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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed
the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend recently. What potential hazards am I dealing with? What's the best way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:40:08 -0600, Robert Reynolds > wrote:
>I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed >the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. >I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend >recently. What potential hazards am I dealing with? What's the best >way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? The only hazard is that honda isn't making 9500% profit. Flushing it out every other summer is sufficient. |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
honda has used green antifreeze in the past, does not mean its prestone.
AZ Nomad wrote: >>I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed >>the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. > >>I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend >>recently. What potential hazards am I dealing with? What's the best >>way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? > >The only hazard is that honda isn't making 9500% profit. > >Flushing it out every other summer is sufficient. -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200801/1 |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
So what's the deal with Prestone anyway? Is it really a problem?
I'm pretty sure our friends weren't taking their 13 year old car to a Honda dealer for service, by the way. loewent via CarKB.com wrote: > honda has used green antifreeze in the past, does not mean its prestone. > > AZ Nomad wrote: >>> I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed >>> the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. >>> I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend >>> recently. What potential hazards am I dealing with? What's the best >>> way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? >> The only hazard is that honda isn't making 9500% profit. >> >> Flushing it out every other summer is sufficient. > |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Jan 14, 10:40 pm, Robert Reynolds > wrote:
> I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed > the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. > > I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend > recently. What potential hazards am I dealing with? What's the best > way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? fluid services make up a huge portion of profit for Honda dealerships, and so they started the campaigns for their proprietary fluids, even motor oil!! i like Honda engineering, but i hate their marketing with a passion. i've never visited a dealership or buy anything from them. i bought OEM parts elsewhere if i need too. and i'm open to aftermarket parts. Boy! you have no idea what kind of fluid i'm running on my 89 Honda power steering!!! the concentration of silicate in traditional green coolant is about 59 ppm, not much, but enough for Honda's scaring tactic to work!! and let me tell you the green dye just won't die!!. i drained the green coolant and re-filled the radiator with amber/yellow antifreez and now the whole thing is green! WTF? it's the long life aspect of the PEAK LongLife coollant, and its compatibility with all kind of proprietary coolants (except for diesel egnines) that appeal to me.. http://www.peakantifreeze.com/referencechart.html |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:54:04 GMT, loewent via CarKB.com <u10197@uwe> wrote:
>honda has used green antifreeze in the past, does not mean its prestone. I don't give a **** if is blue and has little pink clovers in it. What matters is that it has sufficient thermal mass and that it won't corrode the cooling system. Paying twenty times more for a half percent improvement in performance is simple insanity. |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:57:26 -0600, Robert Reynolds > wrote:
>So what's the deal with Prestone anyway? Is it really a problem? >I'm pretty sure our friends weren't taking their 13 year old car to a >Honda dealer for service, by the way. What if they really really want that special feeling of pride that comes from having spent too much? |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
"Robert Reynolds" > wrote
> I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, > and I noticed the comments about Prestone not belonging in > a Honda. > > I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought > from a friend recently. What potential hazards am I > dealing with? Premature water pump failure. Saw it on my 91 Civic after a few years of using the Prestone and similar stuff. One cannot definitely blame the coolant, of course, but other reports here tend to support the theory. The net may have more. I have used the orange Havoline anti-freeze in my Civic since about 2002, with no problems. The water pump was new in 2001. Technically, it's due for replacement, but that's another thread. > What's the best way to get it all out if I'm going to > replace it? Part of the directions for replacing the coolant say to remove the drain bolt on the engine block. It can be hard to remove, but you really do want to remove it, since doing so ensures a good drain and fill. The first time I did this on my 91 Civic around 1993 it was very difficult to loosen. But I did not have a deep socket, nor breaker bar yada, and was not as handy then. Now I find it easy to remove and have done so with little problems for the last several changes over some eight years or so. With the engine block drain bolt removed, you can really flush the system pretty well, in my estimation, with a garden hose placed in the radiator mouth, the radiator drain plug shut, and with the water running out the engine block drain bolt hole. For the early flushes, catch the coolant that comes out with the water, since you don't want it poisoning animals. A bit of water will remain in the engine block when you are done. You can do the persnickety calculations to account for it and compensate with a slightly higher concentration of anti-freeze, assuming you are using orange Havoline and not OEM pre-mix. Or you might be fine blowing off the small amount that stays in the block. You will want some non-hardening high temperature sealant for the engine block drain bolt threads. One of the Permatex sealants says on its packaging it is good for the drain bolt on the engine block. The sealant is per the maintenance instructions. You will also need a new gasket for the drain bolt. |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Jan 14, 10:40*pm, Robert Reynolds > wrote:
> I've been following the thread on Honda brand antifreeze, and I noticed > the comments about Prestone not belonging in a Honda. > > I noticed green antifreeze in my 93 civic that I bought from a friend > recently. *What potential hazards am I dealing with? *What's the best > way to get it all out if I'm going to replace it? my official honda antifreeze seems to be green. |
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green antifreeze in my 93 civic
On Jan 15, 12:57*am, Robert Reynolds > wrote:
> So what's the deal with Prestone anyway? *Is it really a problem? > I'm pretty sure our friends weren't taking their 13 year old car to a > Honda dealer for service, by the way. the main thing is that older cars used silicate in the antifreeze to eliminate scaling, supposedly that's too abrasive for hondas. i don't know whatever else in the formula has changed. |
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