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Old February 27th 05, 07:58 PM
John Ahnen
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You may recall that we got a '96 XLT for our daughter about a month ago. It
has about 190K miles, but is in great shape and was well maintained by the
original owner.

Last week, we drove it for about 20 minutes - no problem, ran great. After
it had been parked and shut off for about an hour, I went to start it, it
would crank (the engine would turn over) but it would not catch and run.
While cranking it, the engine seemed to move more than normal, and sounded
"funny". I initially thought the timing belt/chain had broken and went to
get another vehicle.

When I returned after 30-40 minutes, it started just fine. Anyone with
similar experiences? Any ideas of what to check? I did not notice if there
was any particular combination of warning lights on when I was trying to
start it.

Thanks, John



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Old February 28th 05, 02:17 AM
Dan Gillespie
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"John Ahnen" > wrote in message
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> Last week, we drove it for about 20 minutes - no problem, ran great.

After
> it had been parked and shut off for about an hour, I went to start it, it
> would crank (the engine would turn over) but it would not catch and run.


I've had this problem occasionally. What works for me is taking out the
relay for the fuel pump and tapping it on its side a couple times, then
reinserting it. Always starts after that. Also, when you start, turn the
key to "on" for two or three seconds before turning it all the way to start.

Dan


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Old March 1st 05, 12:59 AM
Richard
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Had this on our 97 EB SOHV V6. Infuriatingly, the car would crank fine, but
after the car had been stopped for a few minutes, esp on hot days, it just
wouldn't catch and fire. Leaving it to cool off for an hour or so and it
would fire up immediately. Bit of diagnosis (well, what else can you do when
you're stranded in the middle of nowhere!) showed no spark at the plugs- so
a fuel delivery issue was discounted. Long story somewhat shorter, it turned
out to be the crank sensor (front of crank, toothed pulley, black plastic
sensor butting up against pulley)- obviously a heat related malfunction of
hall-effect gubbins. $14 from local autoparts place and no trouble in 18
months.

Please let us know how you get on.

Richard.

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"John Ahnen" > wrote in message
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> You may recall that we got a '96 XLT for our daughter about a month ago.
> It
> has about 190K miles, but is in great shape and was well maintained by the
> original owner.
>
> Last week, we drove it for about 20 minutes - no problem, ran great.
> After
> it had been parked and shut off for about an hour, I went to start it, it
> would crank (the engine would turn over) but it would not catch and run.
> While cranking it, the engine seemed to move more than normal, and sounded
> "funny". I initially thought the timing belt/chain had broken and went to
> get another vehicle.
>
> When I returned after 30-40 minutes, it started just fine. Anyone with
> similar experiences? Any ideas of what to check? I did not notice if
> there
> was any particular combination of warning lights on when I was trying to
> start it.
>
> Thanks, John
>
>
>



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Old March 4th 05, 01:29 AM
John Ahnen
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Thanks for the suggestions. I've located the fuel pump relay, and it has
the same numbers as the other two relays near it. Are they interchangeable?



 




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