HEY ENVIRO-LEFTIES; How about a little challenge???

A Canadian firm has released a new catalytic converter for cars
that removes almost all pollutants from auto exhausts. It will take
a stream from a regular converter and remove a further 98% of the
pollutants. A regular converter costs $300 to the industry. This one
costs $1400. Do you think all the Hollywood phonies will be putting
these on their cars, to show what good enviro-citizens they are??
Not likely. You know why? Because you can't SEE it, the way you can
a Toyota Prius, so there's nothing for the average Hollywoodite to
parade around and preen about and boast about what great
environmentalists they are.

How about getting Kyoto to MANDATE putting it on all cars produced
world-wide? Not likely EITHER since the CHINESE and INDIANS (2.3
billion people) don't even have REGULAR (that have been on American
cars since 1976) catalytic converters.

My car cost about $40,000. If it means spending $2800 (cost of two
new converters) to outfit it with a device that renders it less
polluting than a cigarette lighter, I'm all for it. PROVIDED it is
mandated that ALL cars produced have it from NOW on.

The gauntlet is down, phony enviro-leftists, Hollywood trendies and
Asiatics; Pick it up, I DARE you! PROVE you aren't just anti-Western
CLOWNS, that the Kyoto Accord isn't just a FRAUD designed to shift
wealth and jobs east and that you DO care about air pollution.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:44:34 -0400, RichA > wrote:

>A Canadian firm has released a new catalytic converter for cars
>that removes almost all pollutants from auto exhausts. It will take
>a stream from a regular converter and remove a further 98% of the
>pollutants. A regular converter costs $300 to the industry. This one
>costs $1400. Do you think all the Hollywood phonies will be putting
>these on their cars, to show what good enviro-citizens they are??
>Not likely. You know why? Because you can't SEE it, the way you can
>a Toyota Prius, so there's nothing for the average Hollywoodite to
>parade around and preen about and boast about what great
>environmentalists they are.
>
>How about getting Kyoto to MANDATE putting it on all cars produced
>world-wide? Not likely EITHER since the CHINESE and INDIANS (2.3
>billion people) don't even have REGULAR (that have been on American
>cars since 1976) catalytic converters.
>
>My car cost about $40,000. If it means spending $2800 (cost of two
>new converters) to outfit it with a device that renders it less
>polluting than a cigarette lighter, I'm all for it. PROVIDED it is
>mandated that ALL cars produced have it from NOW on.
>
>The gauntlet is down, phony enviro-leftists, Hollywood trendies and
>Asiatics; Pick it up, I DARE you! PROVE you aren't just anti-Western
>CLOWNS, that the Kyoto Accord isn't just a FRAUD designed to shift
>wealth and jobs east and that you DO care about air pollution.

pssssssssst rich
all the converters in the world will make the exhaust clean


look at the by product of the converter CO2
whats responable for globel warming

who just fell for the converter sales pitch
great ya just added to globel warming

FOCTARD

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RichA wrote:

> A Canadian firm has released a new catalytic converter for cars
> that removes almost all pollutants from auto exhausts. It will take
> a stream from a regular converter and remove a further 98% of the
> pollutants. A regular converter costs $300 to the industry. This one
> costs $1400. Do you think all the Hollywood phonies will be putting
> these on their cars, to show what good enviro-citizens they are??
> Not likely. You know why? Because you can't SEE it, the way you can
> a Toyota Prius, so there's nothing for the average Hollywoodite to
> parade around and preen about and boast about what great
> environmentalists they are.
>
> How about getting Kyoto to MANDATE putting it on all cars produced
> world-wide? Not likely EITHER since the CHINESE and INDIANS (2.3
> billion people) don't even have REGULAR (that have been on American
> cars since 1976) catalytic converters.
>
> My car cost about $40,000. If it means spending $2800 (cost of two
> new converters) to outfit it with a device that renders it less
> polluting than a cigarette lighter, I'm all for it. PROVIDED it is
> mandated that ALL cars produced have it from NOW on.
>
> The gauntlet is down, phony enviro-leftists, Hollywood trendies and
> Asiatics; Pick it up, I DARE you! PROVE you aren't just anti-Western
> CLOWNS, that the Kyoto Accord isn't just a FRAUD designed to shift
> wealth and jobs east and that you DO care about air pollution.
>

You might want to do a little research about what a catalytic converter
does and doesn't remove from combustion exhaust. Here's a hint:
perfect, clean combustion results in CO2 and H2O. Kyoto, as flawed as
it is, is about reducing CO2 emissions.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:55:36 -0400, pawn > wrote:

>
>You might want to do a little research about what a catalytic converter
>does and doesn't remove from combustion exhaust. Here's a hint:
>perfect, clean combustion results in CO2 and H2O. Kyoto, as flawed as
>it is, is about reducing CO2 emissions.
>
That may be, but Kyoto exempts some of the worst polluting nations
because they fall into the developing nation category, while
industrialized nations, especially the US is expected to cut
pollutants enough to cover for the developing nations like China,
India, etc. Screw that.
Spike
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Inside every golden harlot beats a heart.

A penny saved... is a waste.

It's not the principle...
it's how much interest you can get.

Tis a wise man who knows on which side
his broad is bettered.

"Damn the icebergs! Full speed ahead! We're gonna
break that record on this run!" said the captain
of the Titanic

He who is flogged by fate, and laughs the louder...
is a masochist!

If you can keep your head
while all about are losing theirs...
you're a frigid chick

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I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it."
-JFK Inaugural Speech

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turning one's back on it; when honor was revered, and
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that was America will again rise from the ashes of
those who would rewrite it's history, reinterpret it's
founding principles, and relish in dividing it's people
rather than in uniting them.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:44:34 -0400, RichA > wrote:

Here's a challenge. Stop being a dumbass.


>A Canadian firm has released a new catalytic converter for cars
>that removes almost all pollutants from auto exhausts. It will take
>a stream from a regular converter and remove a further 98% of the
>pollutants. A regular converter costs $300 to the industry. This one
>costs $1400. Do you think all the Hollywood phonies will be putting
>these on their cars, to show what good enviro-citizens they are??
>Not likely. You know why? Because you can't SEE it, the way you can
>a Toyota Prius, so there's nothing for the average Hollywoodite to
>parade around and preen about and boast about what great
>environmentalists they are.
>
>How about getting Kyoto to MANDATE putting it on all cars produced
>world-wide? Not likely EITHER since the CHINESE and INDIANS (2.3
>billion people) don't even have REGULAR (that have been on American
>cars since 1976) catalytic converters.
>
>My car cost about $40,000. If it means spending $2800 (cost of two
>new converters) to outfit it with a device that renders it less
>polluting than a cigarette lighter, I'm all for it. PROVIDED it is
>mandated that ALL cars produced have it from NOW on.
>
>The gauntlet is down, phony enviro-leftists, Hollywood trendies and
>Asiatics; Pick it up, I DARE you! PROVE you aren't just anti-Western
>CLOWNS, that the Kyoto Accord isn't just a FRAUD designed to shift
>wealth and jobs east and that you DO care about air pollution.

Spike wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:55:36 -0400, pawn > wrote:
>
>
>>You might want to do a little research about what a catalytic converter
>>does and doesn't remove from combustion exhaust. Here's a hint:
>>perfect, clean combustion results in CO2 and H2O. Kyoto, as flawed as
>>it is, is about reducing CO2 emissions.
>>
>
> That may be, but Kyoto exempts some of the worst polluting nations
> because they fall into the developing nation category, while
> industrialized nations, especially the US is expected to cut
> pollutants enough to cover for the developing nations like China,
> India, etc. Screw that.

Just to be clear, I believe Kyoto to be a laughable attempt at
international wealth redistribution, which was fraudulently sold to the
weak minded and weak kneed, using junk science recklessly endorsed by a
"scientific consensus" (not one entity in the entire world verified
Mann's "hockey stick" theory) by tree hugging, tie-dye beret wearing
socialists, more concerned with black and white ideology than facts,
sense or reality. But a catalytic converter, of any type, won't help
achieve Kyoto greenhouse gas emission reduction goals.

There, now I'm clear.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:14:55 -0700, Spike > wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:55:36 -0400, pawn > wrote:
>
>>
>>You might want to do a little research about what a catalytic converter
>>does and doesn't remove from combustion exhaust. Here's a hint:
>>perfect, clean combustion results in CO2 and H2O. Kyoto, as flawed as
>>it is, is about reducing CO2 emissions.
>>
flawed?/
kyoto was designed to
targets smog you FOCTARD
>That may be, but Kyoto exempts some of the worst polluting nations
>because they fall into the developing nation category, while
>industrialized nations, especially the US is expected to cut
>pollutants enough to cover for the developing nations like China,
>India, etc. Screw that.

psssssst spike most of the industries in india are owned by the USA
and england
typical yankee
screw that
LMFAO

pawn wrote:
>
> Just to be clear, I believe Kyoto to be a laughable attempt at
> international wealth redistribution, which was fraudulently sold to the
> weak minded and weak kneed, using junk science recklessly endorsed by a
> "scientific consensus" (not one entity in the entire world verified
> Mann's "hockey stick" theory) by tree hugging, tie-dye beret wearing
> socialists, more concerned with black and white ideology than facts,
> sense or reality. But a catalytic converter, of any type, won't help
> achieve Kyoto greenhouse gas emission reduction goals.
>
> There, now I'm clear.

Here, here! I'm what some might call an enviro-lefty, but the Kyoto
Protocol sucked the hind teat. Any treaty that lets the Chinese, for
example, go about their business as usual because they're a "developing
country" is absurd.

However, I didn't agree with the high-handed way the Bush Administration
just walked away from the negotiating table. I think they're in denial
about the scientific evidence of the seriousness of the problem, which
is overwhelming.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote:
>
> I think they're in denial
> about the scientific evidence of the seriousness of the problem, which
> is overwhelming.

Please elaborate. Seriousness of what problem? Global warming (which
could be man made, but has a much more established natural cyclical
trend) is a given, so please be creative, or ar least relevant.

It used to be global cooling and threats of a new ice age, and now
it's global warming and rising seas. There are scare stories of what
will happen when the tropical forests are gone, while oceanographers
claim the sea produces more breathable atmosphere than the rain
forests. Forestry officials claim there are more trees in the US today
than there were 100 or even 200 years ago (National Geographic
agrees). Both cause by pollution by humans, yet three volcanic
eruptions eclipses what man produces. They say the Arctic Ocean ice is
melting faster, and glaciers are receding, and at the same time ice
layers are increasing faster in the Antarctic. So, even the scientists
can't get it right. And measurements have not been recorded long
enough to KNOW if this is cyclic or something new. As for Kyoto and
the walking out, what else to do when the cards are already stacked
against you? Sit there and cave in? Sit there and be bored with people
whose minds are already decided? Or walk out? That's when they get the
message that you're serious about not agreeing with what they propose.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:36:06 -0400, pawn > wrote:

>rw wrote:
>>
>> I think they're in denial
>> about the scientific evidence of the seriousness of the problem, which
>> is overwhelming.
>
>Please elaborate. Seriousness of what problem? Global warming (which
>could be man made, but has a much more established natural cyclical
>trend) is a given, so please be creative, or ar least relevant.

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce
Radial 225/50ZR16 KDWS skins

"When the time comes to lay down my life for my country,
I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it."
-JFK Inaugural Speech