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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm Australia mulls car smoking ban By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are to consider banning smoking in cars. A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on passengers, particularly children. (snip) Similar laws have been proposed in parts of the United States and Germany, but were rejected on privacy grounds. The New South Wales government said there would have to be far more public debate before any new measures were brought in. This type of smoking ban has been rejected by the state parliament on two previous occasions. Supporters of the legislation have argued that research into the dangers of passive smoking has proved that change is urgently needed. |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE > wrote in
: > Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern > shoudl be safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the > drivers on cell phones. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm > > Australia mulls car smoking ban > By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney > > Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South > Wales, are to consider banning smoking in cars. > A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive > smoking on passengers, particularly children. You forgot to blame Bush, psycho. You're slipping. -- From: (Fredric L. Rice) Subject: Pray for DeLay "suicide" 9/28/05 "Wouldn't it KICK ASS! if he were found face down in his corn flakes in the morning, a victim of another bizarre Republican "suicide?"" "Sweet baby Jesus, I'd throw a ****ing party in the nearest park and put up signs giving thanks to Jesus." |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" > wrote in message ... > > > > > Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be > safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm > > Australia mulls car smoking ban > By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney > > Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are > to consider banning smoking in cars. > A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on > passengers, particularly children. > > (snip) > > Similar laws have been proposed in parts of the United States and > Germany, but were rejected on privacy grounds. > > The New South Wales government said there would have to be far more > public debate before any new measures were brought in. > > This type of smoking ban has been rejected by the state parliament on > two previous occasions. > > Supporters of the legislation have argued that research into the > dangers of passive smoking has proved that change is urgently needed. > > > Wouldn't the real answer be to outlaw tobacco out-right? Just another stupid suggestion... BFaux ;-) |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
> B Faux:
> Wouldn't the real answer be to outlaw tobacco out-right? Just another > stupid suggestion... Yeah, just what we need: another item for the freedom fighters in this nation to put in their reprehensible bag of tricks... -- "Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight????" --George Carlin |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:03:18 GMT, "B Faux" > wrote:
> >"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" > wrote in message .. . >> >> >> >> >> Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be >> safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm >> >> Australia mulls car smoking ban >> By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney >> >> Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are >> to consider banning smoking in cars. >> A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on >> passengers, particularly children. >> >> (snip) >> >> Similar laws have been proposed in parts of the United States and >> Germany, but were rejected on privacy grounds. >> >> The New South Wales government said there would have to be far more >> public debate before any new measures were brought in. >> >> This type of smoking ban has been rejected by the state parliament on >> two previous occasions. >> >> Supporters of the legislation have argued that research into the >> dangers of passive smoking has proved that change is urgently needed. >> >> >> > >Wouldn't the real answer be to outlaw tobacco out-right? Just another >stupid suggestion... Wouldn't the real answer be to just beat fascist pigs senseless with a rubber hose ... |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> > > > Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be > safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm > > Australia mulls car smoking ban > By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney > > Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are > to consider banning smoking in cars. > A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on > passengers, particularly children. > > (snip) > > There's a couple off suggestions floating round regarding the ban. One is to ban smoking in cars completely, which will never happen. The other is to ban smoking in cars when children are on board, which I think has more merit. While I have no problem with people smoking in their cars, as a member of the NSW State Emergency Service, nothing ****s me to tears more than seeing downright fkn morons throwing cigarette butts out of their car windows whilst driving through the most flammable continent on the planet. I do make it a habit of telling them exactly what I think of them if I get a chance at the next set of traffic lights. IMHO, the primary positive outcome to an outright ban is it would stop the lowest common denominator of the population from throwing their butts out the window. |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:25:42 -0500, necromancer
> wrote: >> B Faux: >> Wouldn't the real answer be to outlaw tobacco out-right? Just another >> stupid suggestion... > >Yeah, just what we need: another item for the freedom fighters in this >nation to put in their reprehensible bag of tricks... What do you need freedom for if you're not doing anything wrong? Dave |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:15:12 +1100, Sir Lex > wrote:
>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote: >> >> >> >> Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be >> safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm >> >> Australia mulls car smoking ban >> By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney >> >> Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are >> to consider banning smoking in cars. >> A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on >> passengers, particularly children. >> >> (snip) >> >> > > >There's a couple off suggestions floating round regarding the ban. One >is to ban smoking in cars completely, which will never happen. The >other is to ban smoking in cars when children are on board, which I >think has more merit. > >While I have no problem with people smoking in their cars, as a member >of the NSW State Emergency Service, nothing ****s me to tears more than >seeing downright fkn morons throwing cigarette butts out of their car >windows whilst driving through the most flammable continent on the >planet. I do make it a habit of telling them exactly what I think of >them if I get a chance at the next set of traffic lights. > >IMHO, the primary positive outcome to an outright ban is it would stop >the lowest common denominator of the population from throwing their >butts out the window. Don't you have littering laws already? Cigarette butts count as litter, at least in the US. I can't believe the NRA isn't jumping all over this. If cigarettes can get banned because of their involvement in another crime then what chances do guns stand? How about banning cars to prevent accidents. **** the economy, lets all walk everywhere! Oh, and you'll need a helmet on at all times. And full body armor. Even in July in Nevada. Oh, and getting a suntan will be illegal, to prevent you from skin cancer. We should also ban McDonalds, because people can become fat, or even worse, feed that **** to their children or pets! Oh, and we'll have to ban rock and/or roll. It's bad for the hearing and for the soul. Dave --- Like Roads? http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
SD Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:15:12 +1100, Sir Lex > wrote: > > >>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be >>>safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. >>> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm >>> >>>Australia mulls car smoking ban >>>By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney >>> >>>Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are >>>to consider banning smoking in cars. >>>A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on >>>passengers, particularly children. >>> >>>(snip) >>> >>> >> >> >>There's a couple off suggestions floating round regarding the ban. One >>is to ban smoking in cars completely, which will never happen. The >>other is to ban smoking in cars when children are on board, which I >>think has more merit. >> >>While I have no problem with people smoking in their cars, as a member >>of the NSW State Emergency Service, nothing ****s me to tears more than >>seeing downright fkn morons throwing cigarette butts out of their car >>windows whilst driving through the most flammable continent on the >>planet. I do make it a habit of telling them exactly what I think of >>them if I get a chance at the next set of traffic lights. >> >>IMHO, the primary positive outcome to an outright ban is it would stop >>the lowest common denominator of the population from throwing their >>butts out the window. > > > Don't you have littering laws already? Cigarette butts count as > litter, at least in the US. We do, however throwing a lit cigarette into long dry grass on the side of the road is a tad worse than throwing a paper wrapper. Different laws apply if someone throws a butt out their window and it starts a fire. Punishments in this case range up to 14 years imprisonment if said fire ends up killing someone. > I can't believe the NRA isn't jumping all over this. If cigarettes > can get banned because of their involvement in another crime then what > chances do guns stand? > > How about banning cars to prevent accidents. **** the economy, lets > all walk everywhere! > > Oh, and you'll need a helmet on at all times. And full body armor. > Even in July in Nevada. Oh, and getting a suntan will be illegal, to > prevent you from skin cancer. We should also ban McDonalds, because > people can become fat, or even worse, feed that **** to their children > or pets! > > Oh, and we'll have to ban rock and/or roll. It's bad for the hearing > and for the soul. > When I said that an outright ban would have a positive effect in that the lowest common denominator would be forced to stop tossing butts, I was also trying to imply that such a law would not be fair on the majority of people who normally do the right thing and put their butts in their cars ash tray. Though I realise that in my OP that was not clear at all. My bad. > Dave > --- > Like Roads? http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads |
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Australia considers ban on smoking in cars
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:01:20 +1100, Sir Lex > wrote:
>SD Dave wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:15:12 +1100, Sir Lex > wrote: >> >> >>>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Their concern is with passive smoke but the real concern shoudl be >>>>safety. Smoking drivers are as deadly as the drivers on cell phones. >>>> >>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4757498.stm >>>> >>>>Australia mulls car smoking ban >>>>By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney >>>> >>>>Authorities in Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, are >>>>to consider banning smoking in cars. >>>>A parliamentary inquiry will look at the effects of passive smoking on >>>>passengers, particularly children. >>>> >>>>(snip) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>There's a couple off suggestions floating round regarding the ban. One >>>is to ban smoking in cars completely, which will never happen. The >>>other is to ban smoking in cars when children are on board, which I >>>think has more merit. >>> >>>While I have no problem with people smoking in their cars, as a member >>>of the NSW State Emergency Service, nothing ****s me to tears more than >>>seeing downright fkn morons throwing cigarette butts out of their car >>>windows whilst driving through the most flammable continent on the >>>planet. I do make it a habit of telling them exactly what I think of >>>them if I get a chance at the next set of traffic lights. >>> >>>IMHO, the primary positive outcome to an outright ban is it would stop >>>the lowest common denominator of the population from throwing their >>>butts out the window. >> >> >> Don't you have littering laws already? Cigarette butts count as >> litter, at least in the US. > >We do, however throwing a lit cigarette into long dry grass on the side >of the road is a tad worse than throwing a paper wrapper. > >Different laws apply if someone throws a butt out their window and it >starts a fire. Punishments in this case range up to 14 years >imprisonment if said fire ends up killing someone. > >> I can't believe the NRA isn't jumping all over this. If cigarettes >> can get banned because of their involvement in another crime then what >> chances do guns stand? >> >> How about banning cars to prevent accidents. **** the economy, lets >> all walk everywhere! >> >> Oh, and you'll need a helmet on at all times. And full body armor. >> Even in July in Nevada. Oh, and getting a suntan will be illegal, to >> prevent you from skin cancer. We should also ban McDonalds, because >> people can become fat, or even worse, feed that **** to their children >> or pets! >> >> Oh, and we'll have to ban rock and/or roll. It's bad for the hearing >> and for the soul. >> > >When I said that an outright ban would have a positive effect in that >the lowest common denominator would be forced to stop tossing butts, I >was also trying to imply that such a law would not be fair on the >majority of people who normally do the right thing and put their butts >in their cars ash tray. Though I realise that in my OP that was not >clear at all. My bad. Thanks for the honest response. I think we're on the same page, since a few years ago I watched my neighbors houses burn during San Diego's Cedar fires. I just was worried you were another nut trying to ban smoking entirely because of a few bad apples. I'm all for punishing them, but there are many smokers that go out of their way to not cause litter or problems for others. Dave --- http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads Amature Ass(phalt) and more! |
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