jail awaiting >> > trial.... >> >> Not for three fricken years, and not without due process in progress. > > You might talk to Americans of Japanese decent locked up > during W.W.II about that. How many US citizens are locked up > at Guantanamo? How serious are the abuses at Guantanamo > compared to past abuses committed by the US government on US > citizens in the US? I have friends here in CA whose parents were just that. What went on then is _irrelevant_. -- Republican Health Plan: Don't Get Sick Guantanamo: The Gulag of Our Time |
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"The Man Behind The Curtain (formerly The Lindbergh Baby)" wrote: > > Dave Lister wrote: > > > I just don't get what they think they have been doing. > > Which is why I don't cry when I read about them going under. It's > amazing they're still around. People in the U.S. supposedly worship the > free market. Well, the free market has decided the U.S. produces junk. > And, with the tariffs on foreign cars, it's hardly "free" anyway, yet > people would still rather pay extra and get better quality and styling > and handling. You can't even save the American auto industry through > protectionism anymore. > > John What tariffs on foreign cars (at least the ones coming into the USA)? Ed |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:45 -0400, "James C. Reeves"
> wrote: >My guess is that Lister doesn't have family defending liberty for people in >the world. It does get under your skin when one does have family in Iraq, >like I do, to hear people like this freely exercising their right to bash >the very people that protect the institutions that give them the right. >Hard to understand, for sure. As a comparison, I still have yet to KF judy, but lister is so ****ed up I had to do it. It must suck to know that even judy has more redeeming qualities than he/she/it does. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:49:17 GMT, Arif Khokar >
wrote: >James C. Reeves wrote: > >> My guess is that Lister doesn't have family defending liberty for people in >> the world. > >I thought the objective of having armed forces was to defend our >country, not go around liberating other people. You are a ****ing moselem idiot, which means they are NOT YOUR ARMED FORCES. |
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DTJ > wrote in
: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:45 -0400, "James C. Reeves" > > wrote: > >>My guess is that Lister doesn't have family defending liberty for >>people in the world. It does get under your skin when one does have >>family in Iraq, like I do, to hear people like this freely exercising >>their right to bash the very people that protect the institutions that >>give them the right. Hard to understand, for sure. > > As a comparison, I still have yet to KF judy, but lister is so ****ed > up I had to do it. It must suck to know that even judy has more > redeeming qualities than he/she/it does. The poor little Nazi worries about other people being ****ed up? -- Republican Health Plan: Don't Get Sick Guantanamo: The Gulag of Our Time |
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DTJ > wrote in
: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:49:17 GMT, Arif Khokar > > wrote: > >>James C. Reeves wrote: >> >>> My guess is that Lister doesn't have family defending liberty for >>> people in the world. >> >>I thought the objective of having armed forces was to defend our >>country, not go around liberating other people. > > You are a ****ing moselem idiot, which means they are NOT YOUR ARMED > FORCES. Here we see the current net.nazi DTJ demonstrating his philosophy for everyone. -- Republican Health Plan: Don't Get Sick Guantanamo: The Gulag of Our Time |
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DTJ wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:49:17 GMT, Arif Khokar > > wrote: > > >>James C. Reeves wrote: >> >> >>>My guess is that Lister doesn't have family defending liberty for people in >>>the world. >> >>I thought the objective of having armed forces was to defend our >>country, not go around liberating other people. > > > You are a ****ing moselem idiot, which means they are NOT YOUR ARMED > FORCES. > > Wow, that's a pretty bigoted statement, considering that last time I checked Arif lived in West by God Virginia. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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