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Old August 10th 06, 01:59 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Troy
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Crap. Past couple of days I notice my fuel economy going to hell, got home
from work today and was about to leave again when the xj wouldn't crank.
Opened up the hood and the first injector was spewing gas everywhere, so I
replaced all fuel injector o-rings.

When I was putting it all back together (losing daylight so I was hurrying)
I got it all back and went to plug in what I believe is the Fuel Return
Line, and I cut the o-rings by putting it back in hastily. There were 2
orange rings on the outside of a black ring.

Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the fuel
rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much. I'm so
****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!

Troy


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Old August 10th 06, 01:05 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Kate[_3_]
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When all else fails, take a digital pic of it, and SHOW it to them.

Kate

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
. ..
> Crap. Past couple of days I notice my fuel economy going to hell, got
> home from work today and was about to leave again when the xj wouldn't
> crank. Opened up the hood and the first injector was spewing gas
> everywhere, so I replaced all fuel injector o-rings.
>
> When I was putting it all back together (losing daylight so I was
> hurrying) I got it all back and went to plug in what I believe is the Fuel
> Return Line, and I cut the o-rings by putting it back in hastily. There
> were 2 orange rings on the outside of a black ring.
>
> Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the fuel
> rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
> specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much. I'm so
> ****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!
>
> Troy
>



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Old August 10th 06, 09:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Troy
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Ya I stopped by autozone today and they didn't know anything about it and
their computers didn't help. I ended up buying a multi o-ring pack and
making it work with some redneck ingenuity. Although now it's all back
together the damn injector is still leaking, the rail seems to cut the
o-ring. I just came inside to get some water while I sent the gf to get
another pack of them. I'll let ya'll know how this turns out and what that
damn piece is called when I find out.

Troy

"Kate" > wrote in message
.. .
> When all else fails, take a digital pic of it, and SHOW it to them.
>
> Kate
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> . ..
>> Crap. Past couple of days I notice my fuel economy going to hell, got
>> home from work today and was about to leave again when the xj wouldn't
>> crank. Opened up the hood and the first injector was spewing gas
>> everywhere, so I replaced all fuel injector o-rings.
>>
>> When I was putting it all back together (losing daylight so I was
>> hurrying) I got it all back and went to plug in what I believe is the
>> Fuel Return Line, and I cut the o-rings by putting it back in hastily.
>> There were 2 orange rings on the outside of a black ring.
>>
>> Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the fuel
>> rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
>> specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much. I'm
>> so ****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!
>>
>> Troy
>>

>
>



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Old August 10th 06, 11:10 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
DougW
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Troy wrote:

> Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the
> fuel rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
> specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much.
> I'm so ****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!


On the rail from the front.

Fuel return () pressure regulator
Fuel supply

injector 1
...
injector 6

http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/fuel...-regulator.jpg

I'm not sure if you have the same type of connector I do but
mine has a couple of ears, two o-rings and a plastic seperator.
That's an assembly and a real bitch to replace.

better pic. Ignore the bit ass pressure regulator.
http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/fuel-rail-1.jpg

If that's the connector then the part you need is.
1-83502745 or at least the rings from it.
http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/core.jpg

How exactly that goes in I dunno. Your supposed to pry out the
old rings and plasitc spacer then shove this in, twist the plug
out and your done. Me, I had a spare connector assembly from
another project.


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Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
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Old August 11th 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Troy
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I hope you didn't tear yours down to show me! If you did you have one clean
ride.

Yup thats the little part I will be needing. I kinda forced it back in with
some aftermarket o-rings and the plastic piece spread a little and it
doesn't leak for now, so I will keep that part number in case it does spring
a leak.

The o-ring that was being cut when I was pushing the fuel rail back on the
injector, this time I lube'd it with some wd-40 and it went on with no
problems. I now have no leaks thankfully, but I'm sure the next thing that
may have a problem would be that connector you identified for me, thanks a
bunch! I would not have been able to find it on my own for sure, was it in
the FSM?

Troy

"DougW" > wrote in message
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> Troy wrote:
>
>> Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the
>> fuel rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
>> specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much.
>> I'm so ****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!

>
> On the rail from the front.
>
> Fuel return () pressure regulator
> Fuel supply
>
> injector 1
> ...
> injector 6
>
> http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/fuel...-regulator.jpg
>
> I'm not sure if you have the same type of connector I do but
> mine has a couple of ears, two o-rings and a plastic seperator.
> That's an assembly and a real bitch to replace.
>
> better pic. Ignore the bit ass pressure regulator.
> http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/fuel-rail-1.jpg
>
> If that's the connector then the part you need is.
> 1-83502745 or at least the rings from it.
> http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/core.jpg
>
> How exactly that goes in I dunno. Your supposed to pry out the
> old rings and plasitc spacer then shove this in, twist the plug
> out and your done. Me, I had a spare connector assembly from
> another project.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>



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Old August 11th 06, 01:47 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
DougW
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Troy wrote:
> I hope you didn't tear yours down to show me! If you did you have
> one clean ride.


Nah, I didn't tear it apart. But I do take pictures when it is.

> The o-ring that was being cut when I was pushing the fuel rail back
> on the injector, this time I lube'd it with some wd-40 and it went on
> with no problems. I now have no leaks thankfully, but I'm sure the
> next thing that may have a problem would be that connector you
> identified for me, thanks a bunch! I would not have been able to
> find it on my own for sure, was it in the FSM?


When doing injectors or any o-ring work (including the fuel filter
which has the same type of connector) it's important to squirt a bit
of motor oil on the rings.

That repair part is shown in the FSM but it's not even in the online
catalog used at the dealer. It's a specialty repair part that was
intended to be used every time any fuel rail was off and not just for
the Jeep. Thing is they never use them so it dropped off the normal
ordering system. They still have them though. It's just a carrier
for the o-rings and spacer.

I wish they would have used AN fittings. Heck, next mod will probably
be custom fuel line. Especially if we go to E85 around here. The
stock rubber lines/pump/rings will melt with that much ethanol.

What ever you do, don't loose those injector clips. They only come
with a new rail and that sucker is way expensive. They are also a
hard to find junkyard part.

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-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!


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Old August 11th 06, 03:42 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Will Honea[_1_]
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Doug, if you lose a clip just buy a large safety pin that has the same
approximate size wire and bend yourself a new one. It will last at
least as long as the "official" ones do.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:47:12 UTC "DougW"
> wrote:

> Troy wrote:
> > I hope you didn't tear yours down to show me! If you did you have
> > one clean ride.

>
> Nah, I didn't tear it apart. But I do take pictures when it is.
>
> > The o-ring that was being cut when I was pushing the fuel rail back
> > on the injector, this time I lube'd it with some wd-40 and it went on
> > with no problems. I now have no leaks thankfully, but I'm sure the
> > next thing that may have a problem would be that connector you
> > identified for me, thanks a bunch! I would not have been able to
> > find it on my own for sure, was it in the FSM?

>
> When doing injectors or any o-ring work (including the fuel filter
> which has the same type of connector) it's important to squirt a bit
> of motor oil on the rings.
>
> That repair part is shown in the FSM but it's not even in the online
> catalog used at the dealer. It's a specialty repair part that was
> intended to be used every time any fuel rail was off and not just for
> the Jeep. Thing is they never use them so it dropped off the normal
> ordering system. They still have them though. It's just a carrier
> for the o-rings and spacer.
>
> I wish they would have used AN fittings. Heck, next mod will probably
> be custom fuel line. Especially if we go to E85 around here. The
> stock rubber lines/pump/rings will melt with that much ethanol.
>
> What ever you do, don't loose those injector clips. They only come
> with a new rail and that sucker is way expensive. They are also a
> hard to find junkyard part.
>



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Old August 11th 06, 03:42 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Will Honea[_1_]
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Did you think to lube the o-ring before squeezing it back in? I've
used engine oil, 3-1, silicone, and soap - all seem to work a lot
better than a dry fit. K-Y might work as well...


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:46:17 UTC "Troy" <@á.> wrote:

> Ya I stopped by autozone today and they didn't know anything about it and
> their computers didn't help. I ended up buying a multi o-ring pack and
> making it work with some redneck ingenuity. Although now it's all back
> together the damn injector is still leaking, the rail seems to cut the
> o-ring. I just came inside to get some water while I sent the gf to get
> another pack of them. I'll let ya'll know how this turns out and what that
> damn piece is called when I find out.
>
> Troy
>
> "Kate" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > When all else fails, take a digital pic of it, and SHOW it to them.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> > . ..
> >> Crap. Past couple of days I notice my fuel economy going to hell, got
> >> home from work today and was about to leave again when the xj wouldn't
> >> crank. Opened up the hood and the first injector was spewing gas
> >> everywhere, so I replaced all fuel injector o-rings.
> >>
> >> When I was putting it all back together (losing daylight so I was
> >> hurrying) I got it all back and went to plug in what I believe is the
> >> Fuel Return Line, and I cut the o-rings by putting it back in hastily.
> >> There were 2 orange rings on the outside of a black ring.
> >>
> >> Its on a 90 XJ 4.0L. Is this the fuel return line? Coming off the fuel
> >> rail, front of the engine, to a metal fuel line? I need to know
> >> specifically what to ask for, I dont trust the parts guys too much. I'm
> >> so ****ed I cut those o-rings!!! argh!
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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