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is it easier to pull the motor w/ the tranny still attached?



 
 
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Old April 9th 07, 05:19 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
pnsman64
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Default is it easier to pull the motor w/ the tranny still attached?

I need to remove the 318 from my 67 Plymouth. the question is would it be
easier if I also removed the 727 transmission still attached? All this work
will be done on my back in my garage.

TIA Greg


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Old April 10th 07, 01:54 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
Otto Skorzeny
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It's almost always easier to pull the engine and transmission
together. Just disconeect the linkages, transmissin and engine mount
bolts, acessories, etc. and hoist them out as as single unit. The
main difficulty in doing them separately is reinstalling the engine
and trying to properly connect it to the tranny while lyng on your
back, etc.

You'll also have the advantage of detailing/cleaning the engine bay
and the transmission bay as well as the transmission itself.

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Old April 10th 07, 03:48 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
v8z
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I agree, and if you're pulling the motor to rebuild, iits also a good idea
to change filter & fluid on tranny.

If you don't own one, rent an engine tilter to use along with the hoist to
make the job MUCH, MUCH easier - I've done it both with and without, and the
tilter was well worth the investment.
You can adjust the angle of the engine/trans combo during pull and
reinstall. Here's a couple of examples
http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?P...OD&ProdID=3691
http://www.menintools.com/shop/tilter.html

Another thing to have ready is a spare driveshaft tranny yoke, (or tranny
specific plastic plug) to seal the tailshaft and keep from spewing tranny
fluid everywhere.
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?CatCode=24002 In a pinch,
a rattlecan spray paint cap and duct tape can be a viable substitute.

If, as you begin to lift the motor, and you encounter any resistance, stop
and double-check to make sure everything is diconnected, or you might end up
having to repair somthing - like maybe a backup light connector.

"Otto Skorzeny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> It's almost always easier to pull the engine and transmission
> together. Just disconeect the linkages, transmissin and engine mount
> bolts, acessories, etc. and hoist them out as as single unit. The
> main difficulty in doing them separately is reinstalling the engine
> and trying to properly connect it to the tranny while lyng on your
> back, etc.
>
> You'll also have the advantage of detailing/cleaning the engine bay
> and the transmission bay as well as the transmission itself.
>



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Old April 11th 07, 11:55 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
pnsman64
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"v8z" > wrote in message
...
>I agree, and if you're pulling the motor to rebuild, iits also a good idea
> to change filter & fluid on tranny.
>
> If you don't own one, rent an engine tilter to use along with the hoist to
> make the job MUCH, MUCH easier - I've done it both with and without, and
> the
> tilter was well worth the investment.
> You can adjust the angle of the engine/trans combo during pull and
> reinstall. Here's a couple of examples
> http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?P...OD&ProdID=3691
> http://www.menintools.com/shop/tilter.html
>
> Another thing to have ready is a spare driveshaft tranny yoke, (or tranny
> specific plastic plug) to seal the tailshaft and keep from spewing tranny
> fluid everywhere.
> http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?CatCode=24002 In a
> pinch,
> a rattlecan spray paint cap and duct tape can be a viable substitute.
>
> If, as you begin to lift the motor, and you encounter any resistance, stop
> and double-check to make sure everything is diconnected, or you might end
> up
> having to repair somthing - like maybe a backup light connector.
>
> "Otto Skorzeny" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>>
>> It's almost always easier to pull the engine and transmission
>> together. Just disconeect the linkages, transmissin and engine mount
>> bolts, acessories, etc. and hoist them out as as single unit. The
>> main difficulty in doing them separately is reinstalling the engine
>> and trying to properly connect it to the tranny while lyng on your
>> back, etc.
>>
>> You'll also have the advantage of detailing/cleaning the engine bay
>> and the transmission bay as well as the transmission itself.
>>

>
>

Thanks for the great advice I will pull them both together.

Greg


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Old April 14th 07, 05:53 AM posted to rec.autos.antique
Stude
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Default is it easier to pull the motor w/ the tranny still attached?

On Apr 11, 3:55 pm, "pnsman64" > wrote:
> "v8z" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >I agree, and if you're pulling the motor to rebuild, iits also a good idea
> > to change filter & fluid on tranny.

>
> > If you don't own one, rent an engine tilter to use along with the hoist to
> > make the job MUCH, MUCH easier - I've done it both with and without, and
> > the
> > tilter was well worth the investment.
> > You can adjust the angle of the engine/trans combo during pull and
> > reinstall. Here's a couple of examples
> >http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?P...OD&ProdID=3691
> >http://www.menintools.com/shop/tilter.html

>
> > Another thing to have ready is a spare driveshaft tranny yoke, (or tranny
> > specific plastic plug) to seal the tailshaft and keep from spewing tranny
> > fluid everywhere.
> >http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?CatCode=24002 In a
> > pinch,
> > a rattlecan spray paint cap and duct tape can be a viable substitute.

>
> > If, as you begin to lift the motor, and you encounter any resistance, stop
> > and double-check to make sure everything is diconnected, or you might end
> > up
> > having to repair somthing - like maybe a backup light connector.

>
> > "Otto Skorzeny" > wrote in message
> roups.com...

>
> >> It's almost always easier to pull the engine and transmission
> >> together. Just disconeect the linkages, transmissin and engine mount
> >> bolts, acessories, etc. and hoist them out as as single unit. The
> >> main difficulty in doing them separately is reinstalling the engine
> >> and trying to properly connect it to the tranny while lyng on your
> >> back, etc.

>
> >> You'll also have the advantage of detailing/cleaning the engine bay
> >> and the transmission bay as well as the transmission itself.

>
> Thanks for the great advice I will pull them both together.
>
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Not being familiar with the combination, I think that you might find
out that reconnection the tranny is not as easy as disconnecting.

General hint for putting standard tranny back onto installed engine:
Lift the rear of the car a bit higher than level so gravity will help
you put it in and hold it while you fumble with the bolts.

 




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