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Old January 12th 05, 05:22 AM
James
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How about just changing the filter at 3k? The oil cost more than the
filter. If the oil is not worn out but just dirty, would changing just
the filter make sense? Adding new oil lost from the filter would also
refresh the additives.

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Old January 12th 05, 05:36 AM
jjjsan
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u can just change out filter only, but get ready to pay to get a new engine
in awhile, find out how much that is!
changing just the filter won't help the oil, it will still be contaminated
and wearout you engine.
Change the oil also what's another $6 when a new engine is in the
thousands. Buy the stuff on sale at you local auto parts store, many
offer $6-8 rebate when you buy a case.



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Old January 12th 05, 05:40 AM
Comboverfish
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If anything, change just the oil at 3K. I do it at work when we're
slow and I'm near 3K for an oil change but didn't think to bring a
filter with me. And only very occasionally at that.

Better yet, do both every 3k for $4.00 more. And I don't think 0.3 Qt
of added oil will "refresh the additives". When they're gone, they're
gone. You're just supplying however much additive content there is in
0.3 Qts of oil, which is approximately jack-squat : )

Toyota MDT in MO

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Old January 12th 05, 06:17 AM
BBA
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> How about just changing the filter at 3k? The oil cost more than the
> filter. If the oil is not worn out but just dirty, would changing just
> the filter make sense?


Sure - In fact I know quite a few techs that do just that!
Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point

BBA


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Old January 12th 05, 06:21 AM
Lawrence Glickman
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:17:33 -0800, "BBA"
> wrote:

>> How about just changing the filter at 3k? The oil cost more than the
>> filter. If the oil is not worn out but just dirty, would changing just
>> the filter make sense?

>
>Sure - In fact I know quite a few techs that do just that!


Where do they *work* so we can avoid the place(s)

>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point


When would that be, at 100K ?

>BBA
>


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Old January 12th 05, 07:17 AM
Lawrence Glickman
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:18:52 -0800, "BBA"
> wrote:

>> >> How about just changing the filter at 3k? The oil cost more than the
>> >> filter. If the oil is not worn out but just dirty, would changing just
>> >> the filter make sense?
>> >
>> >Sure - In fact I know quite a few techs that do just that!

>>
>> Where do they *work* so we can avoid the place(s)

>
>
>
>Maybe I should have added that the techs in question do this to their own
>vehicles and not to customers


Amazing. Amazingly stupid. Oil contamination with fuel and
combustion byproducts will dilute the oil ( not good ) and turn the
oil acidic, and acid and metal do not like eachother. Not to mention
all the micro-metal debris along with carbon particles floating around
that make it through the oil filter.

>Did you know that most independent auto shops add 40 to 60% to the price of the
>oil that they sell?


Never go to a shop to have your oil changed. They will give you the
cheapest **** imaginable, to keep their profit margin as high as
possible.

>Did you know that Citgo is just (filtered) recycled oil!?


Are you aware that I wouldn't stop at a Citgo station if I was down to
my last drop of fuel?

>Did you know that most modern engine oil contain detergents that can handle
>quite a bit of wear a tear?


Yah. They take that dirt into solution, and bathe all your engine
parts with that dirt. Bearings, cams, valves, the entire works gets
washed over and over with MUD.

Eventually this MUD becomes so thick it turns into sludge, which won't
come out with your next oil change.

>>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point

>
>>When would that be, at 100K ?

>
>Every 12k or possibly once every year!


You change your oil once a year. I see.....

Lg

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Old January 12th 05, 07:18 AM
BBA
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> >> How about just changing the filter at 3k? The oil cost more than the
> >> filter. If the oil is not worn out but just dirty, would changing just
> >> the filter make sense?

> >
> >Sure - In fact I know quite a few techs that do just that!

>
> Where do they *work* so we can avoid the place(s)




Maybe I should have added that the techs in question do this to their own
vehicles and not to customers



Did you know that most independent auto shops add 40 to 60% to the price of the
oil that they sell?



Did you know that Citgo is just (filtered) recycled oil!?



Did you know that most modern engine oil contain detergents that can handle
quite a bit of wear a tear?


>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point


>When would that be, at 100K ?


Every 12k or possibly once every year!



BBA


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Old January 12th 05, 07:59 AM
BBA
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> >Maybe I should have added that the techs in question do this to their own
> >vehicles and not to customers

>
> Amazing. Amazingly stupid.




Same to you pal!


> combustion byproducts will dilute the oil ( not good ) and turn the
> oil acidic, and acid and metal do not like eachother. Not to mention
> all the micro-metal debris along with carbon particles floating around
> that make it through the oil filter.




So what, big whoop - so what is it that your implying -- I answered some guys
question and you come up with your own contorted theory!


> >Did you know that most independent auto shops add 40 to 60% to the price of

the
> >oil that they sell?

>
> Never go to a shop to have your oil changed. They will give you the
> cheapest **** imaginable, to keep their profit margin as high as
> possible.




So you're possibly a chemist that works on his vehicle in his spare time!


> >Did you know that Citgo is just (filtered) recycled oil!?

>
> Are you aware that I wouldn't stop at a Citgo station if I was down to
> my last drop of fuel?




now I know, thanks for expounding


> >Did you know that most modern engine oil contain detergents that can handle
> >quite a bit of wear a tear?

>
> Yah. They take that dirt into solution, and bathe all your engine
> parts with that dirt. Bearings, cams, valves, the entire works gets
> washed over and over with MUD.




LOL - you have quite an imagination!


> >>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point

> >
> >>When would that be, at 100K ?

> >
> >Every 12k or possibly once every year!

>
> You change your oil once a year. I see.....




Are you out of your friggen mind - Did I ever say that << No, I never said
that!!!



BBA




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Old January 12th 05, 08:09 AM
Lawrence Glickman
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:59:05 -0800, "BBA"
> wrote:

>> >Maybe I should have added that the techs in question do this to their own
>> >vehicles and not to customers

>>
>> Amazing. Amazingly stupid.

>
>
>
>Same to you pal!
>
>
>> combustion byproducts will dilute the oil ( not good ) and turn the
>> oil acidic, and acid and metal do not like eachother. Not to mention
>> all the micro-metal debris along with carbon particles floating around
>> that make it through the oil filter.

>
>
>
>So what, big whoop - so what is it that your implying -- I answered some guys
>question and you come up with your own contorted theory!
>
>
>> >Did you know that most independent auto shops add 40 to 60% to the price of

>the
>> >oil that they sell?

>>
>> Never go to a shop to have your oil changed. They will give you the
>> cheapest **** imaginable, to keep their profit margin as high as
>> possible.

>
>
>
>So you're possibly a chemist that works on his vehicle in his spare time!
>
>
>> >Did you know that Citgo is just (filtered) recycled oil!?

>>
>> Are you aware that I wouldn't stop at a Citgo station if I was down to
>> my last drop of fuel?

>
>
>
>now I know, thanks for expounding
>
>
>> >Did you know that most modern engine oil contain detergents that can handle
>> >quite a bit of wear a tear?

>>
>> Yah. They take that dirt into solution, and bathe all your engine
>> parts with that dirt. Bearings, cams, valves, the entire works gets
>> washed over and over with MUD.

>
>
>
>LOL - you have quite an imagination!
>
>
>> >>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some point
>> >
>> >>When would that be, at 100K ?
>> >
>> >Every 12k or possibly once every year!

>>
>> You change your oil once a year. I see.....

>
>
>
>Are you out of your friggen mind - Did I ever say that << No, I never said
>that!!!


People like you have caused me to change my positron on "Pro-Choice"

People like you are THE reason I try to keep my car away from other's.

I haven't offered up any theories here, I've presented Facts. But to
you, everything is a theory because you're not old enough yet to own
your own screwdriver.

Please see Central Casting to apply for the job of Gomer Pile,
U.S.M.C.

And by the way, you ****ing stupid jerk jag-off, the upper and lower
radiator hoses will NOT be the same temperature in a properly function
radiator with a properly functioning fan. You said they would be.
The idea of the radiator is to dissipate the heat from the engine
coolant. If it is doing that, the lower hose will be cooler.

Again, you ****ing stupid asshole ****wit, this isn't a theory it is a
simple fact.

Now do the world a favor and drop dead. We the living would rather
have HIV and Mad Cow to deal with than your defective genetics.

Lg

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Old January 12th 05, 09:54 AM
BBA
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> >> >Maybe I should have added that the techs in question do this to their own
> >> >vehicles and not to customers
> >>
> >> Amazing. Amazingly stupid.

> >
> >
> >
> >Same to you pal!
> >
> >
> >> combustion byproducts will dilute the oil ( not good ) and turn the
> >> oil acidic, and acid and metal do not like eachother. Not to mention
> >> all the micro-metal debris along with carbon particles floating around
> >> that make it through the oil filter.

> >
> >
> >
> >So what, big whoop - so what is it that your implying -- I answered some guys
> >question and you come up with your own contorted theory!
> >
> >
> >> >Did you know that most independent auto shops add 40 to 60% to the price

of
> >the
> >> >oil that they sell?
> >>
> >> Never go to a shop to have your oil changed. They will give you the
> >> cheapest **** imaginable, to keep their profit margin as high as
> >> possible.

> >
> >
> >
> >So you're possibly a chemist that works on his vehicle in his spare time!
> >
> >
> >> >Did you know that Citgo is just (filtered) recycled oil!?
> >>
> >> Are you aware that I wouldn't stop at a Citgo station if I was down to
> >> my last drop of fuel?

> >
> >
> >
> >now I know, thanks for expounding
> >
> >
> >> >Did you know that most modern engine oil contain detergents that can

handle
> >> >quite a bit of wear a tear?
> >>
> >> Yah. They take that dirt into solution, and bathe all your engine
> >> parts with that dirt. Bearings, cams, valves, the entire works gets
> >> washed over and over with MUD.

> >
> >
> >
> >LOL - you have quite an imagination!
> >
> >
> >> >>Take heed that oil may break down and may also need replacing at some

point
> >> >
> >> >>When would that be, at 100K ?
> >> >
> >> >Every 12k or possibly once every year!
> >>
> >> You change your oil once a year. I see.....

> >
> >
> >
> >Are you out of your friggen mind - Did I ever say that << No, I never said
> >that!!!

>


> People like you have caused me to change my positron on "Pro-Choice"
>
> People like you are THE reason I try to keep my car away from other's.
>
> I haven't offered up any theories here, I've presented Facts. But to
> you, everything is a theory because you're not old enough yet to own
> your own screwdriver.


I can see that you have some deep seated personal issues - this is not the group
for this kind of nonsense

> Please see Central Casting to apply for the job of Gomer Pile,
> U.S.M.C.
> And by the way, you ****ing stupid jerk jag-off, the upper and lower


You know what making offensive remarks about other users on this or any other
Usenet - does not speak well of you plus someone may invoke retaliatory actions
which is
probably not something you are looking for.

> radiator hoses will NOT be the same temperature in a properly function


NO, NOT EXACTLY THE FRIGGEN SAME!!

I never said exactly the friggen same temp now did I?

if there both HOT the system is probably functioning properly!

> radiator with a properly functioning fan. You said they would be.


> The idea of the radiator is to dissipate the heat from the engine
> coolant. If it is doing that, the lower hose will be cooler.


The Idea here, is that if both hoses are HOT @ closed-loop then the system is
more than likely functioning properly!

>
> Again, you ****ing stupid asshole ****wit, this isn't a theory it is a



Here we go with the name calling , I can see that you certainly have a
rather large vocabulary - still in high school I presume!
you need to grow up a bit pal - learn to get along with your peers

> simple fact.


Facts - I see no facts -- all you do is talk ****!!!

> Now do the world a favor and drop dead. We the living would rather
> have HIV and Mad Cow to deal with than your defective genetics.


....<EG> FMD....



 




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