asshole, 30 yrs from now $7 a gal gas WILL BE CHEAP

"Dave Head" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:49:17 -0500, "bugo" > wrote:
>
>>"Dave Head" > wrote in message
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>>> Those are income taxes, and would go away with the repeal of the 13th
>>> Amendment. Not only that, they are HIGHLY REGRESSIVE income taxes,
>>> that take 7.65% out of the pay of even someone making $5K/yr, it
>>> doesn't matter how little you make, that 7.65% happens. It also take
>>> another 7.65% out of what the employer is supposed to cough up, which
>>> incentivizes him to find workers overseas.
>>
>>Let me guess: you're one of those "fair tax" nutjobs. The "fair tax"
>>would
>>result in a higher tax burden for the poor
>
> Absolutely 100% wrong. The poor don't pay a penny of it.

How would the poor be exempt from a sales tax? Would they carry a card that
they could present to the cashier that said they don't have to pay taxes?

>>and middle class
>
> Hey, I'm in the middle class, and I'd be going home with $14,000 more
> per year that _isn't_ sent to Washington for my income tax. IOW,
> middle class taxes would be lower.
>
>>and a lower tax burden for the rich
>
> Yes, exactly. That's a good thing. EVERYBODY pays less tax. What's
> wrong with that?

Everything is wrong with that. We need tax revenue to run the country.
Less taxes = shoddy government. Which is what the Repubs want, for
government to fail just so they can say "I told you so!"

"Beam Me Up Scotty" > wrote in
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> On 7/25/2010 6:10 PM, Larry G wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 5:39 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
>> > wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2010 3:52 PM, Rich Piehl wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/25/2010 9:22 AM, US 71 wrote:
>>>>> http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...399921,00.html
>>>
>>>> I never said there weren't Republican racists. But the previous post
>>>> made it sound like there were Democrat racists during the Civil rights
>>>> era.
>>>
>>> There are RACISTS that call themselves Republican(They are usually lost
>>> Democrats) but the REPUBLICAN PARTY doesn't embrace their racism as does
>>> the Democrats that are true racists at their core.
>>>
>>> "Liberalism is based on race and is inherently racist because in
>>> Liberalism, race is the one thing from which all else is derived.
>>> - Beam Me Up Scotty - 2009"
>>>
>>> A little Liberalism like a little alcohol, can be a good thing but when
>>> either of them take control, they become self destructive.
>>
>> so the Europeans are 24/7 drunks?
>
>
> Almost every European I know is.....

How many Euros do you know?

On 7/25/2010 5:57 PM, Larry G wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2:50 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> > wrote:
>> On 7/25/2010 1:12 PM, Larry G wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 25, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On 7/24/2010 10:30 PM, bugo wrote:
>>
>>>>> "Beam Me Up Scotty" >
>>>>> wrote in ...
>>
>>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>> Free Lunch > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Health care has always been rationed. The question is how it is
>>>>>>>> rationed. Right now, in this country, it is rationed by insurance
>>>>>>>> companies and affordability.
>>
>>>>>> Don't we ration food and water and clothes? Should the government hand
>>>>>> out those little *Mao suits* to each and every American rather than
>>>>>> allowing us to buy expensive designer clothes while the poor have to
>>>>>> wear K-mart clothes?
>>
>>>>> There's a huge ****ing difference between wearing fancy clothes and
>>>>> dying because you can't afford insurance or because the criminal
>>
>>>> Kids kill other kids for their expensive sneakers. People steal
>>>> expensive clothes, and steal identities to buy expensive clothes all the
>>>> time and end up in jail with their life ruined and shortened.... ruined
>>>> thanks to the criminal culture they end up in after stealing the clothes.
>>
>>>>> insurance companies refuse to pay for your treatment. Have some
>>>>> perspective.
>>
>>>> They are the same in the end(MY clothes/MY medical care), they are both
>>>> Socialism when government interferes and neither one is a power given to
>>>> the Federal Government by the constitution.
>>
>>> would you say the same with regard to MY public school and MY
>>> interstate road?
>>
>> Schools YES.... it's MY education, it's not the nations, nor is it
>> constitutional. Roads are in the constitution as a mandate that the
>> post office make roads for postal use. But we all know how well the Post
>> Office works.
>
> public schools are unconstitutional? and all the crap on the
> interstates beyond post office vehicles is "constitutional". you ARE
> living in a dream world. how you look at the world is pretty creative.

Show me a Federal Constitutional power to fund schools. The
constitution didn't specifically limit road use to mail carriers so I'm
open on that one but you'd have to convince me that no one else could
use a mail road. The Feds owned Alaska but people could still use it.

"Beam Me Up Scotty" > wrote in
>
> There are RACISTS that call themselves Republican(They are usually lost
> Democrats) but the REPUBLICAN PARTY doesn't embrace their racism as does
> the Democrats that are true racists at their core.
>

Typical Republican: denial

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...00001188015321
This isn't racist?

This isn't suggesting violence?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...5089&id=842943


I've noticed you Republicans all use fear & hate to support your cause and
don't like logic.

Isn't that just like the KKK?

Social Networks Help Republican Racism Go Viral
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/07/obama_racism.html

http://www.culturekitchen.com/mole33...ublican_racism

Iowa Republican Insults Blacks
http://www.culturekitchen.com/mole33...epublican_insu

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blo...car-overdrive/

http://gawker.com/5064741/the-racist...etter-listicle

Read these then tell me Republicans aren't racist. I'm sure you will, since
you obviously aren't concerned with FACTS. You'd rather scream "the sky is
falling" then listen, Little Chicken.

"Beam Me Up Scotty" > wrote in
message
>> public schools are unconstitutional? and all the crap on the
>> interstates beyond post office vehicles is "constitutional". you ARE
>> living in a dream world. how you look at the world is pretty creative.
>
> Show me a Federal Constitutional power to fund schools. The
> constitution didn't specifically limit road use to mail carriers so I'm
> open on that one but you'd have to convince me that no one else could
> use a mail road. The Feds owned Alaska but people could still use it.

Would you rather kids be ignorant and uneducated? They would be more likely
to vote GOP.

I'm surprised you don't think the census is unconstitutional.

"Beam Me Up Scotty" > wrote in
message ...
> On 7/25/2010 6:00 PM, bugo wrote:
>> "Larry G" > wrote in message
>> news:26ac3f87-600c-4690-879e-
>>> that's what they do in Europe - right? that's why their have longer
>>> life expectancies?
>>
>> Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US. That's plain sad. It's
>> embarrassing. America can do better.
>
>
> Apples and Oranges.... it's a statistical lie. But then they don't
> drive to the store, they don't snow ski into trees, they don't parachute
> for entertainment. They don't count births from the moment they are born
> in all cases.

Give me a break. How many deaths per year in the US are caused by skiers
running into trees? I bet it's fewer than ten a year. How many skydivers
die a year? Probably very few.

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:53:34 -0500, Rich Piehl
> wrote in misc.transport.road:

>On 7/25/2010 10:34 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:38:35 -0500, Rich Piehl
>> > wrote in misc.transport.road:
>>
>>> On 7/24/2010 11:28 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:48:55 -0300, Clark F Morris
>>>> > wrote in misc.transport.road:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:05:23 -0500, Rich Piehl
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> much snipped
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This from the person who didn't know that it was the Republicans that
>>>>>> brought about civil rights laws in this country - not the democrats.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments were by the Republicans but the
>>>>> 1964 Civil Right package was by the Democrats or are you referring to
>>>>> some other civil rights laws?
>>>>>
>>>>> Clark Morris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google European Socialism and do some reading for a change.
>>>>
>>>> The Republicans of today are nothing like the Civil War Republicans.
>>>> There's a reason that minorities do not vote for the GOP and that is
>>>> because the GOP has betrayed its roots and made it acceptable for
>>>> Republicans to be racists and to be publicly indifferent to the needs of
>>>> the elderly, the sick and the poor.
>>>
>>> Yeah, boy I'm sure glad there have been no racist Democrats like Robert
>>> Byrd.
>>>
>>>
>> He had been a racist but changed over time. He quit being a racist. If
>> he had not, he would have joined the GOP.
>
>He blocked the civil rights legislation in the 60's. Learn your history.

Yes, that was almost half a century ago. There were rational Republicans
back then, too.

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:52:23 -0500, "bugo" > wrote:

>"Dave Head" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Kill the income tax, make everyone prosperous, then they won't need
>> it.
>
>I wish I had such a simple, dumbed down, black and white worldview. It
>would be a lot easier than seeing the world as a complex thing.

Killing the income tax is pretty simple - its a cancer in the economy.

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:39:44 -0500, "bugo" > wrote:

>"Dave Head" > wrote in message
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>> I knew that. So, did you sue the insurance company?
>>
>> I just meant that this move to get everything under the gov't plan
>> will result in a Medicare-like gov't entity doing the insurance
>> eventually, and if they refuse it, you can't sue 'em about it because
>> they're the gov't.
>
>Do you think suing the insurance companies would be any more successful?

Yeah. The local TV has several lawyers that advertise their eagerness
to skewer insurance companies that don't honor their contracts.
They've been doing it for at least a decade that I've seen 'em, and if
they weren't successful, they wouldn't be making any money, so would
quit investing in advertising for that. So... they must be
successful.