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  #31  
Old February 26th 10, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
A Paul Ing
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On Feb 25, 8:18*pm, Yukon wrote:
On Feb 25, 7:23*pm, Yukon wrote:





On Feb 24, 3:03*pm, "Pszemol" wrote:


"Yukon" wrote in message


....


Be prepared for hundreds, thousands of fry and massive amounts
of food like rotifers, later artemia & cyclopeeze. 20 gallons might
cause big water problems later, with growing fish. My 60 grow up
in 30 gallons and I had never-ending problems with water quality....
It is best to prepare several tanks and group fish when they grow
up by size, to keep in one tank fish of similar size. Otherwise they
fight too much. A lot of work for about half a year before they are
big enough to bring them to the fish store or give away to people.
But you can learn a lot and have a lot of fun and satisfaction when
they survive in reasonable quantities... Go for it! :-)


I might just try it. I raised freshwater angels for years - years ago.
Too bad I got rid of all the breeder tanks.


Read about the proper diet rich in fatty acids to avoid my mistake
which caused my fish to massively die due to the "sudden death
syndrome", which was caused by fish suffering from their under
developed nervous system.


I tried to rise them only once using two batches of eggs/fry...
Out of couple thousand fry from two batches only 60-70 fish
survived my first attempt. Massive die off in first couple of weeks.


Due to the amount of time and work involved also large space
required for tanks, water changes, air pumps, etc (I just rent a small
appartment so no room for experiments like these) I have never
repeated my attempt after this first, successful one.


Be prepared with some problems with unloading large amounts
of fish -- it is hard to find local places where you can give them
10 small fish every week and it is not worth it to ship them :-)


I had 20 tanks set up for breeding angelfish. It was fun for a while,
but like you said, after the first few batches sold to the pet store,
they couldn't take them anymore. And maintaining that many tanks,
especially during power failures, was quite a hassle.


Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.- Hide quoted text -

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Here Yukon, suck on this and maybe it will take down your tension and
esae your mind about high powerbills just to keep a ****ing fish.
****ing numbnuts.
  #32  
Old February 27th 10, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Yukon[_2_]
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On Feb 25, 9:18*pm, Yukon wrote:
On Feb 25, 7:23*pm, Yukon wrote:



On Feb 24, 3:03*pm, "Pszemol" wrote:


"Yukon" wrote in message


....


Be prepared for hundreds, thousands of fry and massive amounts
of food like rotifers, later artemia & cyclopeeze. 20 gallons might
cause big water problems later, with growing fish. My 60 grow up
in 30 gallons and I had never-ending problems with water quality....
It is best to prepare several tanks and group fish when they grow
up by size, to keep in one tank fish of similar size. Otherwise they
fight too much. A lot of work for about half a year before they are
big enough to bring them to the fish store or give away to people.
But you can learn a lot and have a lot of fun and satisfaction when
they survive in reasonable quantities... Go for it! :-)


I might just try it. I raised freshwater angels for years - years ago.
Too bad I got rid of all the breeder tanks.


Read about the proper diet rich in fatty acids to avoid my mistake
which caused my fish to massively die due to the "sudden death
syndrome", which was caused by fish suffering from their under
developed nervous system.


I tried to rise them only once using two batches of eggs/fry...
Out of couple thousand fry from two batches only 60-70 fish
survived my first attempt. Massive die off in first couple of weeks.


Due to the amount of time and work involved also large space
required for tanks, water changes, air pumps, etc (I just rent a small
appartment so no room for experiments like these) I have never
repeated my attempt after this first, successful one.


Be prepared with some problems with unloading large amounts
of fish -- it is hard to find local places where you can give them
10 small fish every week and it is not worth it to ship them :-)


I had 20 tanks set up for breeding angelfish. It was fun for a while,
but like you said, after the first few batches sold to the pet store,
they couldn't take them anymore. And maintaining that many tanks,
especially during power failures, was quite a hassle.


Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.


One of the reasons it was so high was instead of one big air pump, I
used 5 smaller ones. Next time, it would be one big one.
  #33  
Old February 27th 10, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Pszemol
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"Yukon" wrote in message
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Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.


One of the reasons it was so high was instead of one big air pump,
I used 5 smaller ones. Next time, it would be one big one.


Come on... :-)

I cannot imagine air pumps, even 5 of them, making a significant
difference in a whole-house electric bill... What are they consuming?
3 Watt each?

Running 5 of them 24/7 would be about 5x3W = 15W, times 720
hours in a month gives 10800 Wh. With the average price 10 cents
per kWh you would pay about 11x10cents, which is about 1 dollar
and 10 cents per month, and you probably pay less than 10c/kWh :-)

I would rather look at lights and heaters, especially if the tanks
where located in a cold basement...

  #34  
Old February 27th 10, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Yukon[_2_]
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On Feb 27, 11:54*am, "Pszemol" wrote:
"Yukon" wrote in message

...

Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.


One of the reasons it was so high was instead of one big air pump,
I used 5 smaller ones. Next time, it would be one big one.


Come on... :-)

I cannot imagine air pumps, even 5 of them, making a significant
difference in a whole-house electric bill... What are they consuming?
3 Watt each?

Running 5 of them 24/7 would be about 5x3W = 15W, times 720
hours in a month gives 10800 Wh. With the average price 10 cents
per kWh you would pay about 11x10cents, which is about 1 dollar
and 10 cents per month, and you probably pay less than 10c/kWh :-)

I would rather look at lights and heaters, especially if the tanks
where located in a cold basement...


Sorry - forgot to mention - all the tanks had separate lights and
heaters too. And they were in a basement. If I did it again, I have a
heated room for everything.
  #35  
Old February 28th 10, 04:01 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
A Paul Ing
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On Feb 27, 11:36*am, Yukon wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:54*am, "Pszemol" wrote:





"Yukon" wrote in message


....


Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.


One of the reasons it was so high was instead of one big air pump,
I used 5 smaller ones. Next time, it would be one big one.


Come on... :-)


I cannot imagine air pumps, even 5 of them, making a significant
difference in a whole-house electric bill... What are they consuming?
3 Watt each?


Running 5 of them 24/7 would be about 5x3W = 15W, times 720
hours in a month gives 10800 Wh. With the average price 10 cents
per kWh you would pay about 11x10cents, which is about 1 dollar
and 10 cents per month, and you probably pay less than 10c/kWh :-)


I would rather look at lights and heaters, especially if the tanks
where located in a cold basement...


Sorry - forgot to mention - all the tanks had separate lights and
heaters too. And they were in a basement. If I did it again, I have a
heated room for everything.- Hide quoted text -

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  #36  
Old February 28th 10, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Yukon[_2_]
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Default Lemonpeel Angelfish

On Feb 27, 12:36*pm, Yukon wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:54*am, "Pszemol" wrote:



"Yukon" wrote in message


....


Forgot to mention - the electric bill was pretty high too.


One of the reasons it was so high was instead of one big air pump,
I used 5 smaller ones. Next time, it would be one big one.


Come on... :-)


I cannot imagine air pumps, even 5 of them, making a significant
difference in a whole-house electric bill... What are they consuming?
3 Watt each?


Running 5 of them 24/7 would be about 5x3W = 15W, times 720
hours in a month gives 10800 Wh. With the average price 10 cents
per kWh you would pay about 11x10cents, which is about 1 dollar
and 10 cents per month, and you probably pay less than 10c/kWh :-)


I would rather look at lights and heaters, especially if the tanks
where located in a cold basement...


Sorry - forgot to mention - all the tanks had separate lights and
heaters too. And they were in a basement. If I did it again, I have a
heated room for everything.


I just went out in the garage and checked - I still have all that
equipment boxed up. I thought I threw it out years ago.
  #37  
Old February 28th 10, 05:04 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Pszemol
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"Yukon" wrote in message
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I just went out in the garage and checked - I still have all that
equipment boxed up. I thought I threw it out years ago.


Perfect time to go back to breeding attempts! ;-)

  #38  
Old February 28th 10, 03:39 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
A Paul Ing
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On Feb 27, 10:04*pm, "Pszemol" wrote:
"Yukon" wrote in message

...

I just went out in the garage and checked - I still have all that
equipment boxed up. I thought I threw it out years ago.


Perfect time to go back to breeding attempts! ;-)


  #39  
Old February 28th 10, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Yukon[_2_]
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Default Lemonpeel Angelfish

On Feb 27, 11:04*pm, "Pszemol" wrote:
"Yukon" wrote in message

...

I just went out in the garage and checked - I still have all that
equipment boxed up. I thought I threw it out years ago.


Perfect time to go back to breeding attempts! ;-)


Yep - gonna have to think about it.
  #40  
Old January 18th 11, 07:39 PM
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This is really great. In fact, I have two, one Boxed in the garage. I'm just tired of the noise. But they certainly
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